is that why 4/4 (100%) Finals wining ratio is so Godly to them? lol
No chance in Walton plays a good 20 min. He averaged 17 last year behind Ariza. His minutes won't be increasing behind Ron and Morrison being healthy in his contract year. And Morrison will play minutes at least in the first half of the season. If only for the Lakers to showcase him and his expiring contract before the trade deadline.
Agreed Walton won't get 20+ but not because of Morrison. The expring K sells itself. Morrison only gets PT if Sasha continues to brick.
lol at bonner references. hes a nice player but who would sit for him if he was on the lakers. pau bynum and odom have pretty much taken up the 96 minutes at the 4 and the 5. if need be, artest would get some minutes at the 4.
sasha had a ty year last year. im sure he will rebound to shoot better this year. but the beauty of this laker roster is they dont need to depend on him. if he struggles again, you can slide shannon brown at the 2, or play artest at the 2 and put odom at the 3 to go big.
it doesnt have to be kobe 24/7 anymore as last year proved. he can let others get in a groove and conserve energy until the last 6 minutes and turn it up. even at 31, hes the best closer in the game.
Mitch was hinting at Morrison seeing minutes during the season around the time Summer league was going on.
If Vlad and Brian Cook saw decent minutes under Phil so will Morrison if he can hit the 3 ball. Luke will have his annual minor injury anyway. Either way Morrison will be getting court time.
Without Odom/Shannon Brown, I agree it would be a sorry bench. Yes I did say Shannon Brown. I am not saying he is a star or anything like that, but he fits with LA nicely, and I don't see how he won't be a contributing role player for LA for this upcoming season. IMO this is LA's future starting pg.
A nice little run in the playoffs will work wonders for your image. He played well, but clearly Farmar has more talent.
Brown provides more than Farmar does. He is the big pg Phil likes. He is athletic and strong. He can hit the 3 and slash to the basket. Farmar may have more talent, but he doesn't fit in with LA while Brown does.
Disagree, but we will see. If Farmar does not show, then sure. But when Farmar plays his best and Brown does as well, Farmar is better imo.
Boston guy is right. Brown also played well longer than just the playoffs. That's just when people began to notice him because they were watching more. He played well since we traded for him and laker fans were calling for him to play over Farmar for a long time before the playoffs. His defense is soooo much better than Farmars and Farmars decision making and shot selection is always suspect.
Farmar had a very off year. His highest PER of 15.29 was better than Brown's career high last year of 12.95. It is amazing how fast 1 bad year will turn people against a player.
I think Brown is a nice player, but as far as being a legit PG, I think Farmar has more upside. We will see who was more fluky, Farmar or Brown.
Before last year Brown was posting very pedestrian PER of 7.62 and 6.57 and Farmar was posting 10.79 and 9.93 was his worst and that was last year. Even his worst year, Farmar was higher than Brown by quite a bit in Brown's standard years.
I think Farmar will bounce back and not just because Hollinger said it. He just has more of a history that proves it.
It being a contract year for Farmar will also play a vital role into this season.
Kobe, Lamar and Artest are all better defenders for sure, so how can you say he is the 3rd best? Bynum (when trying), Pau and Sasha are all arguable as well.
What does his struggles with the Bobcats and Cavs have to do with anything? It was him playing.
If you compare Farmar's best year with Brown's, Farmar exceeds Brown.
I think Brown played very well last year and brought good energy. I just think that Farmar is a better player overall.
Even Farmar's worst year was better than Brown's normal years before he got to the Lakers and Farmar's best year was much better than Brown's best year with the Lakers.
When a player has an off year, most people dismiss him too quickly. Could Brown take over? Sure. But I do not think he is better than Farmar and it would be all Farmar's fault if Brown pushes him out of the rotation.
Perfect summary of SB
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...lay.jsp?id=739In the right system, Shannon Brown can look like a fine big point guard. Brown is ideally a shooting guard, but he's nearer to a point guard's height, and his jumpshot is pretty broken. He is an awfully long way from being a 'true' point guard, and his ball handling ability can be shaky. His scoring ability is based around his drives to the hoop, which, while sometimes effective, can get a bit wild at times. Brown is a very good athlete, which helps both his finishing and his perimeter defense (where he can stay in front of most players), but he is not exactly refined in his skills. Nevertheless, in the right situation, he can do a lot of good for your team, and you can love him like a newborn puppy.
Unfortunately, such a system is damn hard to find. You need to find a system that means the point guard doesn't have to shoot too many jumpshots, or run a huge amount of set offense. You need to find a system whereby the point guard's job is to cut without the ball, bring it over halfcourt sometimes, get out in transition, finish near the hoop, hit open shots and play good systematic defense. You need a system where the point guard's major offensive responsibilties (ball handling, passing, shooting) are usurped in favour of deference to superstars, where he can hide his flaws and play solely to his strengths, buoyed by the chance to play with superstars can that mask his deficiencies.
Long story short, you need a Kobe Bryant-led triangle offense to make Shannon Brown look good.
- 14th June, 2009.
Very nice summary and was kind of what I was getting at. Brown was a product of the system (given the system seems to suit him well). Thing is, even in one of the few systems Brown can play in, Farmar's best in that system was much better than Brown's.
Brown can be effective, but Farmar is a better player.
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So staying on the bench topic, which 6th man player, is more important to their team?
Odom for the Lakers or Ginobili for the spurs?
I get that there are a lot of laker fans who prefer Odom on the floor than Bynum, but look at
how much it affected the spurs when they lost Ginobili this past season.
It was basically the same roster from 2007-2008 team and back then they got to the WCF with him, But without him
they got ousted in the first round.
Remember, this isn't about who is the more talented player, it's a matter of who is more vital to their respected team.
Ginobili. Without him the Spurs have no shot. Without LO, the Lakers would still be the favorites although the gap would be closed.
Alot of people agree that the Shannon Brown dunk on Anderson was the turn around point for the Lakers in the playoffs.
That seriously was, the Lakers were looking screwed at that point then after that they went on to dominate that fourth quarter, then game six, then game one of the finals.
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