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    Quit setting people up tlong. I see right through it.

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    Quit setting people up tlong. I see right through it.

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    Thank you. It's good to hear he'll be fine. I would hate to see the same thing that happened to Beno happen to Ian. Beno would have been a good player for us but he was always hurt in training camp when Pop looks at who will be in his rotation.


    Beno could not bring the ball up the court, he slacked and he was injury prone...but what really got him run was when he badmouthed the Spurs.


    Good riddance.

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    hopefully he'll become healthy and at least stay that way till training camp

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    I was expecting a lot about this kid...
    I saw him in FNT at the Euro man, he's raw really raw he doen't have hope in NBA.

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    You don't "dump" a player like Mahinmi. Thats just foolish. Hes making small-time money (a little over a million a year) and is just as good (probably much better actually) than the vast majority of any prospects we could hope to replace him with. You don't dump a player with potential and a small paycheck. We dumped Jackie Butler a few years ago, but we had already assessed his potential to be minimal and his multi-year contract to be too much. Not the same situation as Mahinmi.

    Now, trading Mahinmi for more talent would be something to consider - and anybody that says otherwise is just being overly protective of their loves or pet projects. Now, I don't know that the Spurs are out looking for anything in particular, but if they were and that team was interested in Ian I think they'd have no problem parting way for the right price. But you don't "DUMP" a player like him. Thats just asinine.

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    You don't "dump" a player like Mahinmi. Thats just foolish. Hes making small-time money (a little over a million a year) and is just as good (probably much better actually) than the vast majority of any prospects we could hope to replace him with. You don't dump a player with potential and a small paycheck. We dumped Jackie Butler a few years ago, but we had already assessed his potential to be minimal and his multi-year contract to be too much. Not the same situation as Mahinmi.

    Now, trading Mahinmi for more talent would be something to consider - and anybody that says otherwise is just being overly protective of their loves or pet projects. Now, I don't know that the Spurs are out looking for anything in particular, but if they were and that team was interested in Ian I think they'd have no problem parting way for the right price. But you don't "DUMP" a player like him. Thats just asinine.
    I really understand what you mean and I always thought in your way and considered foolish posters who wanted to trow Ian away.
    But I saw him playing against a mediocre team at Euro basket maybe it was a very little playing time but honestly the first thing that came in my mind was: "All this thing for that?".
    Then I understand FNT coach who didn't want to keep him in the team.
    I mean it just isn't a "look" you get from a player with potential and with all those attention.
    Then maybe I should rectificate: He is clearly really far from being NBA ready right now. And if he wants to show his "potential" he needs to get a Body first, and work very very very hard still. Wich is or was difficult with his injuries.

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    No, Beno was a hard worker, Pop was just really hard on him. Like too hard on him. He was not that inury prone except for training camp and i don't remeber hearing him bad mouth the Spurs.
    Someone said this before, and I even asked what was it that Beno said exactly, but no one could give me an answer.

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    No, Beno was a hard worker, Pop was just really hard on him. Like too hard on him. He was not that inury prone except for training camp and i don't remeber hearing him bad mouth the Spurs.

    He was a hardworker?

    His stomach showed otherwise.

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    Someone said this before, and I even asked what was it that Beno said exactly, but no one could give me an answer.
    he said, "Pop really loves Hearty Gallo and serves it all the time at his house."

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    I had sources close to Beno tell me that he lifted, ran and worked on his game every day the offseason before the Spurs traded him. He would have impressed the Spurs had he not been hurt coming into training camp. If I am not mistaken he had three or four 30 points and 10 assists game the first half season in the NBA. That is hard for any player to do. Even if he only averaged 10 and 5 every other night there are few point guards that have the ability to score and pass like that. Sure it won't happen every night, but Beno has a better chance to do that than Mario Chalmers at this point.

    I'm sorry but the guy was always noticeably out of shape and his inability to handle a full court press was disgusting.

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    No, Beno was a hard worker, Pop was just really hard on him. Like too hard on him.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...drih+interview

    Beno gets a finger injury and says he can't run because of it...

    i don't remeber hearing him bad mouth the Spurs.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...drih+interview

    Beno states that discrimination is the reason he's not getting any playing time...

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    Lindsey Hunter = Beno's worst nightmare.

    That bad

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    doesnt beno have 2 rings?

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    doesnt beno have 2 rings?
    Jack Haley has 3.

    Big ing whoop.

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    The first question was an example of Pop being hard on Beno. The second question was no discrimination from Pop, but from the NBA in general. I kind of agree too. The american media is hyped about players in college that if Beno Udrih is selected ahead of hot shot guard from the NCAA then even we say something about it. How many Spurs fans were happy when the Spurs drafted Tony Parker over college players? When we drafted Goron Dragic people were pissed. Darko gets drafted second overall to the Pistons, Larry Brown doesn't play a rookie many minutes in a rotation that has Ben Wallace and Sheed starting and people say bad things about Darko. It really isn't Darko's fault he was drafted onto a good team.

    Back in 2007 I wouldn't say there was discrimination against players from overseas, but they were watched a lot closer and if they made a mistake it was their ass. I remember ESPN being all over players like Rasho.
    1) Beno gave the 'discrimination' statement as a response to a question why he specifically was benched, which implies he meant that statement as much, if not more, about the Spurs than it was the NBA. You can't insist that that statement was meant strictly in general terms given the context of the question.

    2) Back in 2006-2007, there were several interviews with Beno and the Spurs coaching staff that stated the following points:

    a) After Beno was drafted, it took him 2 years to realize that he needed to keep working on his game.
    b) When the Spurs told him to work on his shot in 2006, he basically said "I've never had to work on my shot, I don't know why I have to start now".
    c) The Spurs coaching staff have said that they tried several tactics to keep Beno motivated, from yelling, to leaving him on his own. But according to them, they mostly babied him - and that Parker got far more abuse from Pop than Beno did.

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    Looks like he's healthy again.

    http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid_toT,ovGDH2EaLKL67XnPo2.gameID_6372-52-A-1.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2009.roundI D_6328.teamID_.html#{AC75451A-1EF2-4B97-B1F2-CBFD29002FFF}

    6 points (50% shooting) in 19 minutes of play.

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    Looks like he's healthy again.

    http://www.eurobasket2009.org/en/cid_toT,ovGDH2EaLKL67XnPo2.gameID_6372-52-A-1.compID_qMRZdYCZI6EoANOrUf9le2.season_2009.roundI D_6328.teamID_.html#{AC75451A-1EF2-4B97-B1F2-CBFD29002FFF}

    6 points (50% shooting) in 19 minutes of play.
    I can't wait to see him in preseason !!!!


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