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The pressure of a decent give & take discussion get to ya, huh, Clev?
Culburn - you really are on something. Crack maybe?
LA, is one team, that has in their mentality to always be based on the big man. That's why they got Bynum nor wouldn't give him up even though they could have gotten others for him.
LA was willing to deal Kobe for dealing Bynum. They were willing to let LO walk. No way they are dealing Bynum.
The pressure of a decent give & take discussion get to ya, huh, Clev?
No pressure, but some of your takes defy reason.
I gotta agree with cleva on this one. The Lakers have always been built around the big man. Bynum has the chance to be their next great center and he's only 21. No way in would they deal him at this point.
Just a hunch based partly on Jackson's proclivity that once one is banished to his doghouse it's damn near impossible to emerge. I'm not sure Bynum isn't in there already. Jabbar has moved away from him is another red flaggish kneel.
Is Jabbar no longer an assistant coach?
And idk why you think Bynum and Jackson are on such bad terms. Phil IMO is still learning what buttons to push with Bynum to get his defensive intensity up during games. Based on the stuff I read in his book (great book if you haven't read it cubby) and based on what I saw in the finals, Bynum's touches in the 1st quarter are going to increase a lot this year, and that could lead to a breakout from him.
And 21 is kinda right that the reward outweighs the risk of getting Bynum touches. The Lakers will be nearly impossible to beat if Bynum steps up to the plate. God help the other 29 teams if he does.
Jabbar moved away from Bynum? Where do you come up with this stuff?
We saw Bynum back in the starting lineup in the playoffs. If he was truly in the doghouse no way Phil lets him start again.
As for Jackson, his future is uncertain as well. But he knows he won every ring thanks to having a defensive big man who controlled the paint. Bynum did that for LA in the playoffs, even with the fouls.
Bynum will improve, considering how young he is and the fact the he has a history of working hard in the summer.
Odom will continue to age and now his contract is actually movable. If anyone gets dealt or loses minutes it in the near future it will be Lamar, not Bynum.
And Cul, your idea that Bynum desperately seeks validation and recognition would take care of itself assuming Bynum can stay healthy. If he plays like he did before he was hurt last year he will receive more than enough praise and adulation from the media/fans. It's a win/win.
If Bynum plays for another team it will be in 3 years when his contract is up. No point in worrying about that now. Championships to win.
Christ, I feel like Daniel Larusso by the chain link fence and you Cobra Kai f'ers dressed in yer skeleton tights kickin' my ass.
F'k, I knew the jig was up when tlong sided ya's.
Where the is that white flag I used back in the Summer of '08 in MA.?
Bynum will beast. I wish he was a Spur.
So, DPG, you would trade Duncan to the Lakers for Bynum? Just twixt you & me, money qualifiers waived. I'll even give you this year with Duncan, then after this year the trade goes down no matter what happens in the interim. You'd do it?
No. I would not trade Duncan for Bynum. I would never want to trade Duncan (for respect or franchise reasons). If it came down to a basketball decision, the only players worth trading Duncan for imo are Dwight and Lebron. Bynum could be excellent, but not enough potential to trade Duncan for.
If the Spurs were offered Lebron or Dwight for Duncan, I don't know if they would do it for loyalty reasons, but that is what it would take from a talent standpoint and no one would do that.
Good stuff, DPG. Thank you for seriously entertaining my presentation.
This thread is turning into a lakerfan anal orgy, No Thanks!
If he gets injured again, no way he's going to have any trade value with that enormous contract. He's going to be a Laker for a while.
Hey, bum, what kind of odds do you think exists for us jettisoning Bynum now (getting back $12 million in wampum) and NOT living to legtimately regret it (he blows up)?
Trading Bynum now would be ridiculously stupid. His injuries the last two years ensure LA will never get anything approaching equal talent in trade. He's way too talented to just salary dump. I think the odds are pretty good he'll become a top-tier center in this league, so yeah, Kupchack would most likely be kicking himself (down to the unemployment line no less) if he unloaded him.
Food for thought.
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