bonner came in at 6' 8.5" barefoot, and 6' 10" in shoes at the predraft camp.
did i mention anything about bonner not deserving to be on the team? you also lack reading comprehension. look at the post i was responding to. my response looks pretty relevant to me.
i believe my original response said a mason, ginobili, finley, jefferson, and duncan lineup would be better than having bonner in the game during this time.
I guess we all agree that we never ever want to see Bonner play a single PO minute for the Spurs again. right?
that's where the dilemma starts.
in this case he must not be higher than #9 or #10 in the regular season rotation. but if you don't want that he is the next big in the rotation in case an injury happens to one of the top 3 bigs, you need another guy (who you trust more) and IMO this player should already have got some quality minutes in the regular season. so this guy also needs to be ahead of Bonner in the RS rotation, which pushes Bonner to #11 or #12, playing only garbage minutes.
but don't we want this garbage minutes taken by guys, who need it for their development (namely Ian and Haislip) and who might have a future with the team that Bonner doesn't have?
hope I could make my point somehow comprehensible. I agree that there will be situations and match ups in the regular season, when Bonner in fact is useful. but IMO he just doesn't fit in the bigger picture and I don't see the niche for him, WITHOUT hamper the development of the team.
best case will be, Bonner gets some regular minutes in November and December, to keep the minutes of Tim and Dice low and while guys like Blair, Haislip and Ian adjust to the team (and the NBA). in January he should lose most of his minutes to the mentioned guys and then get traded at deadline. either will one of the other bigs have developed and impressed enough, that there isn't a need to boost the frontline (then a quality back up wing might be the target), or they need to package for a big, who is good enough to take the #3 spot in the PO.
I think he's been treated unfairly.
OK, it's true that he's not a starting caliber big for a championship team. It's true he can't really handle pressure and that he disappointed in his first playoffs with Spurs. No one can deny that.
However, the premise that some guy who has never done anything in the NBA, like Haislip, Mahinmi and even Blair, will jump straight into the action and be superior to a NBA veteran, is something I don't find realistic. We know what Bonner can do and we know what he can't do but we know nothing about these younger guys, they're like blank sheets , there are no bad memories of failiure that we remember, but it doesn't really make them better. By all means, give them a chance to develop and eventually become good and claim minutes, but disregarding a player who has, whithout a doubt, proven to be a NBA player, is unfair. If we take Bonner's career as a benchmark, who thinks Mahinmi, Haislip, Hairston or Williams will have a better one? I think the odds are against these young guys.
Bonner is limited, but it's not his fault he was forced in the situation he was against the Mavs. Used in his proper role, as the 3rd/4th big, he'll provide quality minutes for any NBA team.
About the only way Bonner is treated unfairly is forcing him into playing more than 10-12 minutes per game. His knowledge of the Spurs system and his tenure with the team automatically puts him ahead of the newcomers - for now.
However having a veteran, 3-pt shooting big, who is a regular season wonder, yet fails to deliver during playoff time isn't a luxury.
I fully expect either Ian, Blair and even Haislip to eat into his minutes - eventually. In fact, I'd be disappointed if they didn't.
Yeah so good the Kings drafted and traded for point guards this summer and would salary dump him in a second if any team were dumb enough to eat his contract.
Good one. The Kings drafted and traded for point guards and are openly shopping Beno because timvp is angry. Well done.
Beno a good player for the Kings?
And you have the audacity to tell people they don't watch much basketball? Unbelievable!
Sounds like someone needs a tissue.
oh, this is a surprise! especially for all Kings fans. they will ask when he turned into this "very good player". this morning ?
Yes Hill>Beno, especially considring their contracts. Hill will spend the next couple of seasons being the back up of an all star PG on a championship caliber team, whereas Beno will be the back up of a rookie and constantly on the trading block.
Beno was traded away because the Spurs wanted to get under the lux tax and they did, but that might be a bit too deep for you.
George Hill has the tools and mindset to become a very good pro and contribute to a championship, while Beno will always be remembered being scared less by a 50 year old Lindsay Hunter and missing training camps because of a broken nail or something. So, yea, rightfully the Spurs dumped the dead weight and drafted a guy with the better tools to be their back up PG, nothing wrong with that.
Moreover, this is a bit of a reality check - the fact that you disagree with timvp, mountainballer and me clearly shows everything's right in the world, I'd be concerned for my sanity if you agreed with me.
Nope, because of your posting history.
Bonner of the bench for 10 minutes a night sounds good to me.
this must be the KBP sydrome.
what kind of challenge do you want?
you really need an argument, why Beno is not "a very good player" as you tell us?
your claims are just absurd.
btw. challenge......
you try to use stats to back up your points. well....
a A/TO ratio of 2.1 is NOT good for a PG. to tell you the awful truth, it's not even average.
6.0 APG per 40 minutes is NOT good for a PG. it's average at best.
a 3pt shooting of 31% is NOT good.
1.15 PPS is NOT good. 0.87 PPP is NOT good. it's ugly.
2.6 FTs per 40 minutes is NOT good.
11 PPG for a starting PG is NOT good, especially not when considering that he is neither an above average playmaker, nor does he defend at all.
sorry, but there isn't a single stat that would indicate that Beno is at least an average player. so, how to discuss with someone who claims this is a "very good player"? how do you challenge total nonsense?
Matt is working out with the first team right now. They are expecting 15-20 minutes from him. The Spurs have already talked to his agent about a new contract. Not saying they wouldn't trade him but right now doesn't appear to be a possibility. Pop loves Matt.
I have a feeling that this little tidbit of inside info will provoke quite a reaction.
What Olivier Pheulpin (French journalist who follows Spurs in SA) writes in today newspaper is that Bonner will start with Duncan, McDyess will be the first big from the bench and Mahinmi/Blair will fight for the rest of the minutes.
However, I guess nothing is set in stone and there is a whole training camp to change that.
It's good that Bonner is starting to start the season. That way it can be understood early on that he has no business being the starter.
DAMN
That would be bad
I'm fine with Bonner off the bench, but I don't want to see him starting.
Bonner starting
Fuuuuuuccckkkk
Relax people. Bonner's not going to start.
Pop would definitely give Boner plenty of PT. He obviously sees some sort of hidden talent in these weak links and will continue to give them big minutes until it's exposed (whenever that may be)...........remember Danny Ferry???????
i could see bonner starting at the first of the season..and he will be playing alot with the spurs resting duncan and mcdyess ....
pop loves how he spreads the floor...so i think he will play alot more than people think...especially at first..
at Spurstrodamus carrying the banner for a player who is currently ing about his team. Misery loves company, I guess.
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