Orlando could make that trade for KG sending out Howard, Francis, and scraps and still be set in the East.
They could trot out:
PG Nelson
SG Stevenson (dude has been ballin' given the PT)
SF Hill
PF Garnett
C Who cares
And be legit contenders for the EC championship.
It's going to be all downhill for Nash after this season...and Amare will never be in KG's league in terms of all around game...Amare is awesome but he is also very one dimensional and he's literally about half the rebounder Garnett is IMO, I don't think he ever will be the rebounder Garnett is...Garnett is the best in the league at it, better than Duncan and Shaq. Amare owes a lot of his numbers this season to Nash...
I'm not saying that either of those players is better than KG. But we're talking about two probably all-nba players. And we simply don't know what will happen with Nash. He'll slow down eventually, but when? People said the same thing last offseason, and he's probably had his best season ever. People said the same thing about Payton for years, but he got the job done in Seattle longer than people thought he would.
Nash uses his speed and energy to excel, but he's also got great court vision and he can shoot the ball. Some guy named Stockton played great basketball for a very long time because he had those attributed. Nash will lose some effectiveness when he loses a step, but it won't be drastic. He's not like Parker. His biggest skills won't deteriorate with time.
Amare isn't going to be as good as KG. But a team built around Amare and Nash and Marion figures to contend for the next three years. I'm not convinced that Phoenix would want to mess with that. It has worked great for them this season. They will finish with the best record in the league. They have a chance to go deep into the playoffs. They have zero incentive to screw with that right now.
If things change there, sure. But not right now. And not this summer.
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C Who cares
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C Cato
Hedo
Christie
MLE
Pups losing to Seattle when they still had a chance is no surprise to anyone who's been watching them this year.
They spent most of the year vacillating between being disinterested and being confused, with the occasional spurt of playing hard out of desparation.
It seems to me they got two options: a) back up the truck (trade KG), or dump contracts (Spree, of course, maybe they can get a taker for Cassell) adn go after the FAs (Allen, who else is out there?).
KG is not going anywhere. He's the reggie miller of the west. Its absoluty idiotic to assume KG is going to demand a trade bc the team blew up. They guy took a pay cut for the team. His best friend and his wife are from here. The guy is a god locally. Some of you are looking like Stephan A Smith with the rumors flying out so fast. Lemme guess, Golden State WILL get Yao and LeBron wants to be a knick, right?
"I'm 'Sota, man"
That says it right there.
As for wally, word out of the cleveland papers is that Z is definatly gone next year. They would definatly want to leave with a sign and trade. Wally Szerbiak is making what Z is in the ballpark for a contract. Clevland has been infatuated with him and theres been lots of rumors the past few years about him going there.
Never know.
Z
KG
Trenton
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With a solid pick from this years draft, imagine a hinrich or bosh type player in one of those question marks.
Hinrich or Bosh with a mid first round pick? You'd have a better chance hoping that Anthony Carter is the Second Coming.
Um...
What that says to me is if KG was say to say what he really feels he'd be saying he wants the out of there ...
You can pretend it's not happening, just like you can pretend Carter and Olowkandi don't suck ass...but it won't change the truth..
He is definitely thinking about it...
And he can be idolized anywhere...I don't think he considers that a good tradeoff for a fruitless NBA career and being fated to lose and go down in history as a choking , all because of a up Front Office.
I can tell you right now McHale is going to have to kiss some major ass and reach deep down into his bag of bull to keep KG positive and wanting to stay...
He's not denying that he is thinking about leaving...and I'd take that as a bad sign if I were you.
He's flat out done every thing you guys have asked of him...and the FO has screwed up every time...
Exactly how much do you want from the guy? His legacy? I think you ask too much.
I'll be surprised if McHale is kissing anybody's ass anywhere except on his living room couch next season.I can tell you right now McHale is going to kiss some major ass and reach deep down into his bag of bull to keep KG positive and wanting to stay...
Then that's even worse...because Garnett likes McHale and he's probably the main reason KG is still there now.
Cassell and Spree sabotaged the Wolves...I think they feel KG didn't do a good enough job of getting their back at contract renogtiating time...
I don't think they can dump anything with Spree...I think his deal is up and if he gets the MLE from someone I will be surprised...Cassell is on the books for 1 more year at 6 mil...they are not going to get anything good for him...especially after his mouth and his play this season...
The Wolves may end up having no choice but to resign Spree and Cassell...they don't have any thing they can do to pull of a trade for true help...Wally for Z? That will be the Rasho years revisited. Even if they do it it won't make a difference...
Ironically I think the guy whose game would most fit with KG's for the purposes of winning a le is Marbury...A C isn't going to make the difference unless his name is Shaq.
This sounds like a load of crap, can I see it in writing please (link)?Clevland has been infatuated with him
Right, so that's what I meant. His contract is off their books. So if they let him go, they get his cap space, right? (Every year I have to get a refresher on this stuff.)
Maybe, maybe not. Cassell's money isn't ridiculous, and as we've seen, you can get lots for that "expiring year" contact. Plus, unlike Spree, I think he may have least least one good year left in him....Cassell is on the books for 1 more year at 6 mil...they are not going to get anything good for him...especially after his mouth and his play this season...
Z is certainly MUCH better than Rasho on defense. His major question is durability. The thing I think is that Wally is starting to set himself up as next year's Spree/Cassell problem with his early complaining.The Wolves may end up having no choice but to resign Spree and Cassell...they don't have any thing they can do to pull of a trade for true help...Wally for Z? That will be the Rasho years revisited. Even if they do it it won't make a difference...
They'll still be over the cap...so they won't have any additional room to go after anyone. And I'm no expert on the cap either...
Yeah but his at ude is awful and expiring year contracts are much more attractive if they are ridiculous...Maybe, maybe not. Cassell's money isn't ridiculous, and as we've seen, you can get lots for that "expiring year" contact. Plus, unlike Spree, I think he may have least least one good year left in him.
I dunno if I agree Z is a better defensive player...I think he's a better offensive player, but Rasho used to be a good offensive player too..Plus Z is made out of crepe paper and Rasho is pretty durable.Z is certainly MUCH better than Rasho on defense. His major question is durability. The thing I think is that Wally is starting to set himself up as next year's Spree/Cassell problem with his early complaining.
Spree would have liked to have gone fishing but he has a summer job lined up so his family would not starve. WalMart's uniform policy had him cut his hair though.
Last edited by Experiment2100; 04-17-2005 at 10:35 PM.
Damn, I screwed that up. I meant offense, of course.
I shoulda waited for the season to end to post those huh? Wait till you see my Kobe one.
walley wants to start next year even if it means he is traded
see nba forum
I hope KG goes to LA, if the lakers trade what they get from Miami last year, it could work.
I would love to see San Antonio winning against Kobe, Garnett and the Lakers at the same time.
Zydrunas Ilgauskas and his family and friends are telling people he thinks there's only a small chance he'll be back with the Cavaliers next season. He told the New York Daily News that he's probably going to buy a home in New York this summer, perhaps as he prepares to sell his Cleveland home." Akron Beacon Journal
"Since there are only a few teams with enough available cap space to sign Ilgauskas for his market value -- and he's probably not interested in the likes of the Hawks, Clippers or Bobcats at this stage of his career -- there's a high probability the Cavaliers might end up working a sign-and-trade with their All-Star center if they don't keep him." Akron Beacon Journal
"Several NBA observers suggest the Lakers or the Timberwolves could be willing trade partners for big Z. The Lamar Odom-Kobe Bryant experiment did not go well this season, and the Lakers might be willing to deal Odom and the four years and $52 million left on his deal. The extremely versatile Odom excelled in the Eastern Conference with the Miami Heat last season." Akron Beacon Journal
"There have been Wally Szczerbiak-to-Cleveland trade rumors for years, and his outside shooting would be welcomed. His contract (four years, $45 million left after this season) matches about what Ilgauskas is expected to get." Akron Beacon Journal
Theres more if your too lazy to search.
Right guys, Are you the same bunch that said he was gone after losing his best friend Joe Smith in that debacle? Remember how the wolves were destined to never get out of the cellar after that? Remember how he was supposed to be gone? How about his contract a few years ago? Remember how he was definatly going to leave then too?
Z>>>Wally
People are acting like Wally is Cal Ripken here compared to Z. I'd take an injured Z before another injured wally any day.
McHale likely is gone.
Hey, sorry if this has been posted already here or on another thread, but can someone confirm if this is the first time in NBA history that BOTH WCF Finalists are out of the playoffs the following year?
C-ya, Wolves and Lakers. It was fun while it lasted.
Yeah...and Garnett is like the first regining MVP to not make the playoffs(without a good excuse)...the only other was Kareem after the Big O retired...
Garnett has 3 guys who were All Stars fairly recently and still missed the playoffs...looks bad on his record...biggest MVP flop ever.
Ouch. No first team for you, KG!
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