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Dan, there's no "s" at the end of "terrorist" when you're talking about a single terrorist.
Sorry, that's been bugging me for a long time.
And this means what?
Dan, there's no "s" at the end of "terrorist" when you're talking about a single terrorist.
Sorry, that's been bugging me for a long time.
I think the whole point is that there needs to be terrorists for it to be terrorism, not terrorist...
I wouldn't say that at all.
I guess one person could commit an act of terror but usually terrorism is associated with a conspiracy, which by definition implies more than one person...premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents
Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.
One senior lawmaker said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan's efforts.
CIA director Leon Panetta and the Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, have been asked by Congress "to preserve" all do ents and intelligence files that relate to Hasan, according to the lawmaker.
On Sunday, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.
"If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.
Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.
In a blog posting early Monday led "Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing," Awlaki calls Hassan a "hero" and a "man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.
The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.
The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.
He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI, Awlaki moved to Yemen.
People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If true, that goes to intent.
If true it begs the question of how the the Army lets an officer who's attempted to contact Al Qaeda stay within its ranks. That goes way past any political correctness and straight to ing stupidity.
In any event, I want actual proof of this and not more supposed clandestine meetings with Iraq Intelligence officer bull .
murder, capital murder, mass murder, shooting spree
Seriously, I don't understand why the left feels the need to spread their butt cheeks, insert their heads, and have total denial about what this really is.
If a radical Christian pro-lifer went into a branch of Planned Parenthood and started spraying bullets, don't you think the MSM would question the person's religious and political motives?
how is it not murder or mass murder or a shooting spree? why do you get upset that I am calling this crime by its correct nomenclature? Maybe it's also an act of terrorism, but it's not as self-evident to me as it is to you. Some investigation might prove you right, in which case you can have a cookie.
Yes, because he would be as you called him "a radical Christian pro-lifer," so if the media knows those things they are going to report them. Right now, seems like the media doesn't know much about the shooter's intent or personal life. Some bits and pieces are starting to come to light, but it's probably going to take a while to figure out because the shooter didn't leave a note or a video about what he was planning to do (at least, not one that we know about).If a radical Christian pro-lifer went into a branch of Planned Parenthood and started spraying bullets, don't you think the MSM would question the person's religious and political motives?
I think it's a pointless argument anyhow--the guy killed a lot of innocent people.
Did the Obama administration call this particular act a man-caused disaster?
Show a link to it.
LE 18 Part 1 CH 113B Subsection 2331
(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that— (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended— (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
Thanks again for showing you were wrong. It takes a big man to admit it.
This crime does not yet fit the definition of terrorism you posted. It might be proven to in the future, but not now.
I'll grant you (A) and (C), but I'll need some convincing on (B).
I respectfully disagree.
Ok, prove your case.
Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used 'Electronic Means' to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009 —
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News.
It is not known whether the intelligence agencies informed the Army that one of its officers was seeking to connect with suspected al Qaeda figures, the officials said.
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI) said the CIA had, so far, refused to brief the intelligence committees on what, if any, knowledge they had about Hasan's efforts.
CIA director Leon Panetta and the Director of National Intelligence, Dennis Blair, have been asked by Congress "to preserve" all do ents and intelligence files that relate to Hasan, according to the lawmaker.
Hoekstra said he is "absolutely furious" that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan's attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.
Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S.
In a blog posting early Monday led "Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing," Awlaki calls Hasan a "hero" and a "man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people."
According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.
The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there.
The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego.
He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI, Awlaki moved to Yemen.
People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
On Sunday, Senator Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.
"If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance," Lieberman told Fox News Sunday.
Army Chief of Staff
A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, "We would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University."
Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan's statements.
"And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of office&be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the cons ution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict," Finell told ABC News.
The Army Chief of Staff, General George Casey, raised concerns over the weekend that innocent Muslim soldiers could suffer as a result of the shooting at Fort Hood.
"I think the speculation (on Hasan's Islamic roots) could potentially heighten backlash against some of our Muslim soldiers," he said on ABC's "This Week."
Not proof.
Again, it might turn out to be the case. Not there yet.
if any of that is true, then there are much bigger problems than a guy named hasan.
What would be proof?
According to people like Nbadan, there's not even proof that 911 was a terrorist attack.
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