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    Son. Nobody on the Jazz is mormon and I do not support them. I hope they lose every game left on their schedule. those losers.
    son why so much hate in your heart ?

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    She is not a strong, independent woman. She is a stupid who represents the most disgusting, bigoted and moronic segment of the American populace.
    Ahh the irony.

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    son why so much hate in your heart ?
    Son. The country is full of evil conservative morons. Between listening to Palinites and watching a Jazz team that takes it's money and goes home, I'm left as a very angry individual. Nothing wrong with it IMO, but hate is f'ing right.

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    Whottt, I personally coudln't care less about that photo one way or another. But I'm one a person who gives a about flag pins either. That is the point.

    Eh...people did that because it fit with the negative perceptions about Obama. I personally don't think the pin was all that big of deal compared to his Rev and that picture where he doesn't have his hand over his heart.

    Stuff like that is always going to stick to Obama easier then anything else until he manages to convince people otherwise, his cross to bear so to speak.


    No one will even think twice about that sort of accusation with Palin just because of the way she comes off.

    The stupid/ditz image is her cross to bear.

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    Son. The country is full of evil conservative morons. Between listening to Palinites and watching a Jazz team that takes it's money and goes home, I'm left as a very angry individual. Nothing wrong with it IMO, but hate is f'ing right.
    lol son this country is not "full of evil conservative morons" ... the majority of this country is in the middle or to the left. although son I can understand your anger with the Utah WhiteJazz, but imagine being in my shoes right now? ... CP3 is badly hurt, we are stuck with Peja, and Devin ing Brown is in our starting lineup. seriously son, go get drunk and appreciate the little things in life.

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    I have no interest in extending PC to Sarah Palin. For me to respect her as a woman I'd have to think of her as having human worth. As I consider her sub-human, any gender specific attack I use is basically irrelevant; the dignity of gender does not apply to something that is sub-human.

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    I have no interest in extending PC to Sarah Palin. For me to respect her as a woman I'd have to think of her as having human worth. As I consider her sub-human, any gender specific attack I use is basically irrelevant; the dignity of gender does not apply to something that is sub-human.
    Funny how the "party of tolerance" forgets who they are when dealing with powerful women who are not tokens for the democrat party.

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    Funny how the "party of tolerance" forgets who they are when dealing with powerful women who are not tokens for the democrat party.
    You want me to call Pelosi a too? Cause I have.

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    What's so funny Manny? I just saw that clip again on Greta's show and what Sarah actually said was that if she knew that picture would be used that way, she would've never allowed Runner's World to profile her.

    I'd really laugh if Runner's World sued Newsweek for stealing the photo.
    I'm sure you believe every word she says but I don't. She knew exactly what she was doing BUT if we are to believe her then I question how you want someone so naive in the White House? You want some one who misses the brutality obvious to lead our country?

    As I said, I don't believe what she's saying, I just think its pretty ironic.

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    I'm sure you believe every word she says but I don't. She knew exactly what she was doing BUT if we are to believe her then I question how you want someone so naive in the White House? You want some one who misses the brutality obvious to lead our country?

    As I said, I don't believe what she's saying, I just think its pretty ironic.
    LOL Manny you crack me up on this board ... you more than anyone on here Democrat or Republican SHAMELESSLY bow down to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the Democratic party tells you to. I'm all for supporting your party and all, but dude grow some balls and think for yourself. The same can be said for those who only support Republicans.

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    Huh? They were merely talking about publishing the photo.
    Palin is a secret jogging, phone fanning, flag-leaner.

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    LOL Manny you crack me up on this board ... you more than anyone on here Democrat or Republican SHAMELESSLY bow down to ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the Democratic party tells you to. I'm all for supporting your party and all, but dude grow some balls and think for yourself. The same can be said for those who only support Republicans.
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    Well guys - even the women on the view (with the exception of that shrew Joy Behar) said it was sexist and inappropriate. They said it trivialized her views and Whoopi said they'd be upset if it was a liberal woman. She also said it wasn't a liberal versus conservative issue - it was a women's issue.
    Why is it a women's issue?

    She posed for the damn picture. She knew it would be used somewhere.

    So where are the feminists - where's NOW. Shouldn't they be defending the sexualization of a strong, independent woman?
    What makes it sexualized?

    Your perception?

    The perception of other women?

    It certainly can't be the perception of men, because they can sexualize any picture of a moderately attractive woman -- unless you think that outfit is somehow more sexual than her usual outfit.

    It's astounding that a person can consider a picture she posed for and approved for use in a national magazine sexist.

    Tell me Crookshanks, did you shriek with righteous fury at the explicitly sexualized picture on this magazine cover?


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    Who gives a about the American Flag. It's just colored fabric.

    You can keep your ass in Canada talking like that.

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    this sarah palin character sure does generate some profound discourse. take this thread for instance. it's just oozing with substantive dialogue.

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    Palin is a secret jogging, phone fanning, flag-leaner.
    So, you're completely unable to explain why was Obama so furious with that photo of him being published. Noted.

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    So, you're completely unable to explain why was Obama so furious with that photo of him being published. Noted.
    Already did. You're completely unable to understand why. Noted.

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    Already did. You're completely unable to understand why. Noted.
    Do you mind to quote your explanation? As far as I understood, you're implicitly stating that publishing that photo without due context would lead to the popularization of wrong stereotypes of Obama, right?

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    Do you mind to quote your explanation? As far as I understood, you're implicitly stating that publishing that photo without due context would lead to the popularization of wrong stereotypes of Obama, right?
    Right. A picture of Palin in running attire would lead to the popularization of the right stereotype for Palin, as she is indeed a runner.

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    Right. A picture of Palin in running attire would lead to the popularization of the right stereotype for Palin, as she is indeed a runner.
    Except that the goal of the magazine using that photo was to raise doubts about Palin's gravitas and seriousness and not to illustrate an article about her passion for physical activity.

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    Except that the goal of the magazine using that photo was to raise doubts about Palin's gravitas and seriousness and not to illustrate an article about her passion for physical activity.
    With respect to the bolded:

    I think Palin did that well enough herself during last year's campaign and this year when she resigned. Her public pronouncements since then have not notably augmented whatever gravitas and seriousness she might still have IMO.

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    With respect to the bolded:

    I think Palin did that well enough herself during last year's campaign and this year when she resigned. Her public pronouncements since then have not notably augmented whatever gravitas and seriousness she might still have IMO.

    Subjective - I disagree and irrelevant: the point in case is how is any different Palin's reaction to the use of the photo to Obama's reaction to the use of his photo.

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    Subjective - I disagree and irrelevant
    Palin resigned because the adversity of the press and politicians in Juneau had become too much for her. That goes to seriousness -- she wasn't tough enough to fulfill the duties of office, so she quit. How is anyone supposed to take her seriously after that?

    Also, that you think there is any objective basis for claiming Sarah Palin has gravitas, well, that's the funniest thing I've heard in quite some time. Perhaps you can explain that one to us. On its face it's ridiculous.

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    Palin resigned because the adversity of the press and politicians in Juneau had become too much for her. That goes to seriousness -- she wasn't tough enough to fulfill the duties of office, so she quit. How is anyone supposed to take her seriously after that?

    Also, that you think there is any objective basis for claiming Sarah Palin has gravitas, well, that's the funniest thing I've heard in quite some time. Perhaps you can explain that one to us. On its face it's ridiculous.
    Aren't you trying to present as a fact your opinion on why she resigned?

    I don't have the patient nor the charitable mood to explain my opinions to those who a priori label them as ridiculous and hilarious.

    Once again, this is all beyond the scope of the discussion. It's irrelevant if some believe that Palin lacks seriousness. The point is that the magazine used the photo to cast doubts about her seriousness as a public servant by trying to link taking photos in a running attire to lack of gravitas.

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