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    Is this like the line from Jurassic Park, "Nature will find a a way."

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    People keep bringing up the conception part in order to adopt...they use it as part of thei argument....

    Just because you someone can conceive a child doen't make them a good parent.

    Ressurected calls calls it abnormal......what is normal? Is it abnormal because you say it is? I have discussed every point you have made.....you then say you never make a certain point.
    You did say this:
    sexual couples are not, by biological design, capable of reproduction and, therefore, are unable to become parents naturally. If nature had wanted them to be parents, we'd all be capable of asexual reproduction.
    Then you deny you implied you were using it for you postion.

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    People keep bringing up the conception part in order to adopt...they use it as part of thei argument....
    People with damaged or diseased reproductive organs can't conceive, yet, I'm not opposed to a heterosexual, in such a position, adopting a child. So, it isn't just that sexuals can't conceive. It's why they can't conceive that is the element of my argument...because it's would be abnormal.
    Just because you someone can conceive a child doen't make them a good parent.
    That's proven every day. But, that doesn't mean we should countenance the parenting by persons that were never naturally intended to be parents.
    Ressurected calls calls it abnormal......what is normal?
    Normal is a consequence of expected cause and effect. It is normal for heterosexuals to have sexual intercourse and conceive and birth and parent. I is not normal for sexuals to have sexual intercourse and not conceive and not birth and still expect to parent.

    Normal is behavior that perpetuates the species. Abnormal is behavior that would result in extinction.
    Is it abnormal because you say it is?
    No, I'm merely stating an opinion based on my own reason reached after studying the topic.
    I have discussed every point you have made.....you then say you never make a certain point.
    And, I've responded. Without going back, you've implied I'm anti-gay, which I'm not. You've implied that I'm opposed to gays not parenting because they can't conceive. I merely stated a biological fact.

    My opposition to gay adoption isn't because they can't conceive, it's because they choose a lifestlye that, to me (and many others), is counter to natural law and normalcy, and then expect everyone to be okay with their desire to parent. I don't think I can be any clearer than that.

    They've chosen a lifestyle that doesn't normally or naturally result in parenthood -- therefore, parenting for a sexual is abnormal.
    Then you deny you implied you were using it for you postion.
    As I've explained, again in this post, that wasn't my implication or my position -- but, that your position won't allow you to see my point, is interesting.

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    Sounds to me like some backward way of thinking. This gives me a headache.

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    There are sociobiologists who believe sexuality is part of the evolutionary process. sexual aunts and uncles are likely to look out more for their blood relatives, thus helping the child survive and pass on genes. Also, is bisexuality considered an abnormal behavior ?? Bisexuals can produce offspring.

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    There are sociobiologists who believe sexuality is part of the evolutionary process.
    There are sociobiologists that think pedophilia is natural too...your point?
    sexual aunts and uncles are likely to look out more for their blood relatives, thus helping the child survive and pass on genes.
    Now who's stereotyping?
    Also, is bisexuality considered an abnormal behavior ?? Bisexuals can produce offspring.
    I believe it's an abnormal behavior choice...yes.

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    I don't think a child's love depends on whether or not their parent is gay.

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    I don't think a child's love depends on whether or not their parent is gay.
    No, but their future might...

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    I just wish Anita Bryant would mind her own darn business...

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    Its not stereotyping, its called inclusive fitness
    def-The expansion of the concept of the fitness of a genotype to include benefits accrued to relatives of an individual since relatives share parts of their genomes. Hence an apparently altruistic act toward a relative may in fact enhance the fitness of the individual performing the act.

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    We're still discussing this....
    So if you can conceive than you can be a better parent than someone who can't conceive....well men can't have babies....gay or straight....but a gay one is a poorer parent.....yeah makes sense to me....so what if 2 straight guys got together as roomates and one of them had adopted a foster child...would they be wrong....if they wanted to raise the child...Oh and you don't "chose to be gay as a lifestyle" you're born with it.

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    Maybe we should ask Alvarez for his opinion on the matter...

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    Oh and you don't "chose to be gay as a lifestyle" you're born with it.
    Proof?

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    You're not gay, the guy you're having sex with is.

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    Read this and then let's talk.

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    Satin - over?

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    You guys are real wits when you run out of reason...

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    Read this and then let's talk.
    So you're basing all of your argument on personal opinion and one book?

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    ressurrected one, even if you do choose to be gay
    then what does that prove?

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    ressurrected one, even if you do choose to be gay
    then what does that prove?
    That you would choose a behavior counter to perpetuation of the species is abnormal.

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    So you're basing all of your argument on personal opinion and one book?
    Nope. It's just one of the best ones...

    What are you basing your argument on?

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    That you would choose a behavior counter to perpetuation of the species is abnormal.

    ?????


    thats the biggest load of ive ever heard, ever jacked off?, ever had relations with a condom?, or with a girl on the pill? or done ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF that doesnt envolve impregnating a fertile female

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    That you would choose a behavior counter to perpetuation of the species is abnormal.

    ?????


    thats the biggest load of ive ever heard, ever jacked off?, ever had relations with a condom?, or with a girl on the pill? or done ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF that doesnt envolve impregnating a fertile female


    lol
    maybe he meant to say if the first set of species decided to all be gay then there would be no sapiens

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