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    TD and Manu shouldve been traded 5 years ago

    the spurs are an embarrassment
    And discard two championships? They aren't that easy to come by! I think that we should appreciate the four we have, and three we got with Tim and Manu. Five years ago the Spurs probably didn't envision Manu playing so much internationally and his body starting to break down so rapidly.

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    The problem in this thread is that a lot of people have focused on offensive problems from a stylistic standpoint..sure it might help a little if Parker passed a little more, but it wouldn't make a significant difference..

    The D should be the main focus here..particularly getting some athletic wing defenders, and more importantly, getting a functional defensive big man next to Duncan..these have been needs since the last le..

    Pop's style has clearly changed though..he talks about defense, but he doesn't follow through..defensive players no longer play on this team for the most part..

    IMO, the main Spurs problems..

    1- Parker and Ginobili's poor play, especially Manu..obviously this team won't go anywhere without them..

    2- Defense..particularly P&R defense, defending switches, and Tony Parker's atrocious defense..those 3 are all huge issues..the last one isn't fixable..the other 2 might not be fixable with our current personnel..Duncan can be exploited on the p&r nowadays, we really need a mobile big..

    I've noticed this for a while now..teams are running multiple screens to free up one of their big men to have a matchup advantage against one of our wing players, and this team doesn't know how to respond to this..it has been killing us for a while now..it's either lack of understanding how to rotate, and it's the lack of size..other teams are pounding the Spurs with this..

    3- Energy players..Manu used to be the main guy, but he doesn't have it right now..Hill isn't an energy player on a consistent basis, he thinks too much, which is understandable considering his position..

    Blair is our only energy player..I love him, but sometimes you need more athletic guys to spark a team with some blocks and dunks..some athletic plays..I'd love to see Ratliff and Hairston get in for 5 minutes in a game to spark the team, or at least let those guys play when guys ahead of them in the rotation are playing poorly..if not for production reasons, then at least to light a fire under some asses..what happened to Pop's doghouse?..

    I'm tired of seeing every single team come out with some athletic players that kill the Spurs with their hustle, energy and athleticism..

    4- Pop..I love the guy, but he's gone soft..Finley had him neutered, he doesn't have his balls anymore..he doesn't put players in the doghouse, he's too stubborn and abuses concepts like small ball(sometimes it works, but at least do something else when the team is struggling with it)..he's no longer a hard ass that focuses on D..we need the old Pop back..



    This team is tough to read in general though..I find it interesting that we're ranked 6th in overall efficiency(O+D), only behind Boston, Cleveland, LA, Atlanta and Dallas..just ahead of Portland, Denver and Orlando..
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    The problem in this thread is that a lot of people have focused on offensive problems from a stylistic standpoint..sure it might help a little if Parker passed a little more, but it wouldn't make a significant difference..

    The D should be the main focus here..particularly getting some athletic wing defenders, and more importantly, getting a functional defensive big man next to Duncan..these have been needs since the last le..

    Pop's style has clearly changed though..he talks about defense, but he doesn't follow through..defensive players no longer play on this team for the most part..

    IMO, the main Spurs problems..

    1- Parker and Ginobili's poor play, especially Manu..obviously this team won't go anywhere without them..

    2- Defense..particularly P&R defense, defending switches, and Tony Parker's atrocious defense..those 3 are all huge issues..the last one isn't fixable..the other 2 might not be fixable with our current personnel..Duncan can be exploited on the p&r nowadays, we really need a mobile big..

    I've noticed this for a while now..teams are running multiple screens to free up one of their big men to have a matchup advantage against one of our wing players, and this team doesn't know how to respond to this..it has been killing us for a while now..it's either lack of understanding how to rotate, and it's the lack of size..other teams are pounding the Spurs with this..

    3- Energy players..Manu used to be the main guy, but he doesn't have it right now..Hill isn't an energy player on a consistent basis, he thinks too much, which is understandable considering his position..

    Bogans and Blair are our only energy players..I love them both, but sometimes you need more athletic guys to spark a team with some blocks and dunks..some athletic plays..I'd love to see Ratliff and Hairston get in for 5 minutes in a game to spark the team, or at least let those guys play when guys ahead of them in the rotation are playing poorly..if not for production reasons, then at least to light a fire under some asses..what happened to Pop's doghouse?..

    I'm tired of seeing every single team come out with some athletic players that kill the Spurs with their hustle, energy and athleticism..

    4- Pop..I love the guy, but he's gone soft..Finley had him neutered, he doesn't have his balls anymore..he doesn't put players in the doghouse, he's too stubborn and abuses concepts like small ball(sometimes it works, but at least do something else when the team is struggling with it)..he's no longer a hard ass that focuses on D..we need the old Pop back..


    This team is tough to read in general though..I find it interesting that we're ranked 6th in overall efficiency(O+D), only behind Boston, Cleveland, LA, Atlanta and Dallas..just ahead of Portland, Denver and Orlando..
    Good stuff and excellent points.

    Regarding Pop, as much as they talked about transforming the team over the offseason, the moves were made. However, it's become clear to me that he simply doesn't value youth and athleticism. I don't think he feels as though those commodities equal winning. Despite how watching teams like the Fakers, Blazers, Thunder and Nuggets dominate his team game in and game out.

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    It looks like our problems really are unfixable

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    Are problems are fixable, do you work for BSPN?

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    TD and Manu shouldve been traded 5 years ago

    the spurs are an embarrassment

    You really shouldn't be hittin' the ol' moonshine till after 8 am.

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    Everybody is turning the Spurs problems into rocket science. No team is perfect. There is no defensive knight that can stop everyone. Spurs just need to play with energy and hustle and take care of the dam ball. Sure there are other things, but I bet playing with energy and some killer instinct will go a looooong way!

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    C'mon its too early... keep the faith

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