Actually this is Ariza the championship roleplayer:
11.3 PTS on 49.7 % FG (.610 TS%), 46.7% on 3PT + elite defense
He's not a better defender than Artest, nor passer. But I liked Ariza's offense on the LA over Ron's. Ariza had a near perfect shot selection and was crazy good in transition (much better than RJ here as well).
No, that is called a streak. Averages to be legit require a bigger sample size. For the year, Ariza was at what I posted.
Also, not so elite defense getting torched by Melo and other big wing players. That is why Artest was brought in.
Ariza is a very good player and I would have been extremely happy to have him on the Spurs. But don't let your hate for the Spurs blind you. RJ is a better overall player and without a doubt, RJ+Dice is >>>>>>>>>>>>Ariza for the Spurs.
Whole playoffs is not a streak. And you're using numbers 30 games with RJ you silly hypocrite.
The playoffs numbers are more indicative of what Ariza can do. Since that's exactly how he was playing the last few months of the season. He started the season with limited minutes off the bench behind Luke Walton coming back from a broken foot.
Melo does not consistently torch Ariza. Stop lying.
Yes he does. Most of the bigger wings torch him. Pierce, Bron, Melo....Kobe has to do the heavy lifting there.
Whole playoffs is a streak. Look at Ariza's numbers now. RJ's are in line with his career %'s and totals.
Arizas numbers now are in line with what I posted, not what you posted.
Don't let your homerish delusions confuse you. RJ is no where near a better overall player. Only an idiot that doesn't consider defense would say that.
Ariza + 2010 cap space >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. RJ and his terrible contract and 1 failed season with Mcdyss
No. It is not a failed season and you are wrong. Spurs without that RJ contract would still only have the MLE to spend.
RJ is clearly the better player and that is taking into consideration defense. RJ is a good defender.
Someone who can play better than another player as a number one option and as a role player is clearly the better player. He might not be better in every aspect of the game, but overall, certainly.
No Melo does not. This is too easy, your argument here is a joke. Ariza guards all those guys better than RJ ever could.
No it's not.
Look at Ariza's record now.
No they aren't in line with what you posted (learn how to read stats).
And stop comparing the roleplayer version with the green light 1st option version.
His record is worse than RJ's.
His numbers now 38% FG and 32% 3PT is in line with what you posted in the playoffs?
If Ariza could guard those guys and is a better offensive player than Artest, why was Ron brought in? For his passing? Artest was brought in to guard the guys Ariza could not. Who are they?
You're wrong here.
Delusional homer.
RJ doesn't play better than Ariza as a roleplayer nor does he defend better. So it's impossible for him to be a better overall player. Now you're reduced to lying.
How come RJ's 1st option vs Role Player numbers compare, but Ariza's do not?
How come Ariza for the whole season last year was not close to his playoff numbers and how come he has not come close this year?
RJ does play better as evidenced by his numbers. I never said he defended better, I said he is a good defender.
How is it impossible for him to be a better player when he clearly is and proved that as a number one option. If you want to argue he is not a BETTER ROLE player, then maybe, but I still doubt it. But if you are trying to argue player vs. player, RJ is definitely better.
How am I a homer when I say it is not a failed season and that RJ is a good defender? Am I wrong? If so, explain how.
If Ariza was so great, why did LA bring in Ron? For his passing?
Ariza's defense is infinitely better than RJ's. Part of the reason why the Rockets are a great team and the Bucks were absolutely horrendous in a ty conference.
Already explained.
For people that actually understand basketball. Coach gave him the green light to shoot any shots he wants. He's not a 1st option/create off the dribble type. He's forced out of the role that he excels in.
Rockets are a great team
You saying RJ is a good and better defender than Ariza is as homerly delusional as it gets.
RJ a good defender
Another 1st round exit not a failed season?
Where did I say that liar? I said RJ is a good defender. I did not say he is better than Ariza on defense.
Have the playoffs started? Tell me again about those regular season championships.RJ a good defender
Another 1st round exit not a failed season?
Record as a first option is better than RJ. Ariza has hit more clutch the past two seasons than RJ has hit in his entire career.
Spurs would have cap flex room if they didn't trade for RJ.
Ron has nothing to do with this.
Ariza's playoff performance was exactly like he was playing for the last 2 months of the season.
Ariza averages around 20 shots a game, and shoots ALOT more then any other player on his team and is the 3rd leading scorer on his team. Thats not a good first option.
Ariza has been so overrated, he is just a role player but the rockets have been trying to make him as a star.
The reason the Rockets have been playing good is because Landry and Brooks are playing like All-stars this season
good points.......
This is wrong. 3 of their losses against winning teams came in the first 11 games, without Pau Gasol, including their worst loss of the season. The Lakers without Pau aren't even close to the same team.
Also, their loss against Phoenix came without Artest.
Premature ejaculation much?! LOL Ask Raptors who the best in the West is ...or Mavs ...
Since Spurs are better than blow out the Mavs Friday night ...
Tacker started this thread. So this thread is not a premature ejaclation thread. An idiot posted it.
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