Arenas suspended indefinitely

[nkdlunch]

I don't necessarily buy Arenas story that he brought the guns to the arena for the sole purpose of handing over to team security, but that's all he's copped to. We're supposed to have due process in this country.

As for his "joking" about it and what went down in Philadelphia last night, David Stern can get his panties in a wad and suspend him, since he's well within his rights under the CBA to do so, but why am I supposed to condemn Arenas and support Stern's decision? Can anybody provide a coherent answer to the last question?

The only one outraged seems to be you.


Again, the NBA can suspend players to protect their image. That is their call. They are the owners. An owner can do whatever the they want with their employees. Welcome to the real world.

[Findog]

I love my grandma!

[Drachen]

I don't know if anyone has already made this joke, and there is likely a better one to be made with similar material, but I just thought of this.

Didn't anyone tell Arenas that they haven't been the Washington Bullets in years?

[Cane]

He didn't confess to pulling a gun on Crittenden as a result of a gambling dispute. And his confession consisted of bringing the guns to the Verizon Center to give to team security.

Lets take this nice and slow so you can understand.

First, you misspelled Crittenton.

Next, I didn't say he pulled a gun on Crittenton but said: "Arenas bringing multiple firearms as a joke in response to gambling drama in a profession where you aren't allowed to bring them to sanctioned events/areas is inexcusable."

Which is true:

Arenas apologized for bringing several guns to the Wizards locker room after he was interviewed by federal prosecutors. He said that removing the unloaded guns from his locker, in a confrontation with teammate Javaris Crittenton in a dispute involving gambling debts, was "a misguided effort to play a joke on a teammate."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz0bs9lUXVM

Thanks for the civic lesson, asshole.

Any time, numbnuts.

Tell me something I don't know. What I'm asking is, why is it a big deal?
From a marketing perspective, tell me how many fans the League is going to lose as a result of Arenas' behavior.

Its about following basic rules and setting an example. Sports are a family friendly business and what Arenas did was flat out idiotic and stupid especially how he's handled the situation. That kind of asshattery just doesn't land in the professional world.

And whats the big deal about bringing in multiple firearms in a response to gambling drama and then acting like an asshat about it? Thats basically a dumbass slap to the face to the hands that are feeding him from fans to executives.

Go to the real world and get a job and you'll understand the importance of those qualities in a professional context.

[Findog]

The only one outraged seems to be you.


Again, the NBA can suspend players to protect their image. That is their call. They are the owners. An owner can do whatever the they want with their employees. Welcome to the real world.

Hey dumbass, I didn't ask by what legal mechanism Stern suspended Arenas. I want to know why I should support that decision. Can you wrap your tiny little head around that question?

How is it protecting their image? Which hardcore fans will give up on the NBA as a result of this incident with Arenas? What casual fans will completely turn away from the NBA since they're probably not following this story closely?

[nkdlunch]

damn. that's some spoonfeedin right there.

If Findog still doesn't get it, he's on his own.

[nkdlunch]

Hey dumbass, I didn't ask by what legal mechanism Stern suspended Arenas. I want to know why I should support that decision. Can you wrap your tiny little head around that question?

How is it protecting their image? Which hardcore fans will give up on the NBA as a result of this incident with Arenas? What casual fans will completely turn away from the NBA since they're probably not following this story closely?

LMAO

you don't have to support the decision. As we don't have to support yours. Cry all you want. maybe you can email stern.

[jag]

The only one outraged seems to be you.

I fail to see how he's "outraged."

Again, the NBA can suspend players to protect their image. That is their call. They are the owners. An owner can do whatever the they want with their employees. Welcome to the real world.

I think there's too much of a big deal being made out of all of this. But you're right in saying that Stern can do whatever he wants. The NBA is a business...and you have (and should have) the right to do whatever you feel is necessary to improve and protect your brand.

[Findog]

Lets take this nice and slow so you can understand.

I understand just fine what he copped to and what he didn't cop to. And I understand just fine what gives Stern the legal authority to do what he did. What I want to know is why I should be outraged at Arenas and support Stern's decision.

Its about following basic rules and setting an example. Sports are a family friendly business and what Arenas did was flat out idiotic and stupid especially how he's handled the situation. That kind of asshattery just doesn't land in the professional world.

"Blah Blah Blah Athletes are role models who we look up to and have an obligation to set an example Blah Blah Blah"

And you're the one pulling this asshat patronizing routine about living in the real world? What sort of ing Disneyland World do you think you're living in? I DO.NOT.CARE

And whats the big deal about bringing in multiple firearms in a response to gambling drama and then acting like an asshat about it?

What is the big deal? How has your life changed as a result of this incident? How has your enjoyment on the league lessened as a result of this incident?

Thats basically a dumbass slap to the face to the hands that are feeding him from fans to executives.

Then why am I not offended?

Go to the real world and get a job and you'll understand the importance of those qualities in a professional context.

That's cute. You know nothing about me and think you can lecture about naivety and how to accrue wisdom, and yet you're doing an amateur Skip Bayless imitation in this thread. Who ing cares?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Arenas shouldn't be suspended for making a joke. Arenas has every god given right to make jokes about his life, he's not harming anyone else. Last I checked, Crittenton is still warming the bench like his good ol' self, Arenas hasn't shot anybody, and no one should be offended by the jokes Arenas is making about himself. NBA players don't sign up to be role models, they sign up to be basketball players. If a kid finds his parent's gun and plays with it because he heard Arenas has a gun, it's not Gilbert's fault, it's the kid's parents fault.

[Findog]

damn. that's some spoonfeedin right there.

If Findog still doesn't get it, he's on his own.

Yeah, spoon fulls of bull . Cane is just too busy knocking down a strawman to provide a coherent answer to my question, which is "Why am I supposed to care about Arenas conduct? How does this hurt the League from a marketing standpoint? Why are we supposed to applaud Stern's decision?"

Illiterate Spur fan interprets that as "How is Stern able to suspend him?"

I know what the CBA is.

[in2deep]

Arenas shouldn't be suspended for making a joke. Arenas has every god given right to make jokes about his life, he's not harming anyone else. Last I checked, Crittenton is still warming the bench like his good ol' self, Arenas hasn't shot anybody, and no one should be offended by the jokes Arenas is making about himself. NBA players don't sign up to be role models, they sign up to be basketball players. If a kid finds his parent's gun and plays with it because he heard Arenas has a gun, it's not Gilbert's fault, it's the kid's parents fault.

I don't think the NBA is suspending Arenas for harming anybody. They are suspending Arenas for making himself look like a dumbass by not shutting up and istead clowning about a federal investigation.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

An owner can do whatever the they want with their employees.

Not really.

[Findog]

I don't think the NBA is suspending Arenas for harming anybody. They are suspending Arenas for making himself look like a dumbass by not shutting up and istead clowning about a federal investigation.

Which is their right, but I think it makes Stern look like the thin-skinned Warden from Shawshank Redemption.

[nkdlunch]

"Why am I supposed to care about Arenas conduct?

You are not supposed to care. The NBA cares. Because they are a business and don't want to lose $ when media/politicians start critizicing it.

How does this hurt the League from a marketing standpoint? Why are we supposed to applaud Stern's decision?".

It's all about $. 99.999% of NBA decisions are based on money.

Again you are not supposed to applaud it. NBA is protecting themselves. plain and simple.

[Cane]

I understand just fine what he copped to and what he didn't cop to. And I understand just fine what gives Stern the legal authority to do what he did. What I want to know is why I should be outraged at Arenas and support Stern's decision.

Because what Arenas did was inexcusable and historically stupid.

"Blah Blah Blah Athletes are role models who we look up to and have an obligation to set an example Blah Blah Blah"

Yup. Part of the deal when you sign a contract.

And you're the one pulling this asshat patronizing routine about living in the real world?

Yea its obvious you and basically anyone else who doesn't agree with Stern doesn't have professional experience.

What sort of ing Disneyland World do you think you're living in? I DO.NOT.CARE

Its not about you.

What is the big deal? How has your life changed as a result of this incident? How has your enjoyment on the league lessened as a result of this incident?

This incident strengthened my opinion of Stern and the league.

Then why am I not offended?

Because you have no real professional experience and/or have no problem with people bringing guns to their workplaces as amusement and then acting like an asshat about it all.

That's cute. You know nothing about me and think you can lecture about naivety and how to accrue wisdom, and yet you're doing an amateur Skip Bayless imitation in this thread. Who ing cares?

You do apparently. As does the NBA, the media, fans, etc.

[Findog]

You are not supposed to care. The NBA cares. Because they are a business and don't want to lose $ when media/politicians start critizicing it.

Were there corporate sponsors threatening to end business relationships because Arenas was still playing while due process was taking its course?

[MiamiHeat]

So...

you're a rich multimillionaire and the best place you can afford to hide your guns is at your place of employment?

[Blake]

The two guys in question are pussies who would never actually discharge their weapons. The guns probably weren't even loaded.

the character of the guys in question is an irrelevant issue.

if you allow one guy to bring out guns then you have to allow everyone, even the non-pussies that might actually discharge their weapons.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

I don't think the NBA is suspending Arenas for harming anybody. They are suspending Arenas for making himself look like a dumbass by not shutting up and istead clowning about a federal investigation.

Did you read my post? That's what I said I disagreed with. People shouldn't get suspended for making fun of themselves. It's their god given right.

[Blake]

Quit being such a JiggaBoo...You fail to includethe fact that Arenas' handguns were licensed

are you sure that's a fact?

[Findog]

Because what Arenas did was inexcusable and historically stupid.

Probably, but I want to know why that necessitates his suspension.

Yup. Part of the deal when you sign a contract.

No, it's not. The NBA retains the right to suspend players for whatever reason it deems fit. Nebulous "be a role model for the children" ephemera is your psychological projection.

Yea its obvious you and basically anyone else who doesn't agree with Stern doesn't have professional experience.

I work in a corporate environment and have plenty of experience with how and why corporations do what they do. You are the idiot if you think Arenas playing in the NBA for millions is analogous to some corporate worker drone sitting in a cube.

Because you have no real professional experience

And what do you base that on, Kreskin? Where did you develop this amazing ability to discern the lifestyles and backgrounds of people you encounter over the internet?

and/or have no problem with people bringing guns to their workplaces as amusement and then acting like an asshat about it all.

Who said I don't have a problem with that? If you think an NBA locker room equates to a corporate IT department, mechanic's shop or GAP store at the mail, I think you're the one who can't separate the real world from fantasy.

Stern can do what he wants. What I want to know is why this was necessary while an investigation took place and was pending. Because it seems to me that the suspension is not about "protecting the league" since no sponsors were clamoring for Arena's suspension, but Stern feeling like Arenas was mocking him personally with his antics in Philly last night. Stern is a thin-skinned prick and he proved it today.

[Cane]

Illiterate Spur fan interprets that as "How is Stern able to suspend him?"

I know what the CBA is.

No, numbnuts, its not just about how Stern is able to suspend him. But "why".

Yeah, spoon fulls of bull . Cane is just too busy knocking down a strawman to provide a coherent answer to my question, which is "Why am I supposed to care about Arenas conduct? How does this hurt the League from a marketing standpoint? Why are we supposed to applaud Stern's decision?"

And "why" Stern is suspending him should be plainly obvious - for being an idiot and breaking serious laws and rules in the process all the while making himself look like an asshat. Being a well paid star of the NBA he thus hurts the image of the NBA. Look at what Tiger Wood's sponsors did after his drama and that was legal.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

It's all about $. 99.999% of NBA decisions are based on money.

Can you prove some sort of evidence saying that letting Arenas continue to play was losing money?

[Findog]

Look at what Tiger Wood's sponsors did after his drama and that was legal.

Tiger's sponsors are cowards. It's one thing to quietly pull ads while the news-worthiness of that story runs to its conclusion, but to drop him altogether before his eventual professional rehabilitation is shortsighted.