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    Answer the questions...

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    Tony needs to get his priorities straight. He gets paid by San Antonio so his loyalty should be with the Spurs. Its admirable and understandable why he chose to play international ball, but sometimes, you have to know when to take a step back and re-evaluate yourself.

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    I'm sure the Spurs are not happy, there's no question about it. I'm sure they're not happy about the fact that the Luxury Tax exists either now that they have to pay it. I mean, it's there, it's part of the business, the rules, and you have to accept it, period.
    Luxury Tax = optional international play


    great comparison

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    To be honest, the pride these guys show to represent their NT for mere glory is just another sign of the high character guys this ball club has been proud of for a long time. Not saying you couldn't have one without the other, but you can't deny it's part of the same thing.
    I agree with that to some point, but the posts by many of the French fans in this very thread lead me to believe that Parker also plays because he's afraid of the reaction of a country that seems to feel he somehow "owes" them every summer of his NBA career, especially now that the USA is throwing 20 NBA all-stars at the international compe ion every year that can average 4 minutes each.

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    Luxury Tax = optional international play
    great comparison
    It's not optional to the team. Which begs the question, why are you still crying?

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    I agree with that to some point, but the posts by many of the French fans in this very thread lead me to believe that Parker also plays because he's afraid of the reaction of a country that seems to feel he somehow "owes" them every summer of his NBA career, especially now that the USA is throwing 20 NBA all-stars at the international compe ion every year that can average 4 minutes each.
    well, at least you're right if you meant that Tony is afraid that his absence of an international tournament with the french NT could be seen as a lack of loyalty by the french fans.

    which would be really unfair considering that from all the NBA french players, he was by far the most dedicated to the french NT.

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    Answer the questions...
    you're a joke bro

    I hope Manu retires with the Spurs. But if he does end up leaving the Spurs, then i will enjoy watching "fans" like you leave with him.

    We get it. Argentina has great basketball, great soccer, great music and hot chicks. Awesome. Go Argentina!



    Now wander along while Spurs fans talk about the Spurs.

    It's not optional to the team. Which begs the question, why are you still crying?
    It's optional to the player. I can't believe you make arguments like this.

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    Your pro-Argentina arguments are so tired.

    I'm here because i'm a Spurs fan. I'm here because i care about seeing the Spurs win. I'm not here to lobby for my country's (and the players associated with it) significance.
    You're here because you like to whine and moan. There's absolutely ZERO you can do about this as a Spur fan (other than whine and moan), and the reason is that the Spurs have absolutely ZERO power to do about it.

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    Not to mention all the meaningless games in the offseason...
    Sorry... I'm french and for me the French national teams are more important than the clubs (football, basket, hand...)
    The games in international tournament are all but meaningless, a France-Greece or Spain-Turkey or USA-Argentina are full of fever.
    And then you have the great Spurs-Nets, Spurs-Bucks... yeah right.
    Maybe you don't like your country, it's your right.
    For me international competions are the best.
    Seriously, 82 games before beginning to play the real compe ion. It's only for the dollars, you kill the basketball with things like that. In the end, the winner is not the most talented, it's the most healthy (lucky).

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    well, at least you're right if you meant that Tony is afraid that his absence of an international tournament with the french NT could be seen as a lack of loyalty by the french fans.

    which would be really unfair considering that from all the NBA french players, he was by far the most dedicated to the frecnh NT.
    That's exactly right. Has anyone done more for the French National team in recent years than Parker? It's possible that this interview is putting the idea out there to see how venomous the reaction is from his home country.

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    I hope Manu retires with the Spurs. But if he does end up leaving the Spurs, then i will enjoy watching "fans" like you leave with him.
    Unfortunately for you, I'm not going anywhere. I was a Spur fan before Manu came around and will be a Spur fan for life.

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    Sorry... I'm french and for me the French national teams are more important than the clubs (football, basket, hand...)
    And more important than the people who pay thousands of dollars for tickets to NBA games, and those who pay millions of dollars to professional athletes and expect them not to be burned out and beat up less than halfway into a season where they paid millions of dollars more to bring in talent to help them win.

    Sorry to break this to you, but the fact that it's more important to you doesn't mean it's more important to everyone. In fact, it doesn't even mean it's actually more important.

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    Unfortunately for you, I'm not going anywhere. I was a Spur fan before Manu came around and will be a Spur fan for life.
    ok

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    I agree with that to some point, but the posts by many of the French fans in this very thread lead me to believe that Parker also plays because he's afraid of the reaction of a country that seems to feel he somehow "owes" them every summer of his NBA career, especially now that the USA is throwing 20 NBA all-stars at the international compe ion every year that can average 4 minutes each.
    You don't understand international players. For internationals player, the greatest achievement in a sport career is to win something with your national team.
    And at the fact that Parker is "afraid" of the people reaction if he's not playing this summer for the FNT. If he doesn't want to play this summer, he will not !

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    We get it. Argentina has great basketball, great soccer, great music and hot chicks. Awesome. Go Argentina!
    What are you smoking bro, my Brasil has argentina beat in every single one of those categories (edit: except bball obv, forgot about that one lol)

    PS: I'm totally for players playing for national team, but once you realize it's affecting your club play (who's paying your bills lol), you gotta pull out. Manu pulled out too late, I hope that Parker doesn't take as long to realize this

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    And more important than the people who pay thousands of dollars for tickets to NBA games, and those who pay millions of dollars to professional athletes and expect them not to be burned out and beat up less than halfway into a season where they paid millions of dollars more to bring in talent to help them win.

    Sorry to break this to you, but the fact that it's more important to you doesn't mean it's more important to everyone. In fact, it doesn't even mean it's actually more important.
    YES. It's more important.

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    Good article. I think any debate about whether national team play hurts players can put to rest this season. Parker has obviously been tired all year and Pau Gasol has stayed gimpy. It's just not humanly possible to play that much basketball. I respect Parker's enthusiasm for playing for his home country -- but as a Spurs fan that enthusiasm lowers the team's chance of winning a championship ... and that's all I really care about.

    That said, I don't buy what Parker is saying. He's the master at playing both sides of the pond. He'll tell US reporters that he's thinking of not playing while telling French reporters something totally different. If I had to guess, he'll be suiting up next summer once again.

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    What are you smoking bro, my Brasil has argentina beat in every single one of those categories

    PS: I'm totally for players playing for national team, but once you realize it's affecting your club play (who's paying your bills lol), you gotta pull out. Manu pulled out too late, I hope that Parker doesn't take as long to realize this
    good luck in the next soccer world cup without kaka. he's the same age as Parker. i'm sure the brazilian fans will understand it.

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    good luck in the next soccer world cup without kaka. he's the same age as Parker. i'm sure the brasilian fans will understand it.
    It's different for football. It's a lot less stress, and much less physically demanding then basketball is. It's not even possible to compare the two in terms of this.

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    That's exactly right. Has anyone done more for the French National team in recent years than Parker? It's possible that this interview is putting the idea out there to see how venomous the reaction is from his home country.
    French experts and fans are surprised tony is playing all summers. I don't think the reactions would be that bad if he's not playing. And basketball is not that popular.

    And i'm all for him not playing with the NT every summer. He's been so dedicated to the team and hasn't had help from other players (mainly diaw). He deserves better.

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    It's different for football. It's a lot less stress, and much less physically demanding then basketball is. It's not even possible to compare the two in terms of this.


    talk about bad faith

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    Sorry to break this to you, but the fact that it's more important to you doesn't mean it's more important to everyone. In fact, it doesn't even mean it's actually more important.
    Actually, how important it is only matters to the player, who is the only one that has any decision power in the matter.

    The rest is irrelevant posturing...

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    The Spurs better start thinking about the back up PG position. If TP breaks down or needs 2-4 weeks of rest we will need a PG who can run the team with Hill. Maybe move Finley or Mason for a true PG. Hill could slide back to the SG slot when TP returns.

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    The Spurs better start thinking about the back up PG position. If TP breaks down or needs 2-4 weeks of rest we will need a PG who can run the team with Hill. Maybe move Finley or Mason for a true PG. Hill could slide back to the SG slot when TP returns.
    how sweet to think about tony's health. i'm sure you wouldn't mind this backup PG taking tp's job ultimately, would you ?

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    We hear this from Tony now, people have been telling him for years to knock this crap off. These guys should be banned from playing on these other teams as long as they are under NBA contracts. "You make 10 mil a year, oh well you have to sacrifice playing on your national team".. You don't like those rules, go play recreational in a gym somewhere for free.. If it means that much to you, what's the problem?? All these guys want it both ways..

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