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    Role players are interchangeable. I'm not talking about the 2009-10 Phoenix Suns specifically. I'm talking about Amare's potential to be a franchise player and force on both ends of the court.


    Antoni had a thing for killing potential. Joe Johnson got the chance to leave and go to a team that gave him the chance to develop individually rather than develop as a compliment to Steve Nash. If Amare continued to develop the way he was after his 2nd season he probably would have become close to a franchise player. Not really his fault. It was close to impossible for him to reach his potential and develop when Antoni was coach.

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    A lot of talk about Amare. Is he an all-star? Yeah.

    Is he a starter? No.

    Amare is the epitome "of all talk". Findog is right, he doesnt get it. Even my most die-hard Suns fans friends agree he's in his own world.

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    A lot of talk about Amare. Is he an all-star? Yeah.

    Is he a starter? No.

    Amare is the epitome "of all talk". Findog is right, he doesnt get it. Even my most die-hard Suns fans friends agree he's in his own world. He makes horrible decisions, doesnt rebound and hasnt made any improvements to his game in the last five years.

    He's not a max contract player as he cant lead a team. Im kind of sick of watching him and would do cartwheels if he was traded for a Bosh-esque player.

    Soooooooo last year the team being ty was Shaq's fault. Now that he's gone and the Suns still suck, it's Amare's fault. I'm curious, in the event Amare is traded and the Suns still suck, who's the new scapegoat? Taylor Griffin?

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    As bad as Amare is at defense Nash is way ing worse. 116 defensive rating which is almost a league low and historically terrible.

    What's Nash's excuse again? Stockton was a solid defender. Not great, just solid and really ing dirty.

    Nash is literally one of the worst defenders of all time. Without exaggeration.

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    What's Nash's excuse again?

    Amare. Everything that has ever gone wrong in Nash's career is Amare's fault.

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    As bad as Amare is at defense Nash is way ing worse. 116 defensive rating which is almost a league low and historically terrible.

    What's Nash's excuse again? Stockton was a solid defender. Not great, just solid and really ing dirty.

    Nash is literally one of the worst defenders of all time. Without exaggeration.
    Then why is it that the Suns keep giving up monster numbers to opposing teams forwards? Is it Nash's fault that the Suns got dominated inside on the recent roadtrip?

    -Indiana, Danny Granger had 33 points and Mike Duneavy had 30 points
    -Atanta, Al Horford had 24 points and Josh Smith had 20 points and 15 boards
    -Charlotte, Gerald Wallace had 29 points and 13 boards and Stephen Jackson had 29 points
    -Memphis, Rudy Gay had 31 points and Zach Randolph had 27 points

    Now you may ask what opposing point guards had against Nash on the roadtrip
    -Earl Watson had 14 points
    -Mike Bibby had 8 points
    -Raymond Felton had 10 points
    -Mike Conley had 5 points

    But keep peddling the myth that Nash's defense is the main problem.

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    Soooooooo last year the team being ty was Shaq's fault. Now that he's gone and the Suns still suck, it's Amare's fault. I'm curious, in the event Amare is traded and the Suns still suck, who's the new scapegoat? Taylor Griffin?
    Where did you get the idea that Suns fans are blaming Amare? Most of the criticism has been directed towards Steve Kerr for some terrible decisions. The players who are getting ripped mostly are Channing Frye, Jason Richardson and Leandro Barbosa. Their poor play in the last 15 games is a major reason for the Suns fall in the standings.

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    Seriously, Landry over Amare? Some people could argue that Amare shouldn't start, but to be off the entire all star roster? Amare is still getting around 9 rebounds and shooting 56% from the field, what's up with the Amare hate?

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    But keep peddling the myth that Nash's defense is the main problem.

    No one player/ one player's problem is the main problem. The main problem is that the team as a whole is full of limited, one dimensional players. Neither Amare nor Nash have had the biggest issues that last few games, the main issues have been at SG and SF. Idk why everyone always looks to blame one singular player/coach whenever the Suns struggle.

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    It's funny you post that as if you know more about a team you probably have watched once all year than someone who has watched almost every game. Idk how you're so sure who the Suns' main problem is on defense when you haven't watched all but 1 game this year. It's more or less the same thing as Spurfan saying Dirk sucks at D when they maybe watch 5 Dallas games all year.

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    I think another position should be created for the All Star game called "Not a Center." Therefore, Timmy can get in while also giving real Power Forwards a chance.

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    21-3 when they have their MVP? What a shock.
    Yeah because without your second best player and an All-star, the team should do better then 21-3.

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    It's funny you post that as if you know more about a team you probably have watched once all year than someone who has watched almost every game. Idk how you're so sure who the Suns' main problem is on defense when you haven't watched all but 1 game this year. It's more or less the same thing as Spurfan saying Dirk sucks at D when they maybe watch 5 Dallas games all year.
    Que? That video was a non sequitur.

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    Marc Gasol was the MVP of his league. Many here saw the talents of Marc Gasol and knew he would be a great player and said so back then. Nobody believed them and could only think "collusion"..
    As were Felipe Reyes, Jaun Carlos Navarro and Walter Hermann.

    It's like Kobe, the #13th pick was traded by the Hornets for Vlade Divacs, a proven player.

    The Lakers made out like Bandits although it didn't "seem" like it at the time but Jerry West knew he had gold. .
    Why did the Lakers take Sun Yue with their 40th pick then. They obviously rated him higher than Marc Gasol who went at 48. What about the other 29 teams that passed him.... 17 of them twice? Obviously 47 times other teams thought they could have gotten something better than a future 15-10-2 Center. You make it sound like he was a lock to be a 15-10-2 Center in the NBA.

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