The pill is where I draw the line because I see it as more of a contraceptive measure. It's at the very beginning of the cellular level.
If there was a way to make it so the only women allowed to get abortions were the ones who acted responsibly and just got unlucky or the ones who were raped, I'd support it, but there's not. A who got drunk and had sex with 5 guys in one night without a condom shouldn't ruin it for a girl who was raped.
They don't have to dumb . When a woman gets raped it's their right and duty to themselves to go to the ER, and file a report withe the police. When a woman goes to the hospital because of rape, they are begin testing for STDs, AND are given a rape kit which prevents formation of an embryo and subsequent baby.
So if they don't go to the ER for treatment, then they are carelessly choosing the possibility of pregnancy. That's just common ing sense..
In other news, a gay dating site comercial got turned down by the NFL. Care to defend their "rights" Dok?
Damn the sympathy you have towards women who are raped is just so heart warming.
Uptake of sperm by the egg BEGINS the LIFE CYCLE. That's basic science, hope your taking it at school
And a rape kit is used to collect evidence about the rape, it's got nothing to do with an embryo or baby. It checks for pregnancy (sometimes taking up to 2 weeks), but the rape kit does nothing to prevent pregnancy.
No rebuttle huh? Typical Dok.
where in my post did I say I didn't have sympathy? I have plenty of sympathy. I'm just pointing out you rape argument is moot in this day and age when a proper necessary trip to the hospital is required after rape
ahhh the ignorance. Included in a rape kit in a vaginal suppository that "takes care of it" Also, a day after pill is included as an extra precaution. I use to be CNA in the ER during college.
It's not that simple. Women who are raped aren't always mentally prepared to immediately go to the police and tell them what happened or go to hospital for a medical inspection. You can't expect someone who just went through something that physically and emotionally traumatic to be able to think clearly enough to do that immediately following the rape. Women shouldn't be required to immediately get tested for pregnancy after being raped.
lol other words, you haven't proven anything.Your points have been out of anger and your points are just repe ive bs that i already responded. I already responded to Anthony Randolph aka mono
lol, So that's why you can't have an abortion, because a sperm hit the egg it's automatically a human being? No wonder everyone on here picks on youUptake of sperm by the egg BEGINS the LIFE CYCLE. That's basic science, hope your taking it at schoolstupid erratic post you have
This idiot does realize that if it's a relative or someone close to the victim rapes her, you wouldn't want to go to the hospital cause they would threaten her if she ever did tell anyone about the incident. Spuronyourface, pretty please get some better arguments.
you are going to for your beliefs, and the fact that you're so upset about being told so means you must have some doubt in your beliefs.
why be consumed by hate for people who'd simply rather see you and everyone go to heaven rather than ?
hate the game not the players
I'm glad you think so. Next time don't bother to tell me so I can enjoy peacefully.
Not really. The same people who say I'm going to are the same people who used to say the world is flat.
where'd you get that line of drivel
where'd you get that line of drivel
It's not drivel, it's pretty basic information. Are you saying the Church didn't believe the Earth was flat and didn't deny it when scientists said it was round?
contrary to what you hear from your public education/indoctrination and from the shamelessly grant-seeking "scientific" community, Christians are not at odds with Science, we believe every proven scientific fact, and many scientific facts were even eluded to in the bible long before they were discovered.
you need to check your sources of information, and how they get their funding, is it big government? because Christianity and traditional family structure are big obstacles to growing Government.
contrary to what you hear from your public education/indoctrination and from the shamelessly grant-seeking "scientific" community, Christians are not at odds with Science, we believe every proven scientific fact, and many scientific facts were even eluded to in the bible long before they were discovered.
you need to check your sources of information, and how they get their funding, is it big government? because Christianity and traditional family structure are big obstacles to growing Government.
It had nothing to do with the bible. Simply put, Christian leaders denied the fact the world was round when they had no evidence to support their conclusion that the world was fact. I learned that in middle school, high school, and in a college class I took last year. It's undeniable.
So do I, unfortunately neither heaven nor are scientific fact. There's about as much scientific backing for heaven and as there is for a virtual world known as the matrix. You're allowed to believe in it, I'm allowed not to.
yep, some christian leaders were chosen to represent the entire opposition in public school history books
and they were wrong, but fortunately for them, being wrong didn't cause them to go to , you don't have the same luxury
there is little-to-nothing that can be proven about the afterlife, but we got here somehow, and so far Christianity has a lot more to stand on than the alternatives. the historical accounts in the Bible hold up uncannily well to all archeological discoveries and every new thing we discover about the distant past, to a point where it is very hard to believe it's just another book. there are also many good arguments to the world being quite young, since you have probably been taught the fact that we got here by way of billions and billions of lucky coincidences and mutations over the course of billions of years.
Rape is a very tramatic experience. You raise a good point here. When I worked in the ER and we had rape victims come in, we saw a wide range emotional responses from victimized women. It horrible what happend to them, but it is absolutely imperative that a women goes for treatment for collection of evidence, STD testing, and pregnancy prevention medication. It saves the women alot of stress later on. It provides evidence against the criminal so that justice may be served and it prevents an unwanted pregnancy.
But my argument against abortion isn't rooted in the morality or ethical realms of the debate. I even consider myself a moderate liberal. Its more rooted in just wanting people like careless s and dumbass guys who care not to strap on a condom, to just take responsibility for their actions. Thats all.
You think calling me and idiot and posting an incoherant post(like the one above) consists of "serious debate" that you claim you bring?This idiot does realize that if it's a relative or someone close to the victim rapes her, you wouldn't want to go to the hospital cause they would threaten her if she ever did tell anyone about the incident. Spuronyourface, pretty please get some better arguments.
At least I can respect Dok for bringing up the psychological aspect of rape that women face. All you bring to the table is name calling and incoherant posting that Im still trying to make sense of. I "does realize" what? What the are you trying to say. Something about a relative and threatning...Christ, make some sense.....You know what? On second thought, just take a seat Elmo.
Lol, okay, what if the person getting raped was someone close to her? YOU expect her to go to the hospital and get taken care of when the person might threaten her life if she ever told anyone? Most victims cannot have the ability to go to the hospital LIKE YOU SAID. Sorry for name calling, but your post are idiotic and i'm done talking to you cause your post do not make any sense what so ever. Who cares if it's a tissue? you just said just because a sperm went inside an egg, it's automatically living. Most things are living, like germs. Dont' want to get rid of germs because it's a living organism too? If you went to school you would know that kind of thing.You think calling me and idiot and posting an incoherant post(like the one above) consists of "serious debate" that you claim you bring?
At least I can respect Dok for bringing up the psychological aspect of rape that women face. All you bring to the table is name calling and incoherant posting that Im still trying to make sense of. I "does realize" what? What the are you trying to say. Something about a relative and threatning...Christ, make some sense.....You know what? On second thought, just take a seat Elmo.
yeah facts are bs. lol keep telling yourself that, you might actually believe it
Abortions are part of the reason Americans are so ing stupid, the smart ones get abortions and the stupid ones have like 7 kids
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