Amare to Cavs for Big Z and Hickson...

[Xylus]

Who is "you guys"? Plenty of Suns fans seem to want Amare gone. Not to mention your actual front office shops him around for real . I don't get your point, except that you can't admit you are wrong.

The Suns are shopping Amare for financial reasons, and that's it. 95% of the Suns fans I've talked to want Amare to stay, especially after they've heard what kind of offers the Suns are getting for him.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

The Suns are shopping Amare for financial reasons, and that's it. 95% of the Suns fans I've talked to want Amare to stay, especially after they've heard what kind of offers the Suns are getting for him.

Hey Screw Amare we could have 1st all developmental league center Ian "David Robinson" Mahinmi!!!

[Pistons < Spurs]

WojYahooNBA

GM's and agents expect flurry of activity Tuesday. Everyone was holding deck close today, including PHX and Cavs. Best offers are on way.

[badfish22]

STEIN_LINE_HQ Just filed to ESPN.com: Miami working H-A-R-D to recruit third team to trump Cleveland in Amare Sweepstakes.

[Xylus]

I'd much rather deal with Miami than Cleveland.

[badfish22]

STEIN_LINE_HQ: just filed an extensive piece on Cleveland adding Corey Maggette to its Amare fallback list

[poop]

i hope miami gets him.

[Findog]

Phoenix would be nuts to accept JJ Hickson and a soon to boomerang Z. You get cap relief and NOTHING else, not even draft picks. if you're going to give up a guy like Amare, you need cap relief, picks + a good, young player. Hickson is not enough to satisfy that third requirement.

[Findog]

i hope miami gets him.

So do I. Adding Amare won't get them past the second round in the East, and I'm pretty sure he'll opt-in for the final year of his contract, which means no cap space to sign LeBron. Amare may be dumb, but whoever his agent is will have a little more sense, and there's no reason to opt out of the final year with the looming 2011 lockout.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

So do I. Adding Amare won't get them past the second round in the East, and I'm pretty sure he'll opt-in for the final year of his contract, which means no cap space to sign LeBron. Amare may be dumb, but whoever his agent is will have a little more sense, and there's no reason to opt out of the final year with the looming 2011 lockout.

Son would Ian Mahinmi be enough?

[mojorizen7]

I'd much rather deal with Miami than Cleveland.

This. Any picks(and there'd better be picks involved) from CLEV aren't as potentially sweet as MIA picks.
Then there's the obvious factor of CLEV has nothing to offer that i want.

[Jeremy]

Since Heat are DESPERATE for Amare then we better get tons of picks, whatever talent we want, etc.

[Jeremy]

And maybe we can get Miami to take J-Rich, too!

[Xylus]

And maybe we can get Miami to take J-Rich, too!

That would be nice, but I don't see it happening. Unless the Heat want to start two SG's.

[Trainwreck2100]

Son would Ian Mahinmi be enough?

JAMES mother ing WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 moether er

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

Sons I'm trying to study for a business ethics test but I'd rather create hypothetical Amare trades

[21_Blessings]

Phoenix using the out Cleveland for leverage

[DPG21920]

All this talk about how I'm ignorant and wrong yet you don't give any reason why. If there are practical reasons he hasn't come over yet, there sure as are practical reasons why he won't be coming over next year. My only point was that it's funny Spurfan constantly talks about how good Mahinmi and Splitter are, yet never hesitates to involve them as filler in trades. The next David Robinson normally wouldn't be involved in a trade as filler.

You are failing so hard, but I don't want to drop the hammer quite yet. I want to see how far you will actually go when you don't know what you are talking about.

There are practical reasons why he did not come last year, but why he could likely come this year.

Also, you are greatly over exaggerating Spurs fans affection for Ian & Tiago. Ian has shown some very exciting flashes, along with mind-boggling missteps. Same with Splitter (except he is doing very well as a pro). No one talks about them being the next David Robinson, but Spurs fans would like to see Ian get time to see what they have. They would like Tiago, because he has a skillset the Spurs need. No one knows how good they will be, just like when you draft someone (Robin Lopez for example). Does that mean you cannot ever speculate?

Yes, they still are very useful as a filler in trades for multiple reasons and plenty of teams have traded for nothing more than the allure of "upside". You know nothing of Ian or Tiago and just because you use hyperbole to try and sound funny, does not make what you say correct.

[duncan228]

Twitter.

Amare Stoudemire: I play very well w/Shaq. I averaged more pts last year WITH him & played better D. You guys can stop saying we don’t play well together.

[angelbelow]

So is this trade Official yet?

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

You are failing so hard, but I don't want to drop the hammer quite yet. I want to see how far you will actually go when you don't know what you are talking about.

There are practical reasons why he did not come last year, but why he could likely come this year.

Also, you are greatly over exaggerating Spurs fans affection for Ian & Tiago. Ian has shown some very exciting flashes, along with mind-boggling missteps. Same with Splitter (except he is doing very well as a pro). No one talks about them being the next David Robinson, but Spurs fans would like to see Ian get time to see what they have. They would like Tiago, because he has a skillset the Spurs need. No one knows how good they will be, just like when you draft someone (Robin Lopez for example). Does that mean you cannot ever speculate?

Yes, they still are very useful as a filler in trades for multiple reasons and plenty of teams have traded for nothing more than the allure of "upside". You know nothing of Ian or Tiago and just because you use hyperbole to try and sound funny, does not make what you say correct.

Thanks for proving my point. They are both good for filler in trades but nothing more. Sorry you're butt hurt that nobody wants the Spurs' garbage prospects that you guys constantly talk about. And please, enlighten me on what those practical reasons are. You're right, I have no idea about Tiago Splitter, and I don't really care to know about Tiago Splitter. All I know is the past several off seasons have supposed to have been the off seasons he comes over, and he wound up not. I'm sure there is a "practical reason" why he might not come over next season.

Mahinmi was drafted in 2005 and has played in 12 career games. You get a pretty good gauge of how good a player will/won't be when they're in and out of the D-league.

Nice try making it sound like there's so much to learn about two players who have played a combined 69 NBA minutes.

[DPG21920]

Thanks for proving my point. They are both good for filler in trades but nothing more. Sorry you're butt hurt that nobody wants the Spurs' garbage prospects that you guys constantly talk about. And please, enlighten me on what those practical reasons are. You're right, I have no idea about Tiago Splitter, and I don't really care to know about Tiago Splitter. All I know is the past several off seasons have supposed to have been the off seasons he comes over, and he wound up not. I'm sure there is a "practical reason" why he might not come over next season.

Mahinmi was drafted in 2005 and has played in 12 career games. You get a pretty good gauge of how good a player will/won't be when they're in and out of the D-league.

Nice try making it sound like there's so much to learn about two players who have played a combined 69 NBA minutes.

What is your point , that you are wrong and they are useful in trades? That no one calls them the next DRob except you?

Why would I be butthurt? Where have you ever seen me act like those guys could bring in a high caliber player straight up? Show me where anyone seriously says that Ian or Tiago can bring back high quality NBA players in context.

No, you can't get a good guage on a player unless he plays. That is the exact point of debate between Spurs fans with Ian. They want him to get minutes when it makes sense, so you truly can know what you have. You spin that into "Spurs fans act like they have Wilt". It is just a garbage take.

LMFAO at Ian being "in and out of the D-League". He is only 23 years old and could still be in college. He dominated the D-League and missed his chance with the big boys so far because of injury and bad coaching. Call it what you will, but it is far from the hyperbole you spew.

There is plenty to learn about Tiago (see Scola, Casspi & other potential good foreign players). Do you not know about foreign prospects? He is a pro in a good league and he is a young big. Of course there is something to learn, especially if you follow prospects.

at you begging to be enlightened about the "practical reasons". Either do your research and be educated on what you are arguing about, or don't argue. Don't just walk around like you actually know something. Just say, I don't know wtf I am talking about and move on. Instead you will try and slander any and everything because you are indeed a hater.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

What is your point , that you are wrong and they are useful in trades? That no one calls them the next DRob except you?

Why would I be butthurt? Where have you ever seen me act like those guys could bring in a high caliber player straight up? Show me where anyone seriously says that Ian or Tiago can bring back high quality NBA players in context.

No, you can't get a good guage on a player unless he plays. That is the exact point of debate between Spurs fans with Ian. They want him to get minutes when it makes sense, so you truly can know what you have. You spin that into "Spurs fans act like they have Wilt". It is just a garbage take.

LMFAO at Ian being "in and out of the D-League". He is only 23 years old and could still be in college. He dominated the D-League and missed his chance with the big boys so far because of injury and bad coaching. Call it what you will, but it is far from the hyperbole you spew.

There is plenty to learn about Tiago (see Scola, Casspi & other potential good foreign players). Do you not know about foreign prospects? He is a pro in a good league and he is a young big. Of course there is something to learn, especially if you follow prospects.

at you begging to be enlightened about the "practical reasons". Either do your research and be educated on what you are arguing about, or don't argue. Don't just walk around like you actually know something. Just say, I don't know wtf I am talking about and move on. Instead you will try and slander any and everything because you are indeed a hater.

Cool story bro. This essay you wrote is how I know you're butt hurt. Props to Mahinmi for dominating the D-league. I wonder why Matt Carroll never plays since he won D-league MVP.

[DUNCANownsKOBE2]

PS - I asked for you to reveal these "practical reasons", why haven't you done so?

[DPG21920]

Cool story bro. This essay you wrote is how I know you're butt hurt. Props to Mahinmi for dominating the D-league. I wonder why Matt Carroll never plays since he won D-league MVP.

at this hater right here. Matt Carroll is 23 and 6'11? Just because you spew throw away lines like "cool story bro" & "butthurt" & "Ian "Robinson" Mahinimi" does not make what you say true. You just look like a walking internet cliche.

I can do this to, watch. I can tell you are butthurt because you keep replying to me. Someone who is not butthurt about being wrong would just let it go.

PS - I asked for you to reveal these "practical reasons", why haven't you done so?

at you begging to be enlightened about the "practical reasons". Either do your research and be educated on what you are arguing about, or don't argue. Don't just walk around like you actually know something. Just say, I don't know wtf I am talking about and move on. Instead you will try and slander any and everything because you are indeed a hater.

Continued...I can tell you are butthurt about looking foolish again, like usual, arguing just to argue. Just like on the Arenas gun charge . It does not get more butthurt than begging someone for information and writing things like "ps". You have proven you don't know what the you are talking about, so just give it up and quit acting butthurt.

If you want to argue something, you don't ask the person you are arguing with to do research for you. Either you know something or you don't. Why can't you look it up on your own? You seem to be confident that you are right and are willing to argue with someone at length about it like you know wtf is going on?