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    The way I see it, he came here played well in stretches, knocked down some good shots for us, and got his ring. Now this year the Spurs are playing like crap (compared to our better years) so Pop keeps juggling his lineup, half the team gets inconsistent minutes, Mason and Fin are getting frustrated, Theo too probably. However for Finley he was playing mediocre basketball, gets hurt, then can't even buy a basket, looks even slower.. he's done. He wants out, Spurs are better off, so I'm glad. None of the Spurs including Pop should be too surprised, it's been a frustrating year the way they've lost so many games already.

    Pop needs to realize he can't rely on these old guys so much, not when all the younger athletic players in the NBA are improving their overall game. Spurs need to continue to shed dead weight and load up on guys who are hungry and bring that swagger we desperately need.

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    Players, like Finley, who do even one thing during their entire career to make less money than they otherwise could are a rarity.

    They get a lifetime exemption, in my book, from the typical fan laments about how players are way too disloyal and just out for themselves, and, the real doozy -- they don't "love the team" as much as the fans do.

    It's easy to jump on a guy when he asks to leave. Finley's not a saint, but overall, he's a pretty good guy -- one who has been very much underappreciated by Spurs' fans for quite a while.
    He already was one of the highest paid players in the league. He's super rich and he gets a ring. I don't see anything exceptional about his actions or at udes. He got more than he deserved. I suppose we don't have to attack him but going out of the way to praise is a bit much for me.

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    You guys never let anything go, do you?

    He's gone.

    Be happy for once.
    Finally, someone to teach us how to be happy.

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    Players, like Finley, who do even one thing during their entire career to make less money than they otherwise could are a rarity.

    They get a lifetime exemption, in my book, from the typical fan laments about how players are way too disloyal and just out for themselves, and, the real doozy -- they don't "love the team" as much as the fans do.

    It's easy to jump on a guy when he asks to leave. Finley's not a saint, but overall, he's a pretty good guy -- one who has been very much underappreciated by Spurs' fans for quite a while.
    Agreed. I'm surprised at the level of bitterness in this forum as well. Way too much is being made of the way he is leaving and his performance the last two seasons. Zero credit for the first two and the championship. It's a little ridiculous.

    Thankfully, he pulled the plug on his time here...good for both parties. Of course he thinks he can still play-he's a compe or. If Pop or anyone else is taking the opportunity to take veiled shots on his way out the door, it's weak. The Spurs got far bigger problems this year than that guy. Much to do about nothing.

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    pop's just deserts for forsaking bowen in favor of a washed finley last year.
    F U Pop.

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    The more I read of Chump dumpster guy the more I see he really has nothing to contribute.

    "they make more money" that is piratically a moot point. everybody has the same cap, the cap is theoretically designed to keep a team solvent. The Spurs have been a winning franchise for 15 plus years. Even Articles in Forbes mention this.
    They also mention those other teams make more money.

    sa is not a "media market yada yada yada, blah blah blah"

    He types this drivel has he watches the team from AUSTIN, and I watch the team from CORPUS.

    What ever the "market" is more than adequate
    People watch from Argentina and France, are they included in the San Antonio media market?

    Yes or no.

    The reasons the Spurs are down skidding have more to do with poor personnel moves and very suspect coaching philosophy's
    I don't dispute they have an impact.

    Media market blach. the fact is that there are only 5 spots for megga Media types in any sport and the NBA is no exception. When you get past Lebron, Kobe, and fill in the rest. The off court potential income is nothing more than an agent blowing smoke up peoples asses...kinda like Chumpster(along with his own)
    It's a very real thing. Remember why Elton Brand passed on San Antonio?

    Sure is great to see Pop get spooged in the face by a "Pop GUy" but is tragic its at the expense of Bowen and god knows how much to the detriment of developing or acquiring younger talent.
    Money issues aren't as fun as getting spooged in the face is to you, but they exist and only idiots pretend they don't.

    With all this circle Jerking Talk with the Chumpdumster clique on spurs talk I see no one as mentioned the fact that Apparently there is interest in Fin and we can see what Theo is doing and the Spurs let the Trade deadline come and go and have nothing to show but to hold there own s..
    I already said the Spurs actually want most of the expiring contracts to expire. You aren't good at reading.

    You'd think a competent organization would have gotten a draft consideration for a 2nd round(we know how lucky the team has been in those aspects) and some rites to some foreign dude..
    It was salary dump. There was no other consideration.

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    Finally, someone to teach us how to be happy.
    I'm not expecting anyone to learn anything here.

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    I'm not expecting anyone to learn anything here.

    These people can barely ing read anymore are u kidding me?

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    These people can barely ing read anymore are u kidding me?
    But a dude in Corpus watches the Spurs!

    CORPUS!

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    But a dude in Corpus watches the Spurs!

    CORPUS!

    I heard some dude watches em in junction too. I mean, lebron would be salivating if only he knew!

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    If you put San Antonio and New Braunfels and Corpus and Junction together, we're bigger than Sacramento!

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    If you put San Antonio and New Braunfels and Corpus and Junction together, we're bigger than Sacramento!
    so your sayin we have a shot at signing mikki Moore! Sweet....

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    Lol @ tpark and chump making love

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    Lol @ tpark and chump making love
    lol @ your projecting.

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    Their franchises make more money.
    Because they care about more than just the bottom line.
    Um.....no.

    Caring about the bottom line is what makes you the most profitable. In the case of Cubes and Buss, it's about putting an entertaining package out on the floor and in the community.

    Plus, you have to consider the market as well. San Antonio isn't exactly a hotbed when it comes to getting out and spending money. We're notoriously stingy.

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    Brickley should of been gone after the 07 championship....been a long time coming. I won't miss him.

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    Maybe Finley doesn't think the Spurs are real contenders - maybe he doesn't care because he doesn't want a ring while riding the pine like Mitch Richmond... whatever... We didn't need Fin anymore... that's all there is to it. He was a defensive liability, and with the way he was shooting - an offensive one as well. Good luck and all that, but woopty-friggin-doo who cares why he left...

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    Um.....no.

    Caring about the bottom line is what makes you the most profitable. In the case of Cubes and Buss, it's about putting an entertaining package out on the floor and in the community.

    Plus, you have to consider the market as well. San Antonio isn't exactly a hotbed when it comes to getting out and spending money. We're notoriously stingy.
    The "stingy" types have no problems getting out to spend their Jerry Jone money when the cowboys are in town for training camp. Why do you think that is? Jerry is a very smart business man and knows his product dominates even a one-horse town like SA. Imagine the possibilities if someone like Jerry were runnin' the Spurs.

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    So you can see that Dallas clearly makes more money than the Spurs.

    It's called revenue.

    Very clever of you to try to avoid that.

    Cuban just happens to spend it all. It is not his goal to make a profit off the team. It's nice to have an owner like that, but they are definitely not the norm.


    Your graph does not say anything about this season, when everyone knows revenues are down and the Spurs expenses went way up. did you know that revenues are down and expenses are up?

    Yes or no.

    I notice you didn't post the numbers for the Lakers or Celtics?

    Why is that?

    Please explain your decision to omit those.

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    San Antonio is not heaven and Pop is not God. I hope this gives the brass a little reality check and perspective, when a pro such as Finley wants out. Fin won't be missed though.

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    only one of those is a contender in large part due to the gerrymandering(look it up if you don't know what that means turd) by the league, Buss, and Jerry West.

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    your comments were specifically about Dallas and The Lakers. You are so ing wrong about the Mavericks its NOT laughable but you are. Now you are arguing the about Revenue LOL. They LOOSE money.
    After making more money. You want businessmen to want to lose money. It usually doesn't work that way. If you actually listen to Cuban talk, he will say that he works to break even with the Mavs, but I'm sure you don't listen to anything but the voices in your head driving you on.
    Another turd, Maybe you, mention Elton Brand signing with Philadelphia.
    Yes, not San Antonio. Why was that? Please explain.

    By posting the FACTS I am illustrating how FACTS mean nothing when it comes to you and your cliques re ed missives. You know what the biggest revenue generator are the nicks the bulls and the lakers
    Because they are in the largest media markets -- thanks for proving me right with FACTS!
    and only one of those is a contender in large part due to the gerrymandering(look it up if you don't know what that means turd) by the league, Buss, and Jerry West.
    OK, let's look it up:

    Main Entry: gerrymander
    Function: transitive verb
    Inflected Form(s): gerrymandered; gerrymander·ing\-d(ə-)riŋ\
    Date: 1812

    1 : to divide (a territorial unit) into election districts to give one political party an electoral majority in a large number of districts while concentrating the voting strength of the opposition in as few districts as possible
    2 : to divide (an area) into political units to give special advantages to one group <gerrymander a school district>
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...gerrymandering

    So tell us all how Buss and West divided areas into political units or districts.

    Be specific.

    Facts mean nothing to you but good day Chumpdumpster
    Facts mean quite a bit. Tell me what the facts are concerning revenues in the NBA. Are they going up or down?

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    Maybe Ladanian Tomlinson and Mike Finley can start up a team that contributes to a Championship. Michael Finley got tons of minutes last year. He should have walked when he had a chance at the end of last year. Instead, he took the $$ and then pulled a fast one when he wasn't getting any playing time.

    I'm fine with him leaving. I'd just like to see Hairston get some more minutes.

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    And the Spurs have done quite well in that respect, working on a different level than big market teams.

    San Antonio is not the 7th largest metropolitan area or media market, not by a long shot. That's Dallas/Ft. Worth.
    close but still nope, the DFW area is actually 6th largest nipping at the heels of philadelphia.

    the san antonio metro is not 'small town' by any means but is still hovering around 30th largest in the country...i hate when people roll out the city limits numbers as if they mean anything. san antonio may be 7 or whatever but your right in reality its nowhere near that, and the market size is even lower than 30 probably because there are several other large cities-with their own teams-in a relatively near vicinity.

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    your are so pathetic man in the scheme of things 133 millions isn't that much different from 150 million
    So you can make up that difference, right? Pocket change for you.

    and if you READ re they tell you that ticket sales are down.
    That was last season. What about this season?

    And its not even WORTH explaining anything to you about Elton Brand(injured player before signing inured player after signing, Philadelphia had cap room ect ect ect.)...
    Other teams also had cap room.

    What facts re about revenue. that they make more revenue because of the market? Is that an issue? They dont win.
    No .

    And as far ass explaining an analogy to you, that is information you should have gotten in a basic public education re .
    You need to explain gerrymandering and how Buss and West did it (especially West since he wasn't employed by either the Lakers or Grizzlies at the time of the Gasol trade.

    Quick Quick go back to TIMVP for more information to regurgitate.
    I haven't seen him talking about the financial situation in some time. You seem to be confused.

    You start going off on tangents in every thread you post in. This thread is no exception.
    You brought up gerrymandering. I aked you to explain yourself after providing the dictionary definition and you start melting down. Not my problem.

    and your tangents have no basis in facts, realty, or normality
    How did Buss and West gerrymander the NBA?

    "Cuban says he breaks even." even though Dallas is like 300 mil in the hole according to Forbes. READ RE READ
    According to Forbes. You know that they don't use actual numbers from the franchises, don't you?

    Would you say that Forbes knows better about the Mavs' finances than the owner of the Mavs?

    Yes or no.

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