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    Rod Thorn is calling the shots in New Jersey. He is no dummy (traded Marbury for Kidd a few years back) so swindling Thorn isn't going to be easy.

    I see no way in the Spurs get the #3 pick and another player back for Tony Parker.

    Something like this maybe.

    Spurs Get:

    #3 pick
    Devin Harris

    Nets Get:

    Tony Parker
    Tiago Splitter
    Rights to: De Colo

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    Rod Thorn is calling the shots in New Jersey. He is no dummy (traded Marbury for Kidd a few years back) so swindling Thorn isn't going to be easy.

    I see no way in the Spurs get the #3 pick and another player back for Tony Parker.

    Something like this maybe.

    Spurs Get:

    #3 pick
    Devin Harris

    Nets Get:

    Tony Parker
    Tiago Splitter
    Rights to: De Colo
    That would be better. However, Nets GM Rod Thorn has a way of being able to smell blood - especially if he knows a team is desparate. He's got a reputation for being very shrewd. See the J-Kidd trade to the Mavs, where he literally fleeced them for their draft picks.

    Thorn is no dummy. He knows that if Splitter spurs the Spurs, they will be desparate for a big. Therefore, expect him to also ask for the Spurs #20 pick in return for the other assets mentioned.

    That said, that would be a deal-breaker for me. No way would I give that up in this scenario. Parker is a all-star player, former Finals MVP and future HOFer. Spurs should be careful not to give up too much if they're willing to risk giving up Parker in a trade.

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    From past interviews it sounded like Parker is expecting to get paid in his next contract. I can't see him in the long range post Duncan team. Especially for Pop who would prefer to build a foundation around defense. I can see the FO pursuing this trade. If they do nothing our realistic goal next year is not a le but getting into the playoffs.

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    The ONLY reason that I wouldn't mind trading TP is the injuries he had this past season, to that add the fact that he turned pro when he was 16. That's way too many minutes under his belt, he may be a bit older than we all think.

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    Rod Thorn is calling the shots in New Jersey. He is no dummy (traded Marbury for Kidd a few years back) so swindling Thorn isn't going to be easy.

    I see no way in the Spurs get the #3 pick and another player back for Tony Parker.

    Something like this maybe.

    Spurs Get:

    #3 pick
    Devin Harris

    Nets Get:

    Tony Parker
    Tiago Splitter
    Rights to: De Colo


    If Splitter makes it known that his intentions are to make the transition to the NBA, I would try to avoid including him in such a proposed deal. And if they insisted on Splitter, I'd turn them down. Splitter is as just as valuable as any big man in the draft except a lot more polished and ready to contribute IMO. It's hard to come by a skilled 7 footer like Splitter in the first place, which only makes his value that much higher (if he is coming over this upcoming season).

    Of course some big men in the draft might have a higher ceiling (Favors), but he would be just as valuable as Splitter these next 2-3 years. Spurs downgrading to Devin Harris and then making a sideways move at least for the next 2 years by trading Splitter for Favors (if Splitter comes over) doesn't improve the Spurs.IMO


    When it comes down to it, I don't think Thorn agrees to the deal unless Parker agrees to sign for the long-term. At the same time I don't think Parker signs for the long-term, unless a big name free agent signs there anytime after July 8th. Which makes the trade very unlikely because the trade would have to happen before free agency.

    But if we are playing the trade scenario game, I'd be willing to part with Parker, Blair and/or #20 and the rights to Colo.

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    Tony Parker
    Blair
    #20 Pick
    Rights to De Colo


    For

    Harris
    #3 Pick (Derrick Favors)

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    Harris/Hill
    Manu/MLE
    Jefferson/Hairston
    Duncan/Favors
    Splitter/Mcdyess

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    Tony Parker
    Blair
    #20 Pick
    Rights to De Colo


    For

    Harris
    #3 Pick (Derrick Favors)

    ----

    Harris/Hill
    Manu/MLE
    Jefferson/Hairston
    Duncan/Favors
    Splitter/Mcdyess
    Teams only get one MLE. Signing Splitter will require all or most of the MLE.

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    I think we should settle down a bit on this thread. Nothing is gonna happen until the draft comes and rolls by, so lets just wait.
    It's nice to hear that the spurs are active in the combine, but nothing is certain.
    I'm use Spiltter will have a hand in this when it is all said and done.

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    If Splitter makes it known that his intentions are to make the transition to the NBA, I would try to avoid including him in such a proposed deal. And if they insisted on Splitter, I'd turn them down. Splitter is as just as valuable as any big man in the draft except a lot more polished and ready to contribute IMO. It's hard to come by a skilled 7 footer like Splitter in the first place, which only makes his value that much higher (if he is coming over this upcoming season).

    Of course some big men in the draft might have a higher ceiling (Favors), but he would be just as valuable as Splitter these next 2-3 years. Spurs downgrading to Devin Harris and then making a sideways move at least for the next 2 years by trading Splitter for Favors (if Splitter comes over) doesn't improve the Spurs.IMO


    When it comes down to it, I don't think Thorn agrees to the deal unless Parker agrees to sign for the long-term. At the same time I don't think Parker signs for the long-term, unless a big name free agent signs there anytime after July 8th. Which makes the trade very unlikely because the trade would have to happen before free agency.

    But if we are playing the trade scenario game, I'd be willing to part with Parker, Blair and/or #20 and the rights to Colo.
    At this point, Splitter is an uncertain. I guess we'll know in about month whether or not he'll be coming. Regardless of that, there no way in I would part with Blair - in any scenario. I'd just as soon deal Splitter or his rights. That's not saying that Blair is more valuable or vice versa. It's just the Spurs KNOW what they have in him. Splitter is a virtual unknown commodity.

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    If it were possible to make the trade for the third pick without giving up Blair or splitter, why wouldn't it be possible to still have splitter come over? To get lucky and draft favors and have splitter and Blair!? That's one of a future front court. I ask cause people make it seem that if splitter comes then this trade wouldn't be necessary. I think no matter what if it's possible then do it.

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    At this point, Splitter is an uncertain. I guess we'll know in about month whether or not he'll be coming. Regardless of that, there no way in I would part with Blair - in any scenario. I'd just as soon deal Splitter or his rights. That's not saying that Blair is more valuable or vice versa. It's just the Spurs KNOW what they have in him. Splitter is a virtual unknown commodity.
    I realize these scenarios are 99% BS but blair is a known commidity at this point which means he is an undersized pf, plays hard, great rebounder, below average defense (cause of his size), very little offensive game outside the lane, good passer. You make him sound untradable again, why? Look I love the kid, but if he helps us get bigger and younger at the same time i'm all for it.

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    Cousins is fat-16.5% body fat, 3-4 inchs shorter than Drob, not an athlete and does not play hard most of the time. This guy has Eddie Curry written all over him.

    No one is fighting over him, dude cant even speak well. They say his interviews are going real bad and that he could see his self fall into the early teens on draftnigth. The guys isnt even as good as Brook Lopez and he went 10th. I think when all is said and done he falls between 8-14
    Not surprising at all. This justifies the rumblings about both his motor and his desire. He probably did the Spurs a favor by passing on the interview request.

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    Cousins is fat-16.5% body fat, 3-4 inchs shorter than Drob, not an athlete and does not play hard most of the time. This guy has Eddie Curry written all over him.

    No one is fighting over him, dude cant even speak well. They say his interviews are going real bad and that he could see his self fall into the early teens on draftnigth. The guys isnt even as good as Brook Lopez and he went 10th. I think when all is said and done he falls between 8-14
    You're kidding right? I hope so. Cousins is the real deal. Let me give you another center prospect that couldnt speak clearly. His name was Shaq.

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    Tony Parker
    Blair
    #20 Pick
    Rights to De Colo


    For

    Harris
    #3 Pick (Derrick Favors)

    ----

    Harris/Hill
    Manu/MLE
    Jefferson/Hairston
    Duncan/Favors
    Splitter/Mcdyess
    There is no way we would give up that much. Stop it, rook.

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    Georgia Tech's Favors: Spurs are trying to get me
    By Jeff McDonald on May 21, 10 08:50 PM

    http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...techs-f-1.html
    So, for all you noobs, this means we absolutely aren't looking at Favors at all. CIAPop in effect.

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    Dont be so sure, Doug Collins loves TP and they may wanna get a vet pg to run that team. TP for the second pick and Iggy who Philly wants to dump anyway would work for both teams. Philly would get loads of cap room in 2011 if they wanted to and would get a very good pg who would make them a much better team right now.
    Who would run point for us then? I would rather do Jefferson's expiring for Iggy and the #2, but I doubt there's any way the 76ers do that.

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    Maybe plan B or C if Splitter doesn't pan out and Ian is no longer available?
    I see this option as unlikely. But you have to explore everything out there.

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    The Spurs know it; and that's why their due diligence means more than "not skipping steps" these days.
    This line reminded me of a Harvey article.

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    This line reminded me of a Harvey article.
    I'm worried I might be his illegitimate, degenerate spawn. I'm literally a sick bas .

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    I think when it is all said and done this will end up another 20 pages of meaningless banter - but the biggest thing I take out if this is the FO is not looking to just hold pat and sign a few cheap contracts to fill out roster - this tells me despite being in a tight money situation they are exploring any/all options to improve this team even those that are very unlikely to ever materialize - If the FO pulls off any type of big move this summer you have to give them kudos even if you don't necessarily like the move personally - given the teams limited window, the cap restraints, and the failed Jefferson experiment - I am extremely happy to hear the FO being active and maybe exploring a few "outside the box" ideas.

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    Agreed but I am such a spurs fan I love the what ifs.......I do think the FO knows the window is almost closed and will be active this offseason. I think they need more than one young player to get it done we need a post guy who can not only play with TD but post up and score as well every now and then......and we need a big wing who can shot the 3 and spell Manu and RJ.
    Definitely not discrouaging the what if scenario - hey its a long summer and until the draft thats all we really have - next season is too far away - I sincerely hope the FO finds a way to make big splash - even in the worse case scenario its hard to imagine we won't at least have a couple more athletic role players surrounding the Big 3, plus improved Hill and Blair - but without big move it is tough even as a fan to really feel like we can contend for a championship

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    I think Hill runs the point, he did very well with TP out of the lineup, I also think Pops love the Ball in Manus hands in the half court because Manu is such a creator.

    Spurs could also look to sign a vet pg in FA or draft one...pg in our system is not that important all you have to do is advance the ball past half court. And while I love TP he does dominate the ball alot and I think that hurts us at times.

    Hey RJ for Iggy and number two I would love it but I dont see much in it for Philly
    Hill's a shooting guard and limiting him to the point only reduces his overall potential. Also, you simply cant run Manu at the point 30+ minutes a night for an entire season.

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    Hi can someone post the Derrick Favors/San Antonio Spurs portion of insider on ESPN..

    link is here...

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/featu...tures%2frumors

    led "San Antonio's Plan B"

    thanks....

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    Dude... Spurs talk IS the insider.

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    Hi can someone post the Derrick Favors/San Antonio Spurs portion of insider on ESPN..

    link is here...

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/featu...tures%2frumors

    led "San Antonio's Plan B"

    thanks....
    I'm guessing it has to do with Favors saying that the spurs want him and that he would be Plan B if Splitter doesn't come over.

    I am pretty sure it's that.
    Look around in the forum, you'll find what you're looking for.

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