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  1. #76
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    Because other reporters are getting all the bull from World Wide Wes first.
    I hope Steve in Toledo murders World Wide Wes. I hate that guy.

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    btw until you provide a link I call bull .

    I bet it was a "Cleveland wouldn't want to do a s/t" rather than a solid "Cleveland will not do a s/t"

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    in this LeBron cluster of activity, every reporter's gotta come up with some bull of their own or risk looking like the guy with his thumb up his ass.

    It makes perfect sense that, considering Adrian Wojnajriojerklsjiski is getting all the insider info before anyone else, that Ric Bucher would have to put his name out there and come up with some bull like this, just like his "Jerry Buss is extremely close to pulling the trigger on a Jason Terry/Josh Howard for Kobe deal"

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    btw until you provide a link I call bull .

    I bet it was a "Cleveland wouldn't want to do a s/t" rather than a solid "Cleveland will not do a s/t"


    I saw it on sportscenter, and the headline was def. along the lines of Cleveland will not do a s/t. I'll be looking for a link and posting it when I find it, but I did not make this up.

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    lol i've got a link

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5338472

    Sources said James remains committed to fielding free-agent pitches from several teams when free agency officially opens Thursday at 12:01 a.m. ET, with the Chicago Bulls continuing to rank as a highly appealing destination and a return to Cleveland still figuring prominently in his thinking and with the Dallas Mavericks looming as an intriguing outsider.
    complete and utter bull from Chris Broussard (I'm disappointed Marc Stein also put his name on this bull , but I guess he needs to get in on the cluster too). complete. and. utter. bull .

    but at least I have a link.

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    Best link I can provide so far (lol but it proves I'm not makign this up)

    http://www.fantasysp.com/columns/nba...sign_and_trade

    http://www.fantasysp.com/player/nba/..._James/1012839

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    Here is a legit link:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...-news-for-mavs

    Basically re-assuring everything I said about image.

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    All these attention s in the media are gonna start coming with the "I have a good source that says...etc" hahaha is funny

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    Here is a legit link:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...-news-for-mavs

    Basically re-assuring everything I said about image.
    If Rick Bucher's sources are correct
    The day that happens is the day I grow an asshole on my elbow.

    the Cavaliers have no intention
    Doesn't mean they won't do it.

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    Doesn't mean they won't do it.
    Sup allanon

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    ric bucher

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    Ric Bucher himself says in the clip, "Sources say the Cavs will not do a sign and trade" (that's a verbatim quote), questioning Ric Bucher because of his past "sources" is one thing, but he's undoubtedly making a definite statement that the Cavs are not doing a sign and trade.

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    not intending to do something and definitively stating that you absolutely will not do something are two different things. It's not semantics.

    And if the Cavs really won't do it, they'll come right out and say it. They don't need to pussyfoot around this.

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    I'm not gonna lie, I know this will make me look re ed but for like a second there I thought Mono was Allanon and that he was a true mindblowing internet badass.

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    sign n trade doesnt make sense for them, why help the get a max contract bigger then what other team can offer, while they have to get players in return who they might not need just to match the trade contracts... that...

    it makes sense if it was for draft picks, but other then that fck that

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    I'm not gonna lie, I know this will make me look re ed but for like a second there I thought Mono was Allanon and that he was a true mindblowing internet badass.
    tbh it would be beneath my trolling standards to say have the re ed crap that Allanon has said. And we all know my trolling standards aren't exactly distinguished.

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    It would be stupid if Cavs knew James would walk and didn't do a sign and trade, then again if they don't like the deal and would like it better to see him walk then I guess it's ok.

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    It would be stupid if Cavs knew James would walk and didn't do a sign and trade, then again if they don't like the deal and would like it better to see him walk then I guess it's ok.
    Do the Cavs have a mystical connection into LeBron's mind to know he's not bluffing them? They might as well go down with the ship, because no matter what they'd realistically get in exchange for James in a potential deal, you're looking at a sure lottery team. Daring him to take less and walk on his own makes even more sense this year, since the CBA is going to be re-negotiated next summer and probably won't allow James to ever get paid like he would for that potential 6th year he'd lose not signing with Cleveland.

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    sign n trade doesnt make sense for them, why help the get a max contract bigger then what other team can offer, while they have to get players in return who they might not need just to match the trade contracts... that...

    it makes sense if it was for draft picks, but other then that fck that
    It makes sense for a few reasons. They have (some) say in where LeBron ends up. If they don't him to terrorize them in the same division, S&T at least gives them the knowledge they won't face each other numerous times a year.

    They also get something, regardless of messageboard fodder, in return for losing a piece. It sucks for a franchise's management, fans, etc. to have a guy just walk for nothing. The Mavs would have taken just about anything back for Nash when he bailed instead of just seeing him take off for nothing. As paltry as some of the pieces may seem to some, getting something is better than being left empty-handed.

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    Do the Cavs have a mystical connection into LeBron's mind to know he's not bluffing them? They might as well go down with the ship, because no matter what they'd realistically get in exchange for James in a potential deal, you're looking at a sure lottery team. Daring him to take less and walk on his own makes even more sense this year, since the CBA is going to be re-negotiated next summer and probably won't allow James to ever get paid like he would for that potential 6th year he'd lose not signing with Cleveland.
    true daring him to walk on his own does make sense this year, never thought about it that way.

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    DG will not give LeBron the extra dough he would make via a sign and trade. He just that stiff.

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    DG will not give LeBron the extra dough he would make via a sign and trade. He just that stiff.
    Technically, he's not giving the money to him.

    Did you mean to say "he" or "he's"?

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    It makes sense for a few reasons. They have (some) say in where LeBron ends up. If they don't him to terrorize them in the same division, S&T at least gives them the knowledge they won't face each other numerous times a year.

    They also get something, regardless of messageboard fodder, in return for losing a piece. It sucks for a franchise's management, fans, etc. to have a guy just walk for nothing. The Mavs would have taken just about anything back for Nash when he bailed instead of just seeing him take off for nothing. As paltry as some of the pieces may seem to some, getting something is better than being left empty-handed.
    Yep, when Cuban decided not to match the offer for Nash, he asked the Colangelos if they would do a S'n'T for Nash, and they said no out of spite, because we fleeced Nash from them originally, the Kidd/Finley trade actually worked out in our favor, and we hired Donnie Nelson away from them.

    I also have a hard time understanding this logic of Cleveland fans being so stupid that the only thing they would understand is that Dan Gilbert traded away arguably the best player in the NBA for pennies on the dollar, like LeBron didn't want to leave. On one hand, we're supposed to accept that the Cleveland fans are savvy enough to know that if LeBron is wearing a different jersey next year, it will be because he wanted to leave...which is why they're already pissed at him, for supposedly laying down in G5 against Boston and because media reports say he's leaning towards leaving. But then on the other hand, they're supposed to be such naive dupes that they wouldn't understand that a LeBron S'n'T would be about salvaging something for him instead of willingly giving him up.

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    I wouldn't say the Kidd Finley trade worked out in your favor, it was a good trade for both teams up front the Suns just made it suck for them when they turned Kidd into Stephon Marbury.

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    Yep, when Cuban decided not to match the offer for Nash, he asked the Colangelos if they would do a S'n'T for Nash, and they said no out of spite, because we fleeced Nash from them originally, the Kidd/Finley trade actually worked out in our favor, and we hired Donnie Nelson away from them.

    I also have a hard time understanding this logic of Cleveland fans being so stupid that the only thing they would understand is that Dan Gilbert traded away arguably the best player in the NBA for pennies on the dollar, like LeBron didn't want to leave. On one hand, we're supposed to accept that the Cleveland fans are savvy enough to know that if LeBron is wearing a different jersey next year, it will be because he wanted to leave...which is why they're already pissed at him, for supposedly laying down in G5 against Boston and because media reports say he's leaning towards leaving. But then on the other hand, they're supposed to be such naive dupes that they wouldn't understand that a LeBron S'n'T would be about salvaging something for him instead of willingly giving him up.

    Most fans in any city have little knowledge of how the NBA works and don't know what a sign and trade is. Most Cleveland fans would see the words "trade" and be pissed at the Cavs front office for trading Lebron. This is a city made up of dumb s who's mental capacity limits them to working in a factory.

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