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    Window shut.

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    If you define the window being open as having a good chance to win, then yes the window is shut.

    Having said that, it's not impossible for the Spurs to win a championship. If Splitter turns out to be solid and the team gels better defensively; it wouldn't be impossible for them to beat teams that go in over-confident. Duncan, Parker and Manu are all still all-star caliber players when it counts. The key is to get solid consistent effort from the other guys.

    But yeh window is pretty much shut....it's not exactly the time to go around bragging how great the Spurs are; because they're arguably not even a top5 team anymore...and haven't been for 3 years.

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    If you define the window being open as having a good chance to win, then yes the window is shut.

    Having said that, it's not impossible for the Spurs to win a championship. If Splitter turns out to be solid and the team gels better defensively; it wouldn't be impossible for them to beat teams that go in over-confident. Duncan, Parker and Manu are all still all-star caliber players when it counts. The key is to get solid consistent effort from the other guys.

    But yeh window is pretty much shut....it's not exactly the time to go around bragging how great the Spurs are; because they're arguably not even a top5 team anymore...and haven't been for 3 years.

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    ...not quite...not yet...

    but if the spurs re-sign BONNER


    ...then the window is SEALED SHUT.



    ...well...


    why am I NOT in' surprised???

    Tiago or not....the in window is slammed shut


    pop & rc

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    lol bonner at 4 years will shut any window tighter than

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    when did a "stretch 4" take priority over defense?

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    I thought the Spurs were owned by a congolmerate of corporations in the San Antonio area that agreed to support the team and keep it in the small market. It's the same way the OKC franchise is set up. Sure, Holt has the largest share of ownership, but hes hardly the end all be all.
    As the economy goes down and with it attendance, they'll sell out to the whoever, regardless of any "agreement" to keep the team in S.A. As always, it all come$ down to the bottom line: : greedy

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    If you define the window being open as having a good chance to win, then yes the window is shut.

    Having said that, it's not impossible for the Spurs to win a championship. If Splitter turns out to be solid and the team gels better defensively; it wouldn't be impossible for them to beat teams that go in over-confident. Duncan, Parker and Manu are all still all-star caliber players when it counts. The key is to get solid consistent effort from the other guys.

    But yeh window is pretty much shut....it's not exactly the time to go around bragging how great the Spurs are; because they're arguably not even a top5 team anymore...and haven't been for 3 years.
    The only all star is Duncan. Parker needs to get healthy and back to form and he may again be an all star but right now he is not, Manu will never be an all star again.

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    However at the start of the season, if all the Spurs have to show for their offseason efforts is resigning RJ and Bonner (God forbid) - the Spurs championship window is officially closed.
    Done and done!

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    i just realized and felt for the first time that it's shut closed. bonner/jefferson resigning where the final nails. we have the same roster going forward and Tiago/Anderson are not enough to overtake the Lakers.

    i am literally depressed.

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    i just realized and felt for the first time that it's shut closed. bonner/jefferson resigning where the final nails. we have the same roster going forward and Tiago/Anderson are not enough to overtake the Lakers.

    i am literally depressed.

    ^^this probably going into the season with the same team+splitter no way we can win a championship unless splitter becomes an instant allstar and anderson a roty candidate.Luckily there still a small crack open in the fa window -


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    Window shut, my ass. We've just been clubbed from behind by five dudes in ski masks, thrown into the back of a window-less van, driven to an abandoned warehouse in the desert, drug down a rickety staircase, and locked in a basement room with cement floors and cinder-block walls.

    As much as I hate Bonner, even I don't think he has single-handedly destroyed the team's le chances. But the Spurs decision to re-sign him sure as tells you that the FO has basically given up on the team as a le contender. In hindsight it will be the one act that comes to symbolize the unequivocal end of the Spurs' le run.

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    Bonner for 4 years? What in the world is the FO thinking?

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    Just enjoy the ride and hope for the Spurs to make the best possible moves..winning a le is extremely unlikely, but you never know what kind of luck/injuries/surprises will come along the way..might as well enjoy Duncan's last few..

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    window closed when bonner resigned

    duncan not gettin double or triple down low anymore

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    This is a leaque where 95 % of the time the Champions have one of the top 3 best players in the game. We used to have that in TD. Not any longer, no way can you say any of our players our top 5 or even top 10 players in the league. So unless we find away to get a top 5 player in a Spur uniform our chances are slim. ( there have been exceptions Celtics 08 and Detroit 04) , In the next 5 years I just don't see how we can get a top 5 player, were certainly no where near getting a top 3 draft pick , and even if we do, most top picks still don't end up being top players of the game ( unless your lucky and draft in 1997 or 2003. As far as getting a top 5 through free agency we simply don't have the cap space nor is SA considered as being a glamour destination. In hind sight you have to appreciate how lucky we have been with 4 rings. Considering how many franchises have multiple rings. Is it 5 ? LA , Celts, Bulls, Detriot and Houston. So let's count our blessings and hope were lucky
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    Eventually Spurs fans will realize that their window slammed shut last year. Duncan is not a superstar anymore and is getting paid 20 million a year. Tony and Manu are getting older and have been injury prone. Until Duncan/Tony/Manu are traded or go elsewhere the window will be shut.

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    the Spurs CAN win a championship if all of these things happen:
    -Splitter can have a somewhat reliable post-game, and more importantly have a big impact defensively.
    -Richard Jefferson is able to make 38% of his threes at least (assumming he comes back). he has to be able to space the floor next year.
    -Anderson can not only hit the 3 consistently (38%), but also be a very good defensive player.
    -George Hill does what he did last year offensively (maybe be a little more aggressive), but becomes the type of defender many people thought he could be.
    -DeJuan Blair improves in a variety of ways.
    -The Big 3 stay healthy. the health of each one has an effect on the other two, esp. if it's Tim and Manu that have to carry the load.

    if all these things happen, the Spurs can win next year. it's not like asking any of those things isn't plausable. it's just not likely.

    the Spurs def. won't go into next year contenders. they'll have to prove it as the year goes on bec. there's a lot that's up in the air (the things i listed).

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    i will say most likely. people are expecting miracles from jefferson and anderson. jefferson has played good defense like what, 6 years ago? anderson might help but his NBA defense and 3 pt shooting is a question mark. any improvement from the young players will only be offset by the decreased output of the aging ginobili and duncan. injuries will once again be a problem as the big 3 get another year older. splitter coming over is too little too late and there is no guarantee that his game transfers. on top of that, spurs still have no legit perimeter wing defenders nor 3 pt shooters. too many fires to put out and not enough water.

    the west has gotten weaker yes, but the most important team, the lakers, got stronger with blake. for the spurs to even have a shot, they need to either make a lopsided trade like the gasol trade, find the fountain of youth for ginobili/duncan/parker, or discover that splitter is actually a better version of pau gasol.

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    Easy. Make the playoffs first. Then take it from there game by game. And hope pop does miracle with the jefferson, hill and blair.

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    I wouldn't say that Steve Blake is a real difference maker. Losing Fisher will hurt more than Blake will help. Duncan and Ginobili are on the decline, but limited minutes early in the season (+ no international play for Manu) will help immensely. I expect a healthy Tony Parker to play balls to the wall in a contract year. RJ will be better from working with Pop this summer and, I believe, he has a lot to prove. Splitter will be a huge boost to the frontline, even at the lowest expectations. Hill and Blair are both hard workers with great at udes and eager to improve. I think James Anderson will be a nice surprise. McDyess is solid. Bonner? Well, you can't win 'em all.
    All in all, the Spurs are putting a vastly improved product on the floor next year and I expect improvement all around.
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    What a rosy outlook....do you have a lot of close friends?

    gee I wonder why not...

    You are correct, I don't have many close friends...but Realists rarely do.

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    You are correct, I don't have many close friends...but weirdo, shut-in, conspiracy theorist, religious, wack jobs rarely do.
    Fify.

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    Slammed.

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    the Spurs CAN win a championship if all of these things happen:
    -Splitter can have a somewhat reliable post-game, and more importantly have a big impact defensively.
    -Richard Jefferson is able to make 38% of his threes at least (assumming he comes back). he has to be able to space the floor next year.
    -Anderson can not only hit the 3 consistently (38%), but also be a very good defensive player.
    -George Hill does what he did last year offensively (maybe be a little more aggressive), but becomes the type of defender many people thought he could be.
    -DeJuan Blair improves in a variety of ways.
    -The Big 3 stay healthy. the health of each one has an effect on the other two, esp. if it's Tim and Manu that have to carry the load.

    if all these things happen, the Spurs can win next year. it's not like asking any of those things isn't plausable. it's just not likely.

    the Spurs def. won't go into next year contenders. they'll have to prove it as the year goes on bec. there's a lot that's up in the air (the things i listed).
    Man, thats a whole lot of "Ifs" lol

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