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    I only need a TE for $5M, Kahn's number and a Nando DeColo mixtape.




    Do it . . .

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    I only need a TE for $5M, Kahn's number and a Nando DeColo mixtape.




    Do it . . .

    that's the way.
    just send him the link to our Nando thread and Kahn will trow in a pick.

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    I just wonder why can average 19+ pts in Bucks uniform. No Kidd or Nash there. And why he suck so much this season.
    Check out his stats. It's all in shot attempts. If you took last season with the Spurs and gave RJ the same number of shots he had per game the season before he scores almost 18 points per game with no additional free throw attempts, no additional three pointers and the exact same field goal percentage.

    That is, if my math is correct at this hour of the morning.

    This was the warning from many when the Spurs originally acquired RJ, that he needs shot attempts to be productive, shot attempts he wasn't going to get as a Spur. , I've said a dozen times that I'd have been happy with the numbers he put up this season if he could have done them every game. The problem was that he'd score 2 points a couple games in a row and then score 20 the third night.

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    I think there is a pretty logical overall scenario.
    I think you got it right.

    A few other things to remember: he said he wanted 4y/$40m, that's obviously again the negotiation game through the media.

    I don't think it would be good for the Spurs to lowball him, because whichever way they lowball him, that would mean paying as much for him for 4 years than he would have gotten in 1. So he might decide to spread his effort accordingly. I don't think it helps at all to have disgruntled players in a team. A bad ambiance in the locker room will kill a team's chances much faster than a couple of scrubs at the end of the bench. Also, it's bad karma.

    I agree that RJ is doing the Spurs a big favor, and might be doing them another one by e.g. asking for a S&T with another team, so there's no reason to try and lowball him.

    Finally one last thing: it could be that the Spurs told him they'd resign him for at least XYZ money at the end of summer if he opted out, and possibly more depending on the other contracts signed by the Spurs over the summer, so as e.g. to stay below the lux tax, offer Parker the right kind of extension, etc. And that he would be welcome to take more than XYZ if he can find it, then either the Spurs would match or ask for a S&T.

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    There are 4 starting quality left on the FA market: Barnes, Butler, Brewer and Howard. If Spurs can get one of these players for the rest of their MLE ($7.7M/ 3 years), I would be all for Spurs letting RJ go.

    A full MLE deal is $33.4M/5 years. I can see some teams offering that to RJ. If the cost for keeping RJ is $35M, I rather spend $7.7M on a player who isn't as good as him but who also isn't that far.

    Re-signing a low balled RJ wouldn't even be my first option for Spurs.

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    I don't see him coming back. Some other team will sign him.

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    The 6th is coming... will_spurs's Avatar
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    I don't see him coming back. Some other team will sign him.
    McDonald on twitter:

    JMcDonald_SAEN

    FWIW, source close to the process sets odds of Jefferson returning to SA at 95 percent. #spurs

    http://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/18589795030
    I guess we have to wait

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    I find it curious that there isn't any news out there of another team with interest in RJ.

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    I find it curious that there isn't any news out there of another team with interest in RJ.
    There is.

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    It was mentioned that an incentive for improved 3-point shooting might be good to have in Jefferson's new deal. I understand the logic but think that's counterproductive. The NBA is already too full of guys who won't take a 70-foot "Hail Mary" at the end of the quarter because they don't want a missed trey to hurt their shooting stats. Every so often, one of those heaves goes in.

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    RJ has Clippers written all over him.

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    I thought the Nets still had some cap space (not sure how much) and the Cavs also now that LeBron is gone?

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    It was mentioned that an incentive for improved 3-point shooting might be good to have in Jefferson's new deal. I understand the logic but think that's counterproductive. The NBA is already too full of guys who won't take a 70-foot "Hail Mary" at the end of the quarter because they don't want a missed trey to hurt their shooting stats. Every so often, one of those heaves goes in.
    I hate players who don't take a last second shot, or shoot just a bit after the buzzer. Maybe it's not their fault that NBA analysts and pundits are so obsessed with stats, but still it's something I don't like at all.

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    I hate players who don't take a last second shot, or shoot just a bit after the buzzer. Maybe it's not their fault that NBA analysts and pundits are so obsessed with stats, but still it's something I don't like at all.
    This is a business. If you are nothing but a role player, then your percentages do matter tremendously.

    What I hate more are the stars who make the big bucks not making enough of an effort to win. RJ is an example of this, he's making the money but plays without focus and aggression. These guys even if they have a clue as to what it takes to play championship basketball, aren't going to make the sacrifices.

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    RJ has Clippers written all over him.
    He's from LA -- I'm sure he'd love going to the Clips.

    Any clues on how Del Negro may feel about him?

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    This was the warning from many when the Spurs originally acquired RJ, that he needs shot attempts to be productive, shot attempts he wasn't going to get as a Spur. , I've said a dozen times that I'd have been happy with the numbers he put up this season if he could have done them every game. The problem was that he'd score 2 points a couple games in a row and then score 20 the third night.
    Actually, what I think bothered many Spurs fans (and Pop) is that those shots were there and he often wouldn't take them. Passive is an overused term on this board, but it does describe RJ since coming over.

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    I wonder what Sprewell is thinking about this right now.
    He and Kemp are too busy feeding their families

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    Chandler for Jefferson?
    Is Chandler going to start at SF for us? Come on, think...

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    I just wonder why can average 19+ pts in Bucks uniform. No Kidd or Nash there. And why he suck so much this season.
    He had more shots and wasn't behind Tim, Manu, TP and Hill. In SA he has less shots to work with.

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    My theory is that the Spurs have not made a formal offer for RJ yet. However, they already let know his agent how much they're willing to offer and RJ is probably witing to see if he can get more money somewhere else.

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    I thought the Nets still had some cap space (not sure how much) and the Cavs also now that LeBron is gone?
    Although it could be team with cap space that gets him, I think a MLE deal is likely. A team over the cap then would be in play, and there are plenty of them.

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    How the can RJ not even be getting a MLE offer from someone?

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    If Atlanta is considering doing Marvin Williams for Shaq, I wonder if there could be an RJ to Cleveland, Shaq to Atlanta, Marvin to San Antonio type of deal.

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    Is Chandler going to start at SF for us? Come on, think...
    Why wouldnt Wilson Chandler start at SF for the spurs? Thats the position he plays. lol

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