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    You're so superior.
    What do you have against intellectual thought and correct use of the English language?

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    Uncovering the Lies That Are Sinking the Oil




    "The rampant use of toxic dispersants, out-of-state private contractors being brought in to spray them and US Coast Guard complicity are common stories now in the four states most affected by BP's Gulf of Mexico oil disaster."

    http://www.truth-out.org/uncovering-...oil62345?print

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    The Gulf states are gonna be ed by their own Repug governments and by BP, and it looks like by the Feds, too.

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    Gulf Oil Spill: University Study Contradicts Government Estimates, Up To 79% Of Oil Could Remain

    A group of scientists say that most of that BP oil the government claimed was gone from the Gulf of Mexico is actually still there.

    The scientists believe that roughly three-quarters of the oil (70% to 79%) still lurks under the surface. The research team, affiliated with the University of Georgia, said that it is a misinterpretation of data to claim that oil that has dissolved is actually gone or harmless. The report was based on an analysis of federal estimates, but the Wall Street Journal notes that it hasn't been published or peer-reviewed yet.

    Charles Hopkinson, who helped lead the investigation, claims "the oil is still out there, and it will likely take years to completely degrade." The UGA marine sciences professor, and director of the Georgia Sea Grant, added, "We are still far from a complete understanding of what its impacts are."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_684343.html

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    Texas Tech Researchers Find No Evidence of Petroleum Hydrocarbons in ‘Good Morning America’ Samples


    After receiving a shipment of Louisiana seafood samples collected by a reporter with “Good Morning America,” researchers at Texas Tech University found no evidence of petroleum hydrocarbons.

    Though these samples were clean, the sample size was small and more research is necessary before the full picture can be seen, said Ron Kendall, director of The Ins ute of Environmental and Human Health (TIEHH).

    “Our detection limits would have detected selected polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) had they been there, even at very low levels,” Kendall said. “Everyone should realize the sample size was extremely small and that these data represent just a snapshot of time and space. We believe sampling and analyses should continue, and that independent science-based research needs to continue.”

    Scientists are concerned about PAHs because some of them are known carcinogens.

    Producers with the morning news program asked TIEHH researchers to test the seafood samples prior to the federal government’s opening of waters to fishing on Monday. Reporter Matt Gutman sent the samples from Bastian Bay, La, where he is reporting.

    “We collected the samples Monday in Bastian Bay,” Gutman said. “It is an area where we've found oil on the sediment. We filmed it all, including the bagging. The fishermen used a net, but found no evidence of oil directly on any of the samples.”

    Gutman’s samples included shrimp, of which nine were tested from three separate locations, four oysters, two bait fish, a flounder and a speckled trout. They were shipped on ice overnight to the ins ute on Tuesday and Wednesday, where they were received in excellent condition and smelled fresh before processing.

    Once tissues were extracted, scientists analyzed them using gas chromatography with mass spectrometry, said Todd Anderson, an environmental chemist at the ins ute. The process is used to determine substances within a specific test sample, and is widely regarded as the gold standard for forensic substance identification.

    “We were particularly interested in polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, some of which can be carcinogenic,” Anderson said. “The analytical results revealed that the PAHs we analyzed for were below detection limits of our instrumentation, and far below any levels of concern as regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.”

    Trace Analysis Inc. of Lubbock, Texas, a certified laboratory in Texas and Louisiana, assisted with the analysis.

    This project took five days to complete and was done without support from BP or the United States Federal Government.


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    ^^^Gets his news from the TV. Shares it with us. How considerate.

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    ^^^Gets his news from the TV. Shares it with us. How considerate.
    Another WH "gem".

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    For myself, I thought it was an all too routine observation.

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    For myself, I thought it was an all too routine observation.

    You post frequently, but you actually post little actual content.

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    I wouldn't trust you to read any of it, but in general you could be right.

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    If that really is the case, then kick-ass. It shows that some scientists out there don't have their head up their rear ends. I'm somewhat skeptical that all this oil can disperse with no long-term effects, but hopefully that is the case. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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    Texas Tech Researchers Find No Evidence of Petroleum Hydrocarbons in ‘Good Morning America’ Samples




    One location down, several hundred more to go.

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    so the article states that nothing is conclusive yet and that this result reflects a very small sample size...

    what's the point of posting it? I don't understand

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    so the article states that nothing is conclusive yet and that this result reflects a very small sample size...

    what's the point of posting it? I don't understand

    A data point is a data point.

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    Easy. To minimize the damage before it has been conclusively measured, let alone understood from any strictly scientific POV.

    DarrinS is propaganda guy with notable frequency around here.

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    Easy. To minimize the damage before it has been conclusively measured, let alone understood from any strictly scientific POV.

    DarrinS is propaganda guy with notable frequency around here.

    Meh, there's still a 20 billion slush fund out there, so I'm sure there will need to be futher studies, class action lawsuits, etc.

    Either way, I'm eating shrimp.

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    A data point is a data point.
    Ah, so you don't think it's any more important than data points that contradict this one. Thanks for pointing that out.

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    A data point is a data point.
    What a Clinton-esque thing to say..

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    Ah, so you don't think it's any more important than data points that contradict this one. Thanks for pointing that out.

    I think those are important too.

    Has someone found contaminated shrimp? Fish? Oysters?

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    What a Clinton-esque thing to say..
    Uh, ok.

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    "20 billion slush fund out there"

    You Lie. The $20B is unfunded.

    My bet is that BP will never pay $20B. They're gonna Exxon Valdez the plaintiffs down to nothing, and stretch it out for decades. Chevron's doing the same in the Amazon jungle.

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    "20 billion slush fund out there"

    You Lie. The $20B is unfunded.

    My bet is that BP will never pay $20B. They're gonna Exxon Valdez the plaintiffs down to nothing, and stretch it out for decades. Chevron's doing the same in the Amazon jungle.

    If LA has anyone like "The Texas Hammer", then somebody will get their grubby mitts on that money, whether they were actually harmed, or not.

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    "20 billion slush fund out there"

    You Lie. The $20B is unfunded.

    My bet is that BP will never pay $20B. They're gonna Exxon Valdez the plaintiffs down to nothing, and stretch it out for decades. Chevron's doing the same in the Amazon jungle.
    You lie.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...spillfund.html

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    ...that's just a down payment...lets hope B.P. honors the full obligation..

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    My gulf shrimp for dinner was damn good.

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    My gulf shrimp for dinner was damn good.
    Seeing as how shrimping season is only just about to start, I'm guessing your dinner of frozen gulf shrimp from last year was damn good.

    Edit: my bad -- season started in mid July.

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