It is hard to expect a guy like Bonner, who is at the tail end of his career, to magically improve in the playoffs. What he brings (3 PT shooting) is more inconsistent than what Blair brings (rebounding, toughness and over all ability).
The spacing does get messed up when Bonner is missing because people dare him to shoot. The defense forces the ball to him. They might keep an eye on him, but they are keeping a hand on everyone else.
I wish Bonner would carry over his regular season shooting to the playoffs because it would be a huge asset. But he has not to date and it is hard to believe at this point that he will.
IMO, in the playoffs you need things you can count on. Rebounding is a huge deal and is strongly correlated with winning games. IMO, it is the single most important individual box score stat (although you can't pin point any one thing in a basketball game as the "reason" why a team wins or loses usually). If that is the case, you go with what you know.
Hopefully, Blair can make a leap much like Hill did. He has the talent. Bonner does not. Even if he doesn't, the playoffs should hopefully be a lot of Tim/Dice/Tiago to carry the major load.
I will bump this thread before the first Lakers game. He might make me look like a idiot though. I never liked bonner but now I will root like crazy for him. He better not make me look like an idiot. Unfortunately he could have an amazing performance but most of you would say it's not the playoffs yet.
Bonner is 30 not 35 so I wouldn't consider this as the tail end of his career. Perhaps Bonner will play better now than ever before with his new four year contract. Psychologically he was probably always fearful of not lasting in the nba. If this was the case it would have negatively impacted his game causeing more mistakes.
That's the point. Bonner could go off for 50 against the Lakers, but if it's not a playoff game, then it won't matter anyways. Most people will agree that Bonner is a decent rotational player for the regular season; you just can't count on him when it matters most.
I'd rather see a solid 14 and 8 out of Bonner against the Lakers in the playoffs then see him go for 50 and 25 during the year.
It's not just the only argument. His 40% regular season 3 point shooting is nice and all, but he's a career regular-season 7 points / 3.5 rebound guy.
I understand the 7 points considering Tony/Manu/Tim are in there with him, but the 3.5 rebounds a game in nearly 20 mins is among the worst in the league (he ranked 81 out of 101 PFs in RP48 last season).
And the problem is that if his past few seasons are any indication, his absolute ceiling is about 5 RPG. Blair already averaged 6.4 in his rookie season.
I meant the tail end of his career from an improvement standpoint or upside.
I know this is the regular season but check out the spacing.
:29-He is sagging off him but it is definitely more space. He has his attention.
:46-Bonner left that side wide open.
:50-Dirk focused on Bonner.
1:21-More space.
2:32-Bonner's man ready to run out and put up a hand instead of protecting the basket.
2:54-Improving Bonner.
3:06-Nice lane for timmy.
3:13-3:30-Offensive display.
3:33-Scola refuses to help guard timmy.
Bonner is definitely still improving. Sky hook. He is becoming more comfortable dribbling the ball when the defender comes flying at him.
He helps others get their numbers easier. Does that not mean anything.
We get what you are saying but it does not matter. Because in the PO's it does not happen.
What are you Bonner haters going to do when the Bonner jersey is hanging in the rafters?
For real though, I am ready to be done with these late summer gab sessions and ready to watch some basketball...
Yes, I am ready for the season already. At least football is starting soon and that will hold me over until the season starts.
I agree. The opposition can't wait for Pop to play him. It's like an automatic red carpet to the hoop.
I just don't think it means what you think it means.
Bonner is a guy you put in as a last resort if your team needs offense, ideally. if he has some kind of consistent role for your team, your're ed. he's a 5th big, which is what he'll be with this team now that we have Splitter. our big rotation of Duncan/Splitter/Blair/McDyess is damn deep. we're going into next year overlooked, and i don't know why. we've got a great team, and have filled a lot of holes that needed to be filled.
The only thing making you look like an idiot is your posts.
Neither Bonner and Blair are to short and would get owned playing against the Flakers bigs.
Are we calling that little running floater of his a sky hook? That's awesome! I hope that catches on. I really do.
Sky Hook!
Bonner sucks so much fat that the Spurs are flirting with an NC-17 rating. Dude's got one in his mouth and one in each hand like it's his ing job. The fact that other teams are tickled pink when this guy checks in should tell you all you need to know.
Best thing we can do is take up a collection and pay off some Eduardo Najera enforcer type to take out Bonner's knee. Career ender; make it happen Spurs fans!
That's really uncalled for.Bonner sucks so much fat that the Spurs are flirting with an NC-17 rating. Dude's got one in his mouth and one in each hand like it's his ing job. The fact that other teams are tickled pink when this guy checks in should tell you all you need to know.
Best thing we can do is take up a collection and pay off some Eduardo Najera enforcer type to take out Bonner's knee. Career ender; make it happen Spurs fans!
Which part?
Take your pick.
Oh c'mon, guys. Don't take everything so seriously. It's either laugh or cry. Lest there be any confusion, I don't really hope that Bonner suffers a career ending injury. And I don't really believe Bonner is performing insane amounts of fellatio.
But a word of advice for Dex, ElNono, and anyone else who was similarly offended: Do yourself a favor and don't head over to the NBA Forum. You're precious sensibilities wouldn't last a minute over there.
They didn't know there was an NBA forum.Oh c'mon, guys. Don't take everything so seriously. It's either laugh or cry. Lest there be any confusion, I don't really hope that Bonner suffers a career ending injury. And I don't really believe Bonner is performing insane amounts of fellatio.
But a word of advice for Dex, ElNono, and anyone else who was similarly offended: Do yourself a favor and don't head over to the NBA Forum. You're precious sensibilities wouldn't last a minute over there.
We try to keep it classy here among Spurs fans. I don't like Matt any more than you do, and I'll probably be cursing at my TV every time he steps on the floor, but your post is bordering 21_ ings material, almost lakaluva-caliber, IMO.Oh c'mon, guys. Don't take everything so seriously. It's either laugh or cry. Lest there be any confusion, I don't really hope that Bonner suffers a career ending injury. And I don't really believe Bonner is performing insane amounts of fellatio.
But a word of advice for Dex, ElNono, and anyone else who was similarly offended: Do yourself a favor and don't head over to the NBA Forum. You're precious sensibilities wouldn't last a minute over there.
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