It should be.
It disgusts me that someone would be allowed to desecrate such a piece of americana.
I have to say, I always wondered what it would be like to talk to someone SO dumb and ignorant as you T-park. Its been... enlightning. I was hoping I wouldn't find your kind in here, but it seems you IGNORANT s are everywhere. Thank god most Americans aren't like you, or at least I hope they aren't, I sincerely do. You bring a whole new meaning to the word THICK!
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Most of us are a very friendly, open minded people.
It's just that, like in all countries, the ignorant are the loudest and draw the most attention.
See, while I respect everyones opinions, I dont think TPARK is that bad of a dude, I have not met the dude yet, but I bet hes cool.
Guys like TPARK just get real touchy on the American subject, as do I. I am extremely patriotic and agree with all that jazz, but I also agree that no one should be enforcing it.
no problem.always wondered what it would be to talk to someone SO dumb and ignorant as you T-park
Apreciate it. Sucks being an american, I got it.
I agree too, look at my one post, I agree no one should be FORCED to be patriotic.Guys like TPARK just get real touchy on the American subject, as do I. I am extremely patriotic and agree with all that jazz, but I also agree that no one should be enforcing it.
But, there is a difference between that, and rules to RESPECT the flag.
Thanks for sticking up for me, one of the very very few that would.
yeah, im so horrible.Most of us are a very friendly, open minded people
Bite me.
Oh, I get it!! You're messin wit me! aren't ya? It was a joke, I get it now. Has to be!
Rules to respect the flag. Right on brother, right on.
well, I mean, I dont want a law saying at 8 o clock you fly the flag blah blah blah, thats part of free speach, no i dont have to fly the flag, ok cool dude whatever.
But, I think there should be rules and laws to RESPECT the flag, because IMO, the flag is a reflection of the country itself, and if you desecrate the flag, your in a way, desecrating the country.
I hope your still with me 3rdcoast lol.
Couldn't have said it better bro. You nailed it.
for that??
Im rootin for shaq lol.
HaHaHa - after tonight, any support is welcomed.
Now I am just trying not to go to sleep cuz I know I will be having nightmares of last years finals.
Are we having a difficult time walking and chewing gum at the same time again?
I agree if the Spurs Flag is still up in July that is tacky but this is the playoff's Nothing wrong with showing Spurs Sprit.
Homeowners Associations need to stick to sending letters about overgrown lawns and such..
No it is not
The associations letter stated that the homeowner by hanging the flag is, "Get this" advertising for the Spurs.
The homeowner reaction was, what about signs in peoples yards "Vote for ____ _____ for Mayor" and home security signs in front of their houses isn't that advertising?
The Association agreed to allow him to hang his flag until after the playoffs are over
The Spurs are a source of civic pride and represent this city. So in San Antonio, there should be no problem with flying Spurs flags.The American Flag represents an entire nation and national pride, the Spurs flags represent SA and their fans and are not a national symbol.
In your opinion. Others may not share that.Yea, it is tacky.
I think all the rules about the flags are recommendations or suggestions, not the law, at least not in the sense you will go to jail for it.
I love that TPark began this thread screaming about personal freedoms of expression being sacrosanct, only to proclaim, more recently, that some forms of free expression (flag burning) should be wholly outlawed.
By the way, as to the Homeowner's Association, a homeowner has no First Amendment rights, because the First Amendment generally doesn't apply in private contexts. It's why your boss can fire you for saying certain things without violating the Cons ution and why the Spurs can throw out unruly pricks who say ridiculous things at games. If the City of San Antonio was coming in and telling people what they could and could not fly in front of their homes, there would be a Cons utional issue, but until the government gets involved -- until there is some form of state action -- there is no First Amendment concern.
There is a difference between free expression, and desecrating the flag.I love that TPark began this thread screaming about personal freedoms of expression being sacrosanct, only to proclaim, more recently, that some forms of free expression (flag burning) should be wholly outlawed
Come on lib use some common sense.
you're pathetic, by your logic all signs and advertisements are the cause of accidents
maybe you cant consentrate on driving with all the destractions but most of the rest of us can
If we can put up "vote for pedro" signs during elections, and majority never get taken down... there should be no reason a flag of any kind can go up.
sorry to join this discussion late but just reading the last couple of posts :
regarding freedom of speech and expression and all that cool stuff we take advatage of everday.
does our freedom or rights as U.S. citizens allow us to hang the U.S. flag upside down, inside out, blackened, colored, torn or burned?
IMO i think they answer is yes...we can do anything and everything we choose as long as it doesn't physically hurt anybody else.
wether we should do it is another question .
we can do anything and everything we choose as long as it doesn't physically hurt anybody else.
wether we should do it is another question
in other words we COULD do it.
But we WONT do it.
You say you can't make people be patriotic, but you can make them respect the flag -- my point is this: if you hold the flag out as the utmost symbol of our nation, what better means of expressing contempt is there than burning that symbol?
Look, I don't like the fact that people want to burn the flag, but I understand that in a cons utional republic that holds individual freedom to be important above all else, the idea that the government could tell me that I can't express disdain by certain particular acts is anathema.
Burning the flag is an extreme form of expression -- meant to convey contempt for our government, those who populate its positions, or the policies that those people enact. Burning the flag also doesn't harm any other person (unlike, say, obscenity). You can't have true freedom of expression if you curtail the rights of individuals to express themselves, even when their chosen form of expression doesn't hurt anyone. That's the point. It would be like arbitrarily making a rule that people couldn't use a particular word to express themselves -- it just doesn't work uner the First Amendment.
Great observations by Manumania in this thread. Props.
Prosecuting flag burners would be no different than a Middle Eastern country prosecuting a Quran flusher. Let's not go down that road.
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