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So could killing some random gangster-looking person.
But it could very well save another from a similar fate.
So could killing some random gangster-looking person.
How would that be the same as a known offender?
fact is many rapists get out of prison bc so many people(idealists like you) think they are capable of reform. it is the idealists who think everything can be fixed with a little counseling and tlc.
The reasoning is based on what MIGHT happen.How would that be the same as a known offender?
What percentage of rapists rape again?fact is many rapists get out of prison bc so many people(idealists like you)
life in prison is not always life in prison. even when "life w/o parole" is the sentence. and we all know that 80 yr old men are not incapable of molesting a child.
Yeah well...it wouldn't me...
I get more guilt over stepping on a roach than I do wishing a horrible death on this guy...
A roach has more humanity...
But I bet you kill roaches don't you, and are very happy to see them dead and flushed.....just for being nothing more than roaches...
A roach has never raped a little girl..
What makes you fit to judge that roach? Someone thing gave it life...what makes you qualified to end it for doing nothing more than trying to survive?
A painful death will give this sociopath a taste of what he gave a little girl...and he needs to learn his lesson in his final minutes on earth..consider it an act of enlightenment on a dead mother er. I'd say that's a pretty kind thing to do for a man who isn't going to live very long.
He definitely needs to be raped right before he is left to die...
Then make it so.life in prison is not always life in prison.
Right, then he'll remember his lesson while dead.A painful death will give this sociopath a taste of what he gave a little girl.
Okay, there's a big difference between people and roaches. A Buddhist would argue differently, but I'm not Buddhist. I do everything I can to keep roaches away from me to avoid killing them, but that's irrelevant because you're equating a roach with a being that has a conscience. Roaches do not learn from mistakes, they do not feel guilt, they do not pass on what they learn to their offspring. A roach cannot have HUMANity because it's NOT HUMAN.
No, a roach never has raped a little girl, but I'm sure they've given diseases to plenty of them as they are filthy creatures.
All in all, yours is a moot point, and a real stretch.
a being that has a conscience.
debatable.
This is a 17 year-old kid that definitely has mental/emotional issues. What he did to that little girl is unforgivable, but he shouldn't be executed for it.
I don't think this guy has a conscience at all. But, just because he's sociopathic doesn't mean he has to die.
no. it's because of his sociopathic ACTIONS that determined that.
He'll be more enlightened leaving this world than he was living in it...that's the ultimate act of kindness if you ask me...it's something kind folk like myself would be willing to do even though it doesn't have much practical benefit...
You should always be kind even if you can't see any practical use for doing it...we're are all in this together.
I personally think this guy would rejoice at being freed from the sociopathic prison he has lived in all his life...he'll finally know what it feels like to have a sense of compassion and care about human life...his own.
If I didn't have that...I'd rather die knowing what it feels like to have that, that to continue living without the ability to care about anyone else...
Somethings are worse than death...
Most convincing argument in the thread.
@ whottt!
Just because someone has a thumb doesn't necessarily equate them with a HUMAN....one that deserves to live, anyway.
Right, but let's say that sociopathy is a mental and medical condition - you shouldn't be killed for some condition you have no control over. I think the kid should be ins utionalized and then maybe released into a prison if he's ever deemed well enough to leave. I would imagine being stuck in a state ins ution indefinitely would be more punishment than just prison.
well jekka, we'll leave it to the defense to claim insanity and see what happens.
the fact that he tried to cover his tracks mean he knew damn well what he was doing...but i see your point.
I think "insanity" is overused, but so is trying juveniles as adults.
(Dammit, I went over 8 words... )
What makes you think this guy feels guilt? I'd say the chances are that he doesn't...I'd say he enjoyed doing it.
Did you see the last child rapist and killer in Florida?
You know...the one who was video taped in a bar with a big grin on his face as the little girl he had raped and buried alive died? She didn't die quick either...IIRC she died over a period of days...probably knowing for a long time she was going to die and hoping beyond all hope that someone would find...
And BTW....there's no gurantee that these guy don't have diseases...for all you know this guy could have aids or something...
And roach dust has been cited as potential cure for Cancer...
Maybe if these guys are ugly you will feel that they deserve death as much as an innocent roach does...
Roaches>>>Pedophiles and child murderers...but that's just me.
Oh I don't think there's any way he could get off with an insanity plea - I do think he knew what he was doing, he just didn't care - that's part of the definition of sociopathy, a refusal to conform to the moral ideals of your society and a lack of conscience. That's why I think the guy deserves a life of incarceration, he's not fit to interact with other members of society. But, because he would never get the insanity plea pulled off, he will probably never get the help that he needs. On the other hand, if he's going to be in prison forever, maybe he doesn't need the help ... it could go several ways.
See my discussion with BigZak. And I'd like a link to the article about roaches and cancer. And while we're on that subject, why is it then okay to kill a roach and grind it up into dust to save a human if their life is worth more than some humans in your mind?
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