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  1. #76
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    The only thing I can tell you is take some time.

    Don't talk to her or call her or anything. Take some time to reflect in your heart. And if you can't live without her and honestly believe that she told you only out of guilt and won't do it ever again, then take her back. But realize if you take her back, you could end up setting yourself for a huge true heartbreak.

    But I'm not going to recommend just letting her go without thinking it through. Nobody wants to reflect back in life and think of what could have been.

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    I think it was smart for Brut to post this here. On a touchy subject like this, anonymous venting and advice over the internet might be better than letting your buddies know what a tramp or what not Amber is. Especially if this was viewed by all he knows as "Brut's perfect woman".

    Saves face.
    Wise.

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    Manny, if Jekka left you tomorrow your ass would be here with 15 threads crying your eyes out. Don't be frontin'.

    Bull ! I'd have one thread because multiple threads on the same thing piss Kori off.

    Secondly, I'd be bashing Jekka while I cried at the keyboard.

    In all seriousness, I'm not trying to be a with this guy, and he can do whatever he wants. But posting on the message board to vent and posting on here asking people who know very little about your life to tell you how to handle a situation they have very little info about - one sided info at that - and then continuously refuting what they do say is just weird to me.

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    Dude - drop her. My ex gf was the same way. Before she was with me,She was with her ex bf for 2 years and told me that she had only been with him. After we started having sex and later on broke up, it was brought to my attention(with proof on video) that she had sex with at least 2 other guys before she was with me. So that just pissed me off even more cuz I wondered how many other things she told me were lies.

    Good girls are hard to find.Good luck though, and I agree with what Violent Kitten has been saying also.

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    I'm just saying, I think there's more to this than is being let on.

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    The only thing I can tell you is take some time.

    Don't talk to her or call her or anything. Take some time to reflect in your heart. And if you can't live without her and honestly believe that she told you only out of guilt and won't do it ever again, then take her back. But realize if you take her back, you could end up setting yourself for a huge true heartbreak.

    But I'm not going to recommend just letting her go without thinking it through. Nobody wants to reflect back in life and think of what could have been.
    I know in the end it's me and the door. And the steps between are the why's. Thanks for your insight on this.

    I haven't talked to her, I keep hanging up and deleting her emails without reading them. She keeps begging me to at least meet her online tonight and talk for a bit.

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    She's not doing that. I know this much at least.
    Okay, then I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it sounds like she's got too much of her own going on to be in a functional relationship. Even if you stay, what's going to happen is that she's going to be trying to sort out all her own stuff with herself and you're going to be doing all the relationship work. Maybe it really was a one time thing - stranger things have happened, and it sounds like she's going through enough stuff to cloud her judgment. She may not like it, the best thing for her is to get some help - be it from a professional or just some friends that will help her work out stuff - before attempting another meaningful romantic relationship. There's just too much at stake in a relationship like that. Hers sounds like a situation with serious psychological reprocussions.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I'm just saying, I think there's more to this than is being let on.
    OMG you are seriously re ed dude.

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    I have a Magic 8-Ball but can find it. I guess that's not a good sign for you, Brutalis.

    Anyway, I say she's not mature enough to handle your relationship. If she were, she wouldn't be out macking on some other guy. Cut your losses (even if it may hurt for a while) and move on. You'll find someone who will respect your relationship even at your age. Proof: My huband and I were 17 and 19 when we met and have been together for 20 years.

    Damn, I keep dating myself, don't I?

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    I know in the end it's me and the door. And the steps between are the why's. Thanks for your insight on this.

    I haven't talked to her, I keep hanging up and deleting her emails without reading them. She keeps begging me to at least meet her online tonight and talk for a bit.

    Don't delete the emails. You never know when written proof might come in handy.

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    Don't delete the emails. You never know when written proof might come in handy.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Okay, then I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it sounds like she's got too much of her own going on to be in a functional relationship. Even if you stay, what's going to happen is that she's going to be trying to sort out all her own stuff with herself and you're going to be doing all the relationship work. Maybe it really was a one time thing - stranger things have happened, and it sounds like she's going through enough stuff to cloud her judgment. She may not like it, the best thing for her is to get some help - be it from a professional or just some friends that will help her work out stuff - before attempting another meaningful romantic relationship. There's just too much at stake in a relationship like that. Hers sounds like a situation with serious psychological reprocussions.
    Lmao I didnt mean to make her sound re ed, but.. uh.. nevermind.

    She has had a hard life, the problems she has arent her own, whats going on between us is the only thing she has done to hurt anyone I know of. I know she is sincere in wanting to work things out but for me I dont know if I can accept all of this and love her the same. Thats pretty much for a reply.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    Don't delete the emails. You never know when written proof might come in handy.
    Lol theyre all im sorry emails that last one paragraph.

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    OMG you are seriously re ed dude.
    I'm re ed because I think you're making yourself seem like some great guy but that's probably not the case?

    Hey, maybe you are a great guy that never did anything but good things for her, but it's my experience that those people are incredibly rare. More often than not when someone complains about something in a relationship to others they are quick to tell what is done wrong to them, but leave out lots of details as far as what they did/do wrong in the relationship.

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    Good partners are tough to find. Once you get a good one, don't let em go.

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    sorry dude.


    just from reading your posts, i know you are not going anywhere...and if you do drop her? that guy she 'only kissed' will be hittin it before the week is up.

    i think you are looking for justification of her actions from other females point of view. a wrong is a wrong and it seems the ladies in this forum have no problem calling it like they see it either.

    but i think you are going to stay with her and you are going to take out some of your aggression on her. verbally, hopefully not physically.

    if/when you do this, she will resent you and her guilt for her indescretion will disappear. that's a bad thing. the cycle might start all over again.

    i find this comment in your sig

    she always weighed me down, but, afraid I might need her, I dragged her around.
    and these comments in your posts

    and she let me beat the out of her...... but not really.

    I guess I need to learn how to say goodbye.



    a little disturbing, yet very telling. you already have your answers.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I'm re ed because I think you're making yourself seem like some great guy but that's probably not the case?

    Hey, maybe you are a great guy that never did anything but good things for her, but it's my experience that those people are incredibly rare. More often than not when someone complains about something in a relationship to others they are quick to tell what is done wrong to them, but leave out lots of details as far as what they did/do wrong in the relationship.
    Well you're cyncial and that's pretty sad. Oh well.

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    Lmao I didnt mean to make her sound re ed, but.. uh.. nevermind.

    She has had a hard life, the problems she has arent her own, whats going on between us is the only thing she has done to hurt anyone I know of. I know she is sincere in wanting to work things out but for me I dont know if I can accept all of this and love her the same. Thats pretty much for a reply.
    I dont think she was calling her re ed at all. Seems like there are a lot of underlying issues going on with her. Like you said she comes from a background where her family were druggies, her mother kicked her out for another dude. There seems to be a lot of underlying emotional issues she may be dealing with or hasnt come to terms with. That in no way makes her re ed.

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    Lmao I didnt mean to make her sound re ed, but.. uh.. nevermind.

    She has had a hard life, the problems she has arent her own, whats going on between us is the only thing she has done to hurt anyone I know of. I know she is sincere in wanting to work things out but for me I dont know if I can accept all of this and love her the same. Thats pretty much for a reply.
    You didn't make her sound re ed - I'm just saying that you shouldn't underestimate the effect that her family situation, etc. may be having on her, especially if she hasn't personally resolved them yet. I'm a firm believer in the idea that you can love someone else when you don't love yourself, but it's really ing hard to love someone and have a functional relationship with them if you aren't at least comfortable with yourself.

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    sorry dude.


    just from reading your posts, i know you are not going anywhere...and if you do drop her? that guy she 'only kissed' will be hittin it before the week is up.

    i think you are looking for justification of her actions from other females point of view. a wrong is a wrong and it seems the ladies in this forum have no problem calling it like they see it either.

    but i think you are going to stay with her and you are going to take out some of your aggression on her. verbally, hopefully not physically.

    if/when you do this, she will resent you and her guilt for her indescretion will disappear. that's a bad thing. the cycle might start all over again.

    i find this comment in your sig



    and these comments in your posts






    a little disturbing, yet very telling. you already have your answers.
    dude thats alot of judgements. thats lyrics from some song in my sig i saw them last week live...

    i am a very sarcastic person and i dont mean to come off violent. i have never touched her before and i wont ever.

    my father beat me and my mom until i was 6 then left for good. my step dad did the same thing. im not that person....

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    You didn't make her sound re ed - I'm just saying that you shouldn't underestimate the effect that her family situation, etc. may be having on her, especially if she hasn't personally resolved them yet. I'm a firm believer in the idea that you can love someone else when you don't love yourself, but it's really ing hard to love someone and have a functional relationship with them if you aren't at least comfortable with yourself.
    =( I hear you.

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    Since 1992 Brutalis's Avatar
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    I dont think she was calling her re ed at all. Seems like there are a lot of underlying issues going on with her. Like you said she comes from a background where her family were druggies, her mother kicked her out for another dude. There seems to be a lot of underlying emotional issues she may be dealing with or hasnt come to terms with. That in no way makes her re ed.
    True. I picked a bad word to use.

    Seeing this sort of makes perfect sense. I know she loves me and has no self confidense about herself no matter what I try to help her with. She has so many issues with family I cant fix for her that she becomes distant sometimes.

    I guess I have to accept being alone. Of course I dont know how, but we'll see.

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    Ok, nevermind.
    Last edited by MannyIsGod; 05-23-2005 at 05:49 PM. Reason: I don't want to be a dick.

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    Ok Mr. "I've never been able to fall for a woman". *I* am the cynical one?

    It's not cynicism to realize that problems in relationship normally stem from 2 people, not just one bad person.

    But continue to try to make yourself seem like an angel; Zak has already shown a bit of your not so angelic side.
    Blah blah blah blah blah. Okay what did you say?

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    Manny gets into the most arguments I have seen..

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