Sure glad we devoted resources to making Mahinmi improve

[awktalk]

Ian lovers checking the box score after every game waiting for a day like this so they can create an "i told you so" thread.

I'm pretty sure we'll see a repeat of this with Splitter in a couple of years after he doesn't develop in time.

[jjktkk]

I've said before that Mahimni showed flashes, but because of never getting any playing time, he wasn't showing the necessary BBIQ?, consistancy, ? I actually thought that Pop would of kept him this year, since he was relatively cheap. But when the Spurs let him go I figured Mahimni has reached his ceiling, potential wise, so to speak. If Mahimni could average these numbers he put up tonight, for a season, will Pop is look like a idiot for letting him go, or did Pop figure Splitter was an upgrade over Mahimni?

[gospursgojas]

Look I don't mean to be a . All I'm trying to say is that its a big coincidence that SpurFan thinks 1st rounders that we give away suck automatically.

John Salmons has a starting job in the NBA right now.

Beno Udrih and Leandro Barbosa are or have had a streak of being solid contributors to their teams.

Barbosa is probably the one you can point out as being the closest to "garbage". And I probably would not try to argue with you much.

But the track record is there. We draft good players. We always have. It's part of what makes the Spurs the Spurs.

It's a big coincidence that most people who are okay with Scola leaving are also okay with Mahinmi leaving.

Personally I thought letting a player you spent so much time and effort and resources towards developing walk for nothing (Mahinmi) was bad strategy. I agree you never throw good money after bad. But I don't think Spurs management thought Ian Mahinmi was bad. We have empty roster spots on the team right now. Mahinmi was got by Mavs on the cheap. We were just trying to save money.

We developed a player for our chief division rival and the odds are for him being a solid contributor for whatever team he is on as he gets into his mid 20's and onward.

I never argued that the Spurs didn't waste draft picks. If anything I agree with you on that. But of the players you listed, Ian should be the one that is last on the list to complain about...other than the fact that he stuck around the longest and yes, the spurs did invest alot in him.

Barbosa was never meant to be a Spur, Pop hated Beno, and Salmons took 5 years to show up. But I list all 3 of those players as bigger losses than Ian.

[Mel_13]

Look I don't mean to be a . All I'm trying to say is that its a big coincidence that SpurFan thinks 1st rounders that we give away suck automatically.

John Salmons has a starting job in the NBA right now.

Beno Udrih and Leandro Barbosa are or have had a streak of being solid contributors to their teams.

Salmons and Barbosa were not chosen by the Spurs. The picks were traded and the players were selected by the Philly and Phoenix, respectively. The 2002 pick was traded for Speedy and the 2003 pick was traded for a future first rounder that was eventually used in the Nazr trade.

Neither one of those picks was given away.

[mingus]

one of the other issues i had with letting Ian go is that Dice is retiring after this year and the Spurs bigs rotation will look very thin next year. We'll be seeing a WHOLE LOT OF FIRE CROTCH.

[TJastal]

I never argued that the Spurs didn't waste draft picks. If anything I agree with you on that. But of the players you listed, Ian should be the one that is last on the list to complain about...other than the fact that he stuck around the longest and yes, the spurs did invest alot in him.

Barbosa was never meant to be a Spur, Pop hated Beno, and Salmons took 5 years to show up. But I list all 3 of those players as bigger losses than Ian.

Do you realize Ian only just turned 24 about a month ago?

[SpursDynasty85]

Yes I guess I don't get that the Spurs should kick themselves for not giving Ian 6 years instead of 5 to finally show up, and that if only they had given him some actual playing time he would have showed something that he obviously didn't in practice, summer league, pre-season, off-season, shootaround, team meetings, Manu's bowling charity event, etc. And now all that great talent is being stolen from us by our I35 rival!

Wow. All that and pop couldn't even give him a chance in a real game..

[Cant_Be_Faded]

So then even discounting Barbosa and Salmons does that make more or less 1st round draft pick busts by the Spurs?

[gospursgojas]

Do you realize Ian only just turned 24 years about a month ago?

Do you realize this is his 6 season in the NBA and he's been playing professionally since he was 17?

Playing time, injuries, age, what other excuses do you all have to give this guy for so far not giving anything but a good game AND DUNK ...don't forget that dunk in that game....against the Nets and another against the warriors?

[TJastal]

I've said before that Mahimni showed flashes, but because of never getting any playing time, he wasn't showing the necessary BBIQ?, consistancy, ? I actually thought that Pop would of kept him this year, since he was relatively cheap. But when the Spurs let him go I figured Mahimni has reached his ceiling, potential wise, so to speak. If Mahimni could average these numbers he put up tonight, for a season, will Pop is look like a idiot for letting him go, or did Pop figure Splitter was an upgrade over Mahimni?

Pop figured Bonner was better than both.

[Mel_13]

So then even discounting Barbosa and Salmons does that make more or less 1st round draft pick busts by the Spurs?

I was responding to the part where you talked about the former Spurs first rounders that have been given away and gone on to play to play useful roles on other teams.

Beno is the only one that meets that description.

[DPG21920]

I already said det

[Mel_13]

Do you realize this is his 6 season in the NBA

It's his 4th season.

[The Tough Brets]

Why else would we devote so much effort towards improving a player if not to aggrandize the strength of our major divisional rival?

I think we're missing a key takeaway from the OP: Cant_Be_Faded's use of the word 'aggrandize' really adds a touch of sophistication to the forum.

Way to add some erudition up in here!

[gospursgojas]

It's his 4th season.

I was going by draft year.

[DesignatedT]

It has to do with you hatin' on people when you have no track record of being correct. Not many of us do.

But the point is, Ian has talent. Will he ever reach his potential? Not sure. But that doesn't mean some of us don't think there was a missed opportunity. The fact he may or may not work out is irrelevant to me. The point is there was not enough opportunity for multiple reasons to know one way or the other.

Not hating anymore... just find the situation humorous. It's too late now for it too matter anyway but I will say one thing... If we meet them in the playoffs, I hope they continue to go to Ian over their other bigs, I know that much.

[gospursgojas]

I think we're missing a key takeaway from the OP: Cant_Be_Faded's use of the word 'aggrandize' really adds a touch of sophistication to the forum.

Way to add some erudition up in here!

Epilazication.

See, I can make up words too.

[Mel_13]

I was going by draft year.

Then this is Tiago's 4th season.

[DPG21920]

You should just stop. You don't get anything right.

[jjktkk]

Pop figured Bonner was better than both.

Or the combination of Bonner and Splitter is better than Mahimni, which IMO.

[DPG21920]

Then this is Tiago's 4th season.

that guy is a nightmare

[gospursgojas]

You should just stop. You don't get anything right.

You should get over me, and add to the thread.

[DPG21920]

I added 10x more than you just by knowing what I'm talking about. I'm the one who knew about the draft picks being traded. Which you obviously didn't know . You can't even read basic statements.

[TJastal]

Do you realize this is his 6 season in the NBA and he's been playing professionally since he was 17?

Playing time, injuries, age, what other excuses do you all have to give this guy for so far not giving anything but a good game AND DUNK ...don't forget that dunk in that game....against the Nets and another against the warriors?

So? I don't see how that changes the fact that he's only 24. If anything that is a good thing (for Ian & the mavs) because now he is putting all that experience to work.

Ian had some awkward moments and has had his share of foul problems but to me he looks like one of those guys who didn't play basketball till later in life so his his ceiling still hasn't been reached, not even close. He'll only continue to get better and better offensively while his defense (rebounding & shot blocking, rim protection) is already top notch. And that said volumes about Ian that coach Carlisle trusted him instead of a guy they are paying some 52 million dollars over the next 6 years.

[The Tough Brets]

I've said it once, and I'll say it again...

Ian Mahinmi has MAN in his name.

Tiago Splitter has GIRL in his.