Magic/Suns Trade 90% chance going to happen

[kamikazi_player]

Damn, didn't know that trade now with G-Arenas is official now. I don't know about that move.

[Venti Quattro]

I didn't know.

Gee, I didn't know too. Who were involved in this deal?

[IronMaxipad]

Wat

[jeebus]

I guess the Magic think any player is better than Lewis atm....but Arenas??

[Agloco]

Already being discussed in this thread:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168561

[Budkin]

Wow the Magic are going to be stacked... and the Spurs have to play them in a few days...

[Agloco]

Here's a good article that sums things up:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/trueho...rade-breakdown

[DPG21920]

So Hedo was not good enough to give the contract he wanted while he was there, but after a year and a half of his play justifying that call, they take him back.

Interesting.

[pauls931]

It makes no sense for Phoenix to hold onto Nash or Grant Hill at this point. For that matter it didn't the second they decided to let Amare leave.

I agree. Granted Amare leaving pretty much f'd the Sun's future. I was looking forwards for a Dragic, Amare, Jrich core.... Man this is going to be a long decade.

[pauls931]

The Suns moves are a good sign for them. Sarver made these moves before he hired a real GM, and the GM he brought in made it pretty clear from the get go he knew how bad those moves were with subtle hints. The damage Sarver made to that team is done, at least for their fan's sake they have a new GM who's willing to blow it up immediately and not waste any time hoping the moves magically come together.

Wonder if Sarver was doing favors and had to do them without a GM since any GM in their right mind wouldn't do what he did? Ok, I wasn't really paying attention during that time, but I wonder now.

[angelbelow]

Lol wow.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm interested in seeing what happens with a few of these parts:

- Are the Suns going to buy Carter out?..while he's no longer good enough to be a top option, he's still good enough to be an elite 6th man for a team that needs offense, or a top 3 option on a low-seed playoff team..

- Where does Nash go?..it seems logical that he's gone..I can't really think of any team that would make the move for him though, off the top of my head..

- Is Orlando going to trade Nelson?..he's a difficult player to work around, since he ALWAYS needs the ball in his hands, and he over-dribbles as much as any player in the NBA..Vince always played better in games that Nelson missed, like Turkoglu before, so I'm wondering how Arenas and Turkoglu are going to look next to him..

[MaNu4Tres]

- Is Orlando going to trade Nelson?..he's a difficult player to work around, since he ALWAYS needs the ball in his hands, and he over-dribbles as much as any player in the NBA..Vince always played better in games that Nelson missed, like Turkoglu before, so I'm wondering how Arenas and Turkoglu are going to look next to him..

IMO Nelson has to go. I agree with everything you said about him, which makes him a very poor fit with the new pieces.

I'd personally call Charlotte to see if they'd be interested in having a better point guard than D.J Augustine.

If so, I'd ask for Ty Thomas in return or possibly Nazr's expiring contract and a 1st rounder. Maybe even Stephen Jackson straight up.

[Shank]

Nash to the Knicks makes sense.

[TD 21]

Yeah, Carter can't be long for the Suns, because they're overloaded on the wings. I don't think they'll want Childress out of the rotation for long (which is where he'll be the way the roster is now).

The Suns have much better balance now. Once they get rid of Carter, sure they'll lack a go to scorer (not that he's it), but they can start Nash, Pietrus, Hill, Frye and either Lopez or Gortat, then come in with Dragic, Childress, Dudley, Warrick and either Gortat or Lopez.

For the Magic, I've got to think they're not done. They're not balanced at all. Too many wings and points, no backup five and no one who can even pretend to be a wing stopper. Nelson could very well be next, so that Richardson can stay at the two and Turkoglu can stay at the three (with Arenas sliding to point).

As for the Wizards, this trade makes sense. Sure, Lewis has fallen off the face of the earth and has a terrible contract, but he helps balance out their team better and is a good fit, as a catch-and-shoot guy. They needed to rid themselves of Arenas and this was most likely the only option there was going to be to do so. Now they can move on.

For the most part, I like it for all three teams, except for the Magic taking on Turkoglu. Maybe that was the price to getting Richardson, though. If the Magic can parlay Nelson and maybe something minor into a wing stopper type and a decent backup five, they'll be serious threats to win the championship.

[JamStone]

Assuming for the moment that they don't also trade Nelson, is Arenas the 6th man? I would assume so.

Nelson / Arenas / Duhon
J-Rich / Re
Hedo / Q-Rich / Earl Clark
Bass / Ryan Anderson
Howard / Malik Allen?

Really would appear they have to deal Jameer, preferably for a back-up center.

[angelbelow]

Perhaps swing Nelson for a big man is in the works.. I can't see them having such a weak front court if they want to take on the Celtics.

[ducks]

knick will call about nash again

[Amarelooms]

Desperate move that means your team is not a contender. You can't trade half your team and expect to win lol.....nice panic job Orlando. If they were smart they would have traded Howard

[Muser]

Desperate move that means your team is not a contender. You can't trade half your team and expect to win lol.....nice panic job Orlando. If they were smart they would have traded Howard

[LnGrrrR]

Nash to the Knicks makes sense.

Don't the Heat need a good PG?

[TD 21]

Desperate move that means your team is not a contender. You can't trade half your team and expect to win lol.....nice panic job Orlando. If they were smart they would have traded Howard

Yeah, but they needed to. It's probably unlikely (even if they trade Nelson and possibly a spare part or two for a backup five and/or wing defender) they it all comes together this season for the Magic, but it doesn't need to.

These moves will make Howard happy, he'll more than likely re-sign and once he does that, they have a fairly extensive window, so long as Arenas' knee holds up. Him and Richardson aren't yet thirty, Howard is still only twenty-five and many of their key role players aren't yet thirty, either.

So big deal if it doesn't happen this season (it wasn't going to as they were constructed anyway), they've improved their chances for the next few seasons at least and most likely insured that they'll have one of the top few building blocks in the league locked up long term.

[Budkin]

Desperate move that means your team is not a contender. You can't trade half your team and expect to win lol.....nice panic job Orlando. If they were smart they would have traded Howard

Howard??

[ohmwrecker]

This trade makes Orlando only marginally better at best. They have a more dependable shooter in Turkoglu and Richardson is arguably better better than Carter at this point. They will miss Gortat though. Earl Clark is unlikely to soften that blow.
The trade makes no sense for Phoenix. It feels like a rebuild move, but they keep Nash and Hill? They should've moved Nash and Hill to Orlando for Arenas. That would make more sense from a rebuilding point of view. They need a post scorer and shooters . . . so they get rid of their two best shooters and replace the blackhole of a post presence loss left by Amare with Gortat? Phoenix just traded out of the playoffs.
I actually think that Rashard Lewis got the best deal he gets to play on young, energetic team and it should probably do his game some good.

[Muser]

Richardson is >>>>>>>>>>>>>. Carter.