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    I'm beginning to think you're one of those old-timers, still pissed that Dave decided not to re-enter the draft -- likely finding his way to LA.

    I'd say he was quite a bit more successful with a supporting cast that rivaled the crews KG was getting pitied for the majority of his time in Minnesota. Difference is, Dave never had the type of media and fan backing of KG that excused or took pity on him for the team's he led -- because he was that damn good; he set a standard that expected greatness regardless of cir stance.

    Remember those teams Kobe had in between Shaq and Gasol? Yeah. ... It matters.
    It does matter, but the Spurs were consistently winning 50+ games in the 90's against a Flavor-of-the-year conference. I don't think it's a lot to ask for them to make just one finals, or more than one WCF.

    IIRC The D-Rob led Spurs lost around 4 playoff series where they had the HCA. If they were good enough to attain that record and secure HCA, then why didn't they win the series they were supposed to? He's a great player, and as the face of the franchise at the time he must share a large part of the responsibility for playoff failures.

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    Say what you will about the Lakers, but they rarely ever lose a series that they enter with HCA (the 2004 Finals is actually all I recall at the moment)

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    Say what you will about the Lakers, but they rarely ever lose a series that they enter with HCA (the 2004 Finals is actually all I recall at the moment)
    Newsflash: They won't be getting HCA in the WCF.

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    Say what you will about the Lakers, but they rarely ever lose a series that they enter with HCA (the 2004 Finals is actually all I recall at the moment)

    Well, the Spurs have never lost a Finals...

    so.... that and two bucks will get you a grande roast at Starbucks.

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    Newsflash: They won't be getting HCA in the WCF.
    I'm not worried...2 of the last 4 series against the Spurs were sans HCA and LAL took care of business. The Spurs want no part of LAL in a best of 7

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    I'm not worried...2 of the last 4 series against the Spurs were sans HCA and LAL took care of business. The Spurs want no part of LAL in a best of 7
    That I'll agree with.

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    Well, the Spurs have never lost a Finals...

    so.... that and two bucks will get you a grande roast at Starbucks.
    The Spurs would have to get by the Lakers to get there, and last I checked Pop is Phil's .

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    The Spurs would have to get by the Lakers to get there, and last I checked Pop is Phil's .
    Not necessarily.

    Obviously you don't know much about the way the playoffs work.

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    The Spurs would have to get by the Lakers to get there, and last I checked Pop is Phil's .
    Last I checked Lakers haven't won a series without HCA since '04...
    And or not, Pop already left Phil, Kome and Fish crying...

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    Not necessarily.

    Obviously you don't know much about the way the playoffs work.
    Obviously you don't dwell in reality if you think another team is going to knock off the Lakers for you. But please, lend us your theories...

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    Lakers prey on a handful of sub .500 teams at home and then come talking... how many teams over .500 have you guys beat this season?

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    Last I checked Lakers haven't won a series without HCA since '04...
    And or not, Pop already left Phil, Kome and Fish crying...
    Great, he's only 1-4 against Phil now...you wanna cookie?

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    Great, he's only 1-4 against Phil now...you wanna cookie?
    Nope, I'll take the

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    Lakers prey on a handful of sub .500 teams at home and then come talking... how many teams over .500 have you guys beat this season?
    Probably none, and we both know it don't mean jack come playoff time. All flaws are exposed in the postseason.

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    Nope, I'll take the
    Well I'm afraid you'll have to do without, again

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    Probably none, and we both know it don't mean jack come playoff time. All flaws are exposed in the postseason.
    Of course, regular season doesn't matter

    That's why the Lakeshow runs intensive practices and circle days in the calendar

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    Obviously you don't dwell in reality if you think another team is going to knock off the Lakers for you. But please, lend us your theories...
    Well, you state opinion as a matter-of-fact. I address it as such.

    I couldn't give two s about your opinion on who's going to not beat the Lakers. It's no ing shocker that a Flaker troll swears that no one will ever beat the Lakers. Offer something more substantial than your unhealthy infatuation with Kobe. You come across like a 12 year old infatuated girl on a Facebook site.

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    It does matter, but the Spurs were consistently winning 50+ games in the 90's against a Flavor-of-the-year conference. I don't think it's a lot to ask for them to make just one finals, or more than one WCF.

    IIRC The D-Rob led Spurs lost around 4 playoff series where they had the HCA. If they were good enough to attain that record and secure HCA, then why didn't they win the series they were supposed to? He's a great player, and as the face of the franchise at the time he must share a large part of the responsibility for playoff failures.
    You ever see Dave about his teammates or duck responsibility? Did you happen to see the press-conference after the loss to the Rockets?

    The Spurs were winning 50+ games because of Dave. Many of those teams had no business winning 50 games, and that's been said by some of his contemporaries (opposing players and coaches).

    LA, Portland, Utah ... those were teams. They had depth and great coaching. You know full well how different regular-season and post-season success are. Usually once the Spurs got to the playoffs, teams would just load up on D-Rob and completely expose his supporting cast and coaching. Had Dave decided to re-enter the Draft -- something I'm sure most people would have decided to do given the options -- your Lakers may have very well prevented Jordan from that first 3-peat.

    And let's get this straight, I've already told you I believe Hakeem deserves to be a little higher on the all-time pecking order than Dave. I'm not arguing anything with regards to that belief. But there's a lot of misperception with regards to the type of player Dave was -- how truly great he was -- on account of the Rockets series and all the highlights played since.

    The guy played in San Antonio -- no one cared to set the record straight unless they were a Spurs or Robinson fan.

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    Well I'm afraid you'll have to do without, again
    This is not Mavland. We have 4... including destroying the Lakers on two of those. We know what it takes.

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    Well, you state opinion as a matter-of-fact. I address it as such.

    I couldn't give two s about your opinion on who's going to not beat the Lakers. It's no ing shocker that a Flaker troll swears that no one will ever beat the Lakers. Offer something more substantial than your unhealthy infatuation with Kobe. You come across like a 12 year old infatuated girl on a Facebook site.
    What do you have to offer but hope and prayer that someone else knocks LAL off? They're already the #2 seed in the WC after about 3 months of some of the most uninspired basketball you will ever watch. It's really not fair, tbh.

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    Of course, regular season doesn't matter

    That's why the Lakeshow runs intensive practices and circle days in the calendar
    If the regular season mattered then Robinson wouldn't have choked on Hakeem's in the 1995 WCF, no?

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    What do you have to offer but hope and prayer that someone else knocks LAL off? They're already the #2 seed in the WC after about 3 months of some of the most uninspired basketball you will ever watch. It's really not fair, tbh.
    What do I have to offer? You claimed the Spurs would have to go through the Lakers. I said not necessarily at which time you grabbed your pom poms and started with the cheerleading.

    Back up your talk or shut up. Say something that makes sense, anything.

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    If the regular season mattered then Robinson wouldn't have choked on Hakeem's in the 1995 WCF, no?
    Oh you are 12...

    If the regular season didn't matter, Robinson wouldn't be in the WCF.

    I guess Ben Wallace owns Shaq, or maybe Chauncey owns Kobe.

    Hey, who was that crying to S. A. Smith about wanting to be traded a few years back? Never saw Robinson do that.

    It's really easy to be a corporate fan, always aware that your mega franchise will make the deals, regardless of cost, to get your team back to the level it was. , anyone could do that. However, the Spurs have not purchased ONE ring, not one. We won them all. Your team went out multiple times and bought star caliber players, a star caliber coach and then sat back and bragged about how good they were.

    Now Miami is doing the same thing and I have seen dozens of you Laker Fakers about it. Meanwhile the Spurs keep building teams and developing players that we find in places other than the front page of Sports Illustrated.

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    You ever see Dave about his teammates or duck responsibility? Did you happen to see the press-conference after the loss to the Rockets?

    The Spurs were winning 50+ games because of Dave. Many of those teams had no business winning 50 games, and that's been said by some of his contemporaries (opposing players and coaches).

    LA, Portland, Utah ... those were teams. They had depth and great coaching. You know full well how different regular-season and post-season success are. Usually once the Spurs got to the playoffs, teams would just load up on D-Rob and completely expose his supporting cast and coaching. Had Dave decided to re-enter the Draft -- something I'm sure most people would have decided to do given the options -- your Lakers may have very well prevented Jordan from that first 3-peat.

    And let's get this straight, I've already told you I believe Hakeem deserves to be a little higher on the all-time pecking order than Dave. I'm not arguing anything with regards to that belief. But there's a lot of misperception with regards to the type of player Dave was -- how truly great he was -- on account of the Rockets series and all the highlights played since.

    The guy played in San Antonio -- no one cared to set the record straight unless they were a Spurs or Robinson fan.
    Dude I think we're ultimately arguing on the same side here. D-Rob was great but Hakeem was just a little better and more well-rounded. Agreed.

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    This Laker team is simply not the same as last season. I thought they were when the season started, tbh.

    Anybody has a shot at Staples these days (well, except the Cavs), and they keep deluding themselves with Gasol 'just coasting', when they've run him to the ground early on. Too many miles on those legs in the past few seasons.
    Bynum is a ticking bomb, Fish is a gift that keeps on giving and he can't even score at a decent clip anymore, the bench turned out to be a turd, and Kome can shoot them out of any game plus he likes to roam on D because he can't stay in front of anybody anymore.

    Not impressed nor scared with this edition of the Lakeshow.

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