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  1. 02-03-2011 #76
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    @johnhollinger Pau Gasol, Rajon Rondo and Kevin Garnett have All-Star pages up on NBA.com. I tried every suspect and only those three names worked. 6 minutes ago
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    http://www.nba.com/allstar2011/players/rajon_rondo.html
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    http://www.nba.com/allstar2011/players/pau_gasol.html
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  3. 02-03-2011 #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by eric365
    @johnhollinger Pau Gasol, Rajon Rondo and Kevin Garnett have All-Star pages up on NBA.com. I tried every suspect and only those three names worked. 6 minutes ago
    Nice find.

    Question, who were the last great really good Defensive PG's? Out of those guys how many were top 5 PG's?
    The last two pretty damn good defensive PG's I could think of are: GP and Jkidd (young version).

    Stockton to me was overrated defensively (underrated as a clutch player though ...guy used to piss me off!!!).

    Most of the really good PG defenders (Greg Anthony, Nate McMillan) were just OK offensively ...
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  4. 02-03-2011 #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killakobe81
    Nice find.

    Question, who were the last great really good Defensive PG's? Out of those guys how many were top 5 PG's?
    The last two pretty damn good defensive PG's I could think of are: GP and Jkidd (young version).

    Stockton to me was overrated defensively (underrated as a clutch player though ...guy used to piss me off!!!).

    Most of the really good PG defenders (Greg Anthony, Nate McMillan) were just OK offensively ...
    best defender at the PG spot was lindsey hunter. limited offensively but I still remember him hitting some big shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugen
    best defender at the PG spot was lindsey hunter. limited offensively but I still remember him hitting some big shots.
    thought of him too after I posted ...
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  6. 02-03-2011 #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killakobe81
    Also not sure if any of you guys have done spoken word, or were involved in compe ive debates, or mock trials...
    Did both actually. Nerds unite!

    There used to be an awesome poetry slam night at Sam's Burger Joint in San Antonio on Tuesday nights.
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  7. 02-03-2011 #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killakobe81
    I get what you are saying but of course Dave Berri (and Wayne winston) is going to say his system (that is why I compared to BCS) is better and poke holes at Holly's ...

    Most useful stat I have seen is adjusted plus/minus FOR lineup combinations. I think i saw Wayne use it first. Not syaing he invented, but saw an article and thought as a coach that would be the most useful.

    Because in reality simple plus/minus ina va doesnt tell you . Neal/Brown could come in when Duncan or Pau are rolling vs. second string big men and have better plus/minus than manu or Kobe yet they did the heavy work against defensive stoppers.

    Looking at lineup combinations can tell you which "group" of lineups have the most impact on winning. who cares who did the heavy lifting as long as the group functioned well?

    Most of this other stuff I would only use if i was a front-office guy arguing salary ... "well yes you averaged 20 butyour PER ranked (blank)" out of PG's "
    I think there's everything out there. I could see how a guy like Cuban, with his background would be much more obsessed with numbers than, say, a guy like Pop.

    That said, I think at this point no pro team really overlooks statistical analysis anymore. Some will give it more weight than others, and nobody claims it's the magic formula, but it certainly enrichs the decision process.
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  8. 02-03-2011 #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Orton
    He's a much better defender than Parker and is averaging more assists than Parker ever has (even counting his fluke 09 season).

    lol Parkaluvas calling other PGs overrated
    I don't even think Tony is a top 5 PG at the moment...
    You're barking at the wrong tree...
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  9. 02-03-2011 #84
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    Y! Sources: Western Conference All-Star reserves: T. Duncan, P. Gasol, R. Westbrook, B. Griffin, M. Ginobili, D. Nowitzki, and D. Williams.
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  10. 02-03-2011 #85
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    Y! Sports has obtained list of All-Star reserves. Eastern Con: R. Allen, P. Pierce, R. Rondo, K. Garnett, C. Bosh, A. Horford, J. Johnson,
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  11. 02-03-2011 #86
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    Who's replacing Yao?
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    nice...
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  13. 02-03-2011 #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisRichards
    Who's replacing Yao?
    Tyson Chandler

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  14. 02-03-2011 #89
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    Love should be in over Duncan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amarelooms
    Tyson Chandler

    Should be Love. If Stern wants to honor LA players then it may be Odom.


    Word has it its going to be Steve Nash though.
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  16. 02-03-2011 #91
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    where the fck is kevin love
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    LaMarcus should be on the team instead of Duncan. That's a TRAVESHAMOCKERY!
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  18. 02-03-2011 #93
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    LaMarcus has been WAY BETTER than Love also!
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    I figured it would end up being one of Love or Griffin. I just thought whoever they selected would take TD's spot.
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    So now word word who Stein picked?
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  21. 02-03-2011 #96
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    Love should have gotten in over Dirk and Duncan. Duncan out rebounds, assists, steals and blocks Dirk in far less minutes and is on the best team in the league record wise and anchors the defense. So Love should have beat them both.
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  22. 02-03-2011 #97
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    Tim Duncan should do the right thing and withdraw from the All Star team. He has no business being there.
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  23. 02-03-2011 #98
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    aldridge really hadnt started playing well till the last few weeks love is an allstar no fckn doubt
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    Phoenix's Steve Nash is a strong favorite to replace the injured Yao Ming on the Western Conference roster, sources told Y! Sports
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  25. 02-03-2011 #100
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    I don't think Kevin Love should get it. His team has 3 more wins than Cavs,great all star players make their teams better. I would have to go with Aldridge
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