why are native texas so proud?

[phyzik]

Point taken, but I was talking about them white folks who can trace their roots to early colonists. It means your ancestors owned slaves in this country and most likely abused them mercilessly into a very early death.

If your family is Southern based, then your ancestors most likely fought and killed their countrymen for the right to own human beings.

Its neither here nor there in 2011, really what can you do about what folks from the past did?

But my ancestry wouldnt be something I'd go around bragging about either.

Actually, and I'll have to search for it to prove it, but my family was part of the underground railroad as well. The Ponton Family extends all throughout North and South America, Europe, Germany, Scottland and Ireland and probably more.

As I said, my Aunt had all kinds of crazy info following our family history. I remember bits and pieces, but again, I was like 11 years old and didnt really give a at the time.

If your asking if Im proud that my family, at some point, may have owned slaves? no! I never said that and it has nothing to do whatsoever on the point I was trying to make.

I can be proud of one part of my family history and still be ashamed about another part... They are not connected in any way.

[DarkReign]

Actually, and I'll have to search for it to prove it, but my family was part of the underground railroad as well. The Ponton Family extends all throughout North and South America, Europe, Germany, Scottland and Ireland and probably more.

As I said, my Aunt had all kinds of crazy info following our family history. I remember bits and pieces, but again, I was like 11 years old and didnt really give a at the time.

If your asking if Im proud that my family, at some point, may have owned slaves? no! I never said that and it has nothing to do whatsoever on the point I was trying to make.

I can be proud of one part of my family history and still be ashamed about another part... They are not connected in any way.

Meh, it wasnt an attack on you specifically, just a general mindset I have when it comes to family history. Im in this thread only to temper the Texan spirit as it were.

[silverblk mystix]

i was bourne in Sacramento, CA and moved to Texas 2 years ago. Since moving here, I have always heard people "brag" that they are from Texas and always calling people from other states "yankees" and "hippies". what gives? why are native texans so proud?

I hear that also and it makes me cringe...it goes from, "don't mess with texas'' to "proud to be a texan"...

I grew up in texas and then moved away for a long time...coming back now...I do appreciate many things about texas, but that texan pride is NOT one of them.

Labels such as Texan, American, republican,democrat,etc....

are pretty much bull and a lot of people identify THEMSELVES this way and defend it and fight for it and die for it...pretty amazing how stupid and out of touch with reality human beings can get.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Texans are proud because theyre allowed to be. Just the same as anywhere else, but with a stupid accent, large hats and apparently trucks with balls attached to the hitch.

Dont proclaim to be so proud of your history only to piss on it every chance you get.

[MannyIsGod]

So what say you about the folks that are descendent from Mexicans and Germans? My ancestors were not slave owners, and many a proud Mexican fought against Santa Anna. My German heritage is very recent too.

But the one thing that gets lost in the whole Texas Revolution history is that the white man was the illegal immigrant in Texas. Mexico originally allowed them to come into and settle in Texas, but when too many of them arrived, they cut them off and only allowed them into other territories in Mexico. The white man ignored the new laws and continued settling anyway, illegally. Sound familiar?

Really? Your love of the slaughter of thousands of Mexicans wasn't racist enough so now you try with that the Mexicans are taking over the United States in an effort to over through the government now?

You should just stop.

Maybe if the white man in the 1800s had been the victims of a stupid ing drug war applied by the Mexicans you might have a point.

[ManuBalboa]

The above is why Texas reverted to independent governance when the US split up into the old USA east of the Mississippi and the new Allied States of America in the west in the tv show Jericho.

The season/series ended with Jake trying to get the last nuclear bomb to Texas (to the government in San Antonio!) as proof that the evil J&R corporation and the Allied States leadership were behind the nuclear bombs across America. He was rescued by fighter jets from Lackland.

SFIE and I were completely whooping it up when this all went down, because it was so funny.

lmao, I loved the series Jericho. Was cheering quietly inside when it turned out Texas was the Lone Star Third Wheel who was holding things down!