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He meant Polohehemm are you brazilian?
Last Olympic Champion: Argentinahehemm are you brazilian?
Last time a Brazilian club won the Libertadores (S.America equivalent of the Champions League): 2000
Only team in the world that doesn't hold a negative record head to head against Brazil: Argentina
Most Copa America wins (in which Brazil plays): Argentina
Yes of course, Brazil has its trophy cabinet full of silverware, but the Argentinian one has nothing to envy them.
I thik that option will be great for US team
hey u guys rule. But you said OWN. Only Brazil OWNS
Anyway, back to basketball... I think something that should be noted too is the compromise of the players with their country.
If the NBA American players don't give a f*ck about the Olympics, then they shouldn't be called up for the team.
If they don't accept to play their roles, knowing that is impossible to have 5 basketballs at the same time on the court, then they shouldn't be called up.
If I were American, I'd rather see a bunch of college or Americans playing in Europe playing their hearts out, rather than NBA Stars playing lazy, y and effortless basketball (In 2004, only TD and AI were the ones that showed heart).
Curiosly, many Argentinians are posting in this thread. Before some dumbass says that we got too y, I believe it's a consequence of different reasons. The Argentinians take the Olympics and World Championships as the most important tournament, since our local compe ion is good, but constantly suffers the exile of players to Europe and later, to the NBA.
THAT, i have no trouble with. I mean, the team in your city is more representative than a national team, so i can see that happenning.
The thing is NOT sending your best players to an international compe ion just because they'll get tired and their bosses would get very upset (There are no other reasons people, the rest is BS).
Well, we (int'l fans) love to see NBA's stars without "star treatment"
but ...
We also love to see NBA's boys playing like they were alone, killing any other team by 50-60 points
You'll have to prove it someday, by actually winning, or else people would start questioning that...
Hey Argentina, don't get mad at me. I've given your country massive props for the gold medal. It was an amazing accomplishment and nobody can take it away from you.
Why not just let the rest of the world fight for the gold from now on? Honestly, people in the US wouldn't care even if the players brought home the gold medal. Most people here got what they wanted by the US losing. There is no attachment to the national team. Let college players try to win it or overseas Americans or whatever.
But I'm sure the US will send another band of NBA players there next time. And unless they do a great job in the selection process and get ample time to practice, they'll probably get run off the court again by Argentina and other teams ... while Americans laugh at them. Why waste the time? Unless the best of the best go, the US isn't good enough anymore to throw a team together and practice a week or two and then go out and beat teams that have been playing together since they were kids. It's not possible and it's probably a good thing that it's not possible.
I'd love to watch a game between NBA Champ. vs EuroLigue Champ. So that NBA can probe that they're the real world champions. Just for fun.
Nice trick, but nobody here doubts the NBA is the strongest league in the World.
Since basketball is played by 5 at a time AND it isn't about money, national teams have more chances in beating USA. Fair is fair.
Although it has been done before (McDonald's open) and there wasn't such a big difference IIRC. I bet any Euroleague champion can take 80% of NBA teams.
Keep smokin'.
Yeah... but i guess we'll never know... coz the little children dont wanna play with the boys from other countries, they're afraid they might get hurt and their bossies can kick their little asses.
Under NBA rules? The NBA team would OWN RAP3 PW3N the Euroleague team.
Under FIBA rules? The Euroleague team would have a chance, but currently, the Spurs or the Pistons are a better TEAM than whatever mix of superstars USA Basketball could draft.
The Euroleague champion would only have a chance against teams who finished below the .500 mark in the regular season, if the game is played under FIBA rules.
Yeah... but i guess we'll never know... coz the little children dont wanna play with the boys from other countries, they're afraid they might get hurt and their bossies can kick their little asses.
Tengo familia en la Argentina así que he estado arraigando para la Argentina en competiciones nacionales puesto que puedo recordar. Mi abuelo jugó en la taza del mundo para la Argentina así que los flujos de la sangre azules y blancos. Pero no diga cualquier persona aquí porque piensan que estoy contra los E.E.U.U..
Tengo familia en la Argentina así que he estado arraigando para la Argentina en competiciones nacionales puesto que puedo recordar. Mi abuelo jugó en la taza del mundo para la Argentina así que los flujos de la sangre azules y blancos. Pero no diga cualquier persona aquí porque piensan que estoy contra los E.E.U.U..
Top players do not always want to go. Even in Europe. Even in soccer. That is the reality. But rich players cannot be protected from media or other civil supervision. So lazy Shaq who is payed beyond reason, but would not play for national team shouldn't be given great media coverage. Serving your country is an important part of Sport pro game.
Somebody said, Americans should not spit on their team. You know what, when they are paid like that, and perform way off, then critics are natural and important. Player that cannot live up to critics, is a coward!
To timvp:
All basketball players are paid for playing. Your college players are even more dependent on their future salary as NBA players. They representing USA Basketball is just saying NBA players are cowardice men who look after big money instead of their pride or money people pay for the daily execution of top quality basketball. If Olympics should not be about such basketball, then what are they for?
There is no simple way of putting it. Money is in every sport.
That is BS. In playoff mode this would be an even matchup. Maccabi would own Suns, that is certain. Tau would be a good matchup againts Detroit. Panathinaikos with Sabonis (they would get a big guy for this kind of series) or his kind of big man would perhaps be best againts Spurs. Manu has traditional problems with Greek teams.
So difference is not so staggering.
Man, you must be high as humanly possible to post that. Those matchups wouldn't even be close. The NBA team could play those teams 100 times and win 100 times. Are you freakin' kidding me?
Luis Scola might be a good player in the NBA, but I doubt he'd lead a scrub Euro team over the Pistons. Come on now. Maceo Baston, Anthony Parker and a bunch of Israelis are not going to beat the Suns. And 82 year old Arvydas Sabonis and the rest of the Greek team wouldn't be able to hang within 40 points of the Spurs.
I appreciate your love for your country or continent or whatever, but lets be realistic. Please.
Don't be so sure. Even Spurs have had bad day or something otherwise they couldn't lost to Memphis etc.
I don't agree with zeleni but neither with timvp.
high? as sober as I can be.
1.Timvp, here is only one problem, NBA rules are far off international ones. Euroleague club' players would be in advantage. Sun game would be less wild, "eurozone" defense is quite a different thing, so 3 point shooting must be lethal to beat that defense. Suns with Quentin would be in same then TAU with Macijauskas (sorry for spelling).
2.Playoff mode means 7 games. I can bet Suns-Maccabi would be at least 40-60, but first games would be cetrainly for Maccabi. Strategicaly Maccabi's potential is something quite different then Phoenix. Believe me, NBA is out of this world b/c of nothing more the financial reasons.
3.NBA having players coming directly in NBA makes them on the top of the world. But they are just athletes for money. So proving every day is the only way a guy can say he is worth playing in the best league in the world. So how many players that are proving themselves in NBA, make themselves open for cross-examination? So best players are the one in NBA, couse NBA is the best, and every player in the NBA is by so elite just for being an NBA player? Seems absurd, doesn't it? That would mean that Darko Milicic is better for being in Detroit the he would be if he played in French league and dominated? Even then one can ask if he would play in Euroleague...
Last edited by zeleni; 06-04-2005 at 10:53 AM.
if we annex canada then i would give the PG to nash but since we haven't YET then here is my team
A.I
Lebron J
KObe
KG
and amare studamare from the sunnys.. yes playing him as a 5 i think we can play a more athlitec dunking style no need for shaq
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