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since we have guys who can play even without knee ligaments why not take a chance ?
Butler is a 6-7 small forward and the Spurs say he'll be placed on the inactive list.
since we have guys who can play even without knee ligaments why not take a chance ?
This...Props to ace3g for bringing the idea of signing him.
I really like this signing. Spurs had no need for this year so getting a player with next year in sight was the right move. Da'Sean Butler looks more intriguing that some random D-Leaguer Spurs could have signed.
BTW, an healthy Butler could be better than what is available at #30 in this year draft.
That's the shizzle right there...It appears as thought the Front Office has heard all of the youth moment cries for the Spurs world.
1 Tiago Splitter
2 Ryan Richards
3 DeJuan Blair
4 James Anderson
5 George Hill
6 Gary Neal
7 Danny Green
8 De'Sean Butler
9 Chris Quinn (that's right)
That is some size and talent to sustain and build with.
Parker, Bonner, Jefferson and Novak should all have 3 to 6 years left.
Duncan, Ginobili and McDyess 2 to 3 years left.
Now I just wonder how many of these guys will still be Spurs in three years?
I'm interested in the contract details for some of those...
Not yet updated for Novak, Green, and Butler, but best source for that info:
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/spurs.jsp
It's not about wanting/looking to, it's about (if Butler get's back to where he was pre-injury and shows he's got back end rotation player potential) now potentially having the depth to do that. Between Ginobili, Jefferson, Hill, Neal, Anderson and Butler, the Spurs would be over stocked with quality depth on the wings (plus, not that these players qualify as quality depth, but they still have Green, could bring back Hairston and if the best player available at 30 is a wing, I presume they'd take them, so there's the potential that they could have another useful wing waiting in the wings).
If a second big, who could be a good fit, is available via trade, between Blair, Anderson, McDyess' expiring contract and their 1st round pick, the Spurs potentially now have enough assets to be able to acquire that type of player, without decimating their depth.
As much as I like Anderson's potential and think he's a good fit, if Neal continues playing this well, there's not going to be rotation minutes available in the near future, unless the Spurs expand to the rare ten man rotation next season. Short of that, the only wing who's minutes they'd probably like to slightly cut back, is Ginobili, but say he drops 1-2 minutes next season, that probably just goes to Neal. Anderson might just be superfluous and more of a luxury than a necessity.
Could be a huge steal, if/when he gets healthy. I don't really see it as affecting Anderson or Neal at all.
JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
R.C. Buford on Da'Sean Butler (via @M_Monroe_in_SA): “This signing has absolutely nothing to do with the 2010-11 roster.” #spurs
JMcDonald_SAEN Jeff McDonald
More on Butler from R.C.: “I’d imagine he will be assigned to Austin soon. We need to get an understanding of his situation." #spurs
I love it, the outside the lines video was pretty good, seems personable, and coach-able. Could potentially have a ton of upside for us, can't wait for summer league.
I hear that point, I just don't see what we could get that would be a better value than Anderson. It's not like he has done enough to have front offices climbing over each other in line to get him. If we trade him it would be more of a "giving up on a player" scenario and we are in no way in that situation with him.
That video of his injury still gets me.
Exactly, he was projected to be a top pick till he blew out his knee @ WV!
I'm curious why Miami drafted him, knowing he wouldn't be playing anytime soon, and then proceeded to cut him before the season. It's not like he played his way out of the rotation - he didn't play at all.
If not in a package deal for a second big, then maybe a straight up trade for another young player on his rookie deal, who's not getting a lot of playing time. Maybe someone projected to be late lottery falls to around twenty, they could offer Anderson and their 1st to move up. The point is, it gives the Spurs options, without worrying about decimating their depth. It's not about giving up on him, it's about having the depth, with Neal's emergence and Butler's signing (again, if they're confident/he shows flashes indicating he's going to become what he was projected to become), to fill a hole elsewhere.
Based on their comments, it sounds like Butler is guaranteed for next season. As I suspected. It makes sense, because they're not going to get anything out of him this season. Although, since the guarantee was probably fairly minimal, if they're really underwhelmed with him between now and the start of next season and confident in their depth on the wings, I'm sure they wouldn't hesitate to cut him. I don't expect that to happen, though.
This is so ing awesome, I'm a big Da'Sean Butler fan.
Good signing and I agree for the most part.It appears as thought the Front Office has heard all of the youth moment cries for the Spurs world.
1 Tiago Splitter
2 Ryan Richards
3 DeJuan Blair
4 James Anderson
5 George Hill
6 Gary Neal
7 Danny Green
8 De'Sean Butler
9 Chris Quinn (that's right)
That is some size and talent to sustain and build with.
Parker, Bonner, Jefferson and Novak should all have 3 to 6 years left.
Duncan, Ginobili and McDyess 2 to 3 years left.
Now I just wonder how many of these guys will still be Spurs in three years?
However, the roster still needs some size. Duncan shouldn't have to continue as the lone rim-protector, best rebounder, best interior defender and best low-post scorer. Another big to help offload even a portion of those responsibilities is needed.
wiki listed him as 6'8 234 lbs
cool..then u might be able to tell us all his strengths and weakness....
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/da'sean-butler
Comparison is Rasual Butler.
I haven't seen enough of Butler to say this definitively, but from what I remember seeing and have heard/read about him, Dudley may be a better comparison. Sub par athletically, but a fairly good shooter (though Dudley's become a very good three-point shooter the last two seasons), a solid defender in select match-ups (meaning, not against overly explosive wings), brings intangibles, known as a good character guy.
Last edited by TD 21; 03-25-2011 at 05:18 PM.
Product familiarity and team chemistry are not to be discounted. My point was more general to the folks that immediately said this makes Neal, Anderson, Ghill trade bait.. It doesn't. If we trade him it's because we don't think he will be able to stay healthy..
Whoever this is, he agrees with your comparison to Dudley. He has a lot of information about Butler, but I don't know how reliable the information is. Better than nothing.
http://www.briansbigboard.com/player/da-sean-butler
Apparently he has rather odd shooting mechanics. Hopefully Chip can help him with that.
They cut him because Mike Miller was injured and they needed a wing. their roster was full so they had to waive him before signing Stackhouse. I guess that they weren't also please with his knee recovery.
At the end, it didn't work for Miami. They spend the 42th pick on him and gave him $300K for nothing. On top of that Stackhouse sucked and was cut.
How much familiarity and chemistry has Anderson ac ulated? He's barely been around the team, much less played. I agree that it doesn't automatically make Anderson trade bait. But it frees them up now to trade Anderson without decimating their depth on the wings. If they trade him, it won't be because of health, it'll be because of depth on the wings and not enough depth amongst the bigs, with McDyess likely retiring.
nice no risk move, hopefully he can return to full shape as before the injury, once in college when he was healthy, i compared him to Carlos Delfino, so is a player that could play some if being 100 percent.
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