I agree its not gonna happen.
1. I would bring in Gallenari,W.Chandler or JR. Smith. I would somehow someway bring in one of those three players.
2. Find a big with some weight that could put his body on Bynum. We need to eliminate some of the mismatches.
3. If possible find another athletic big who can shoot a mid range jumper and block shot from the weak side.
Dream-If we could get options 1 and 2. Then find away to get Carl Landry. That guy has offensive talent to make up for what Tim Duncan has lost. He has shown the ability to take Pau Gasol off the dribble. He also can knock down mid-range shots.
Get rid of-
Blair
Bonner
Hill
Anderson
and draft picks
No to JR Smith. This organization is above malcontents like him.
I've been working on this deal with trade machine.
3 team trade spurs/warriors/bucks
Spurs get. Jennings,monta Ellis, and Andrew bogut
Warriors get. Hill,Blair,bonner,mcdyse, and John salmons
Bucks get. Tony Parker, splitter, and James Anderson
This works on trade machine but has spurs at -5 wins
Bucks said that.
Stupid itouch lol
They did, really lol
Castrate the malfunctional .
Format it all you want the Bucks still say NO.
Lol It work just fine
Don't worry Spurs will give him some class. I would take him in a heart beat.
I think it starts with a change to the philosophical approach of the team. With the decline of Tim, Pop decided that it was time to use the strengths of the team and change into a more open and uptempo style. And now we see yet again that just like the Phoenix Suns, the style of play can have success in the regular season, but will generally have trouble in the post season against teams with a more halfcourt style. I think the franchise has to re-assess the change of philosophy going forward. There's nothing wrong with having the ability to get up and down, but a team needs to be able to have the ability to play in a halfcourt style as well. Beyond that, much of the success the Spurs had earlier in the season saw guys like Bonner and Richard Jefferson going crazy from three point land. Once again, we see the old adage is true about living by the three and dying by the three.
Now, taking that into consideration, I don't make major changes to the core. As a Pistons fan, I know what it's like kicking and screaming for change to the core of a team that is successful but seemingly can't get over the top anymore. The Spurs just won 61 games, had a great season for all intents and purposes, and now will seemingly fall to a team that matches up well against them. There is still a lot of positives for this Spurs team. I think the changes need to be philosophical first, and minor roster moves secondly.
I do think they need to do everything they can to ship out Matt Bonner, but he does have three years left on his contract. I don't think Jefferson is tradeable. The only core guy I think could return the Spurs some pretty good value is Tony Parker. But like I said above, I would not be so quick to make major changes to the core.
As well as the philosophical change, I would go into the off-season with this approach:
1. Working all summer with Tiago Splitter to make him a viable option to start. Do whatever it takes, call Hakeem to work with him, let Duncan and David Robinson spend a couple months with him. Whatever it takes. The Spurs made the investment, and now after what seems like a wasted year for him, they should take measures to try to make him a guy they can count on going forward. It's time to use him.
2. Find another back-up big man who has the ability to score in the post. We all know Duncan has started his decline. I don't think he's finished like some do, but he certainly needs help in the frontcourt when it comes to scoring. I think the Bonner experiment has to be over. And as much as I respect him and hoped he could taste a championship, I think it's time for Dice to hang it up. With limited salary to work with, I think the Spurs have to find a cheap option that may surprise. I look at a guy like Carl Landry and although he might not fly under the radar and New Orleans will likely try to keep him, he is a guy who might be affordable and can provide some scoring in the frontcourt. Getting a front court scorer who isn't a three point shooter on the second unit could prove to be very valuable.
3. Add one more legit big for beef and depth. If the Spurs can figure out a way to dump Bonner (have to dump him or Pop will play him if he's on the roster) and Dice retires, then they would still have Duncan, Tiago, Blair, and (as I suggested, someone like) Landry. But as we know, it doesn't hurt to stockpile bigs just in case, especially in the West. A fifth big who has size and beef could also prove valuable. Someone like a Jason Collins or bringing back Nazr on the cheap or even a Magloire, realizing those guys would only be for insurance and to throw at frontcourts like the Lakers.
I think going back to a more halfcourt style and also revamping the frontcourt could put the Spurs back into a better position for the playoffs next season.
I don't think a 60 win season is something to scoff at just because of this first round disappointment. Unless Tim Duncan decides to retire, I think you continue to try to field a team that has a chance to go deep in the playoffs before blowing it all up. I've seen the misery of calling for major changes only to see that having a really good team who doesn't win it all is still better than going through the depression of having a horrible lottery team with no guarantee that it will get back to an elite level even with the changes made. Until Duncan is done for good, you keep the core and try again. You don't blow it all up yet.
My heart yearns for another le run, but my brain says getting stomped by an 8th seed through 4 games has to be a sign of the times, they are a-changin.'
Get bigger, much bigger, and rely on defense once again, instead of our iffy perimeter scoring. That, of course, is the problem. Our guys are looking lost when the pressure is on because they all realize they need to score in order for us to win. Our lack of size and mobile size, at that, has gutted our le-era defense.
Splitter needs to be a starter, and we need another big. Trade Bonner and anyone else outside of the big 3 if necessary for an athletic shotblocker. Maybe even pick up JR Smith also, if possible. Many probably abhor him as a person and I would include myself in that group, but we need a fiery "kid" who can play.
2-year Plan
Trade Parker this off season. And who ever else you can trick to eat Jefferson, Bonner, Blair or Hill. Prob have to package worth (Hill) with garbage (Jefferson/Bonner)
Next off season trade Manu. Duncan retires
I guess we both have eyes for Landry and a beefy big.
I think we need a sg/sf. Chandler or J.R. Smith would be two of the best options.
Yeah, the Spurs need a scoring option down low if the three pointers are not falling. Duncan can provide that sometimes, but need another one when Duncan isn't able to. Landry fits that and seems like he "might" be affordable. But to be sincerely honest, beyond him, it's slim pickings in free agency because bigs who can score (who are not three pointers) aren't exactly easy to find, especially for cheap. That's why my first point about doing everything to get Tiago ready to start and contribute is probably the most important thing the Spurs need to do. Tiago may not ever be a 20 point scoring big, but he's already on the roster and obviously has talent. Need to do everything they can to maximize his abilities so he can produce for the team.
Jamestone what do you think Tiago's numbers will look like?
make blair and splitter play against each
balir would quit getting blocked
then have splitter go against david robinison
In order to move a contract like Bonner but way more so Rj's would be to give the other team something they want. Unfortunately a big 3 player is the only thing that Spurs could offer of value for the other team to even consider Rj's ludicrous contract.
Last edited by Chomag; 04-27-2011 at 03:11 PM.
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Just read an article on hoopshype that new York wants to resign Chandler. Maybe spurs should have traded tp to new York. I'm pretty sure David lee and Chandler would have been more productive than Tony,rj, and bonner.
I guess we both have eyes for Landry and a beefy big.
I think we need a sg/sf. Chandler or J.R. Smith would be two of the best options.
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Fixed.
No idea. I don't watch Spurs games unless they're nationally televised and haven't seen much of Tiago at all. I just know that the Spurs liked him enough to bring him over and he's not a raw 18 year old project. He's actually a proven basketball player. Now whether he can be a quality NBA starter, that's still very much into question. But Pop did him no favors this past season by not giving him much of an opportunity to play meaningful minutes. Based on his Euro stats, it seems like he has the potential to be close to a 20/9 guy if given opportunity and touches. Don't know if he can do that at the NBA level. But I think if he can produce even 15/8 in around 30-32 MPG, that would be a good start.
I think more important than his actual numbers will be his ability to provide some of the intangibles that Duncan can't do nearly as well as he used to. Be good defensively and with younger, more athletic legs, be the primary defender on the opposing team's best big. Even if it's not being a 20 point scorer, be enough of a threat on offense that it opens up the halfcourt for Duncan and shooters not to be doubled so quickly. Be a force on the offensive glass. If he can do the little things well, with his size and youth, it makes what his actual numbers are less important.
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