Terry Porter Says Pistons are Better

[Ball Don't Lie]

Maybe. But it's not a huge advantage for them...technically Brent Barry and Bruce Bowen are the best long distance shooters in this series...And Big Dogg was the best jumpshooter in the NBA(and one of the best ever) prior to last season.




Not a chance in . Theirs is an imitation of ours...

I like the Horry, Duncan, Rasho and Nazr combo better than Wallace squared with Elden and Dice.

The big guy that scares me the most on offense from the Pistons is Dice...he has been a Spur killer in the past. I am not worried about either of the Wallaces and I actually hope Elden Campbell gets a lot of minutes in this series...

Our "imitation" of your defense stopped the Lakers dead in their tracks last year. Funny how the Spurs obviously superior D couldn't do the same...

Also, it is amusing how the Spurs get 3 teams that play no defense in the first 3 rounds, and all of a sudden you guys think that you are an offensive juggernaut. News flash: Over the 82-game season the Spurs averaged 96 PPG and the Pistons averaged 93. Couple that with the fact that we played in the lower scoring East and I would say there is no advantage either way as far as offense is concerned.

[Ball Don't Lie]

I'm not underestimating the Pistons...

I know for a fact the Spurs are more talented though. They are. I don't see how that part is arguable.

Whether or not the Spurs have as much or more heart, or if Pop is a better coach than Brown...those things are definitely up for debate...To say the Pistons have the talent, depth or versatility is just plain ole homerism on your part.

I think you just want to argue...what ever it is that I criticize about the Pistons you will take as the ulitamate slight and defend...even when it isn't....it's either that or you think the Pistons are superior in every way shape or form...either way it's homerism. Right now I see you arguing the unarguable...that your team is close in talent to the Spurs...it isn't. Your best player is considered elite for what he does on one side of the ball...Defense...

Our best player is known for his block scoring ability...yet he's the only guy in NBA history to make first team All NBA Defense his first 8 years in the NBA.

You guys got the shorthand on talent and depth in this series...it's inarguable.


Look at who had the better record...look at the the All Stars(including the reseves who are decided by the coaches)...or, if you like, look at the members of the defensive teams voted on by coaches...How many guys do you have on your bench that could start for a good NBA playoff team? None. The Spurs have at least two. And I'd say it's actually 3 since Horry is and has been a defacto starter his entire career...a career in which he's won 5 rings.


None of this mean the Spurs will win and the Pistons will lose...IMO it only means the Spurs should win and the Pistons should lose...that in no way means that it will happen.

You live in some sort of alternate universe. Please tell me which of your bench players starts on a good playoff team. Name the player and the team he would start for.

PS - you won't be able to do this because your claim is full of .

There is no disparity in talent. You guys definately have the best player. But any objective person would take anyone in our starting five over Bowen or Mohammed. So you guys are top heavy, and we are balanced. If you really believe that there is unquestionably a talent difference, you are delusional. But this might just be the case considering the fact that you think Robert Horry could be a starter on a playoff team.

[cqsallie]

Personally, I don't see how you "choke" away a BEST OF SEVEN SERIES. A game, sure, but a whole series?

Well, the truth is, that neither team is going to choke. I cheered on the Pistons last year - not just because I was cheering against the Lakers. I really love the Pistons, but when push comes to shove - as it will - the Spurs are by far the better team.
I say Spurs in 6. Why? Because they hate to lose and if they lose one game, they'll come back with a vengeance the next. Over all, I pick the Spurs because all of them are better than all of the Pistons. This isn't going to be a starting 5 contest; this is going to be a whole team contest, and when you consider that, the Spurs are the much better Whole Team!

[Ball Don't Lie]

Well, the truth is, that neither team is going to choke. I cheered on the Pistons last year - not just because I was cheering against the Lakers. I really love the Pistons, but when push comes to shove - as it will - the Spurs are by far the better team.
I say Spurs in 6. Why? Because they hate to lose and if they lose one game, they'll come back with a vengeance the next. Over all, I pick the Spurs because all of them are better than all of the Pistons. This isn't going to be a starting 5 contest; this is going to be a whole team contest, and when you consider that, the Spurs are the much better Whole Team!

Honestly - does it really get any dumber than this?

[cqsallie]

You guys definately have the best player. But any objective person would take anyone in our starting five over Bowen or Mohammed. So you guys are top heavy, and we are balanced. If you really believe that there is unquestionably a talent difference, you are delusional. But this might just be the case considering the fact that you think Robert Horry could be a starter on a playoff team.

You are just so silly!
The Spurs aren't top-heavy in the least. We are the most balanced team in the NBA - and the most talented - and the most integrated.
The Spurs can literally clear the bench and there won't be a dip in performance. I don't know where you're getting your information, but the word is that the Spurs have the deepest bench in the league. And yes, Horry should probably start because nobody is hungrier and more alive when the ring is on the line that Big Shot Rob. I'd hang my hopes on him any day of the week - but mostly on a day when the championship was on the line.
Bring it on, Pistons! I may love you personally and I may have been your greatest fan when you were battling for the Eastern Conference le, but reality bites: You are now facing my Spurs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sense]

I have perused this messageboard for months now, but haven't posted a response until tonight, on this eve of this very special NBA Finals. Now, I will admit that I did not read this entire thread, but I do wish to address a few things.

Spurs fans are supremely confident that their team is better than the Pistons. And, they are very well justified in thinking so. The Spurs team is excellent. They have two great go-to, prime time players in TD and Manu. They have a lightning quick point guard, steady role players, and plenty of depth. Coming from a Pistons fan, the Spurs are an absolutely amazing team.

HOWEVER, for those of you Spurs fans who haven't been able to watch a lot of Detroit games this season until some of the playoff games on TNT, there are some things that have become misconceptions about this Detroit team. They have been somewhat addressed in this thread, so I'd like to clarify:

1. "The Detroit offense is not good, and sometimes anemic." While admittingly the Pistons have had had scoring problems at times, one must understand that EVERY NBA team will have it's problems scoring from time to time. The Detroit offense is actually very well balanced. In these playoffs, all five starters have led the team in scoring at least one game. When the Pistons play the way they are capable of playing, they share the ball and they will have 5 or 6 players in double digits, but only one or two that have 20+ points.

2. "The Spurs will be able to sag off of Ben Wallace and double off of him." Philadelphia tried that and Ben Wallace scored 29 points. Indiana didn't learn from that and Ben Wallace had a 21 point game. He even can make a 15 foot jumper from time to time. Ben is certainly not a consistent offensive option, but he is not the liability he used to be.

3. "Since Rasheed is the Pistons' best post player and likes to take jumpshots, the Pistons will have problems scoring inside." While Rasheed has the skill to be the Pistons' best post player, Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince are actually the most effective post up players and will take advantage of mismatches.

4. "The Spurs have a huge advantage over the Pistons with respect to the benches." While the Spurs definitely have more depth and absolutely have a better bench, the bench play and production will only be a major factor if the Pistons get in foul trouble or have an injury to one of its seven main rotation players. Supposedly, the Miami Heat had a clear advantage in that area as well, but if you look at the statistics, Miami's bench played more minutes, but the Pistons bench had nearly the same production. The Piston starters all play 35-42 minutes per game, and Tayshaun and Rip sometimes play nearly the whole game. That's where the conditioning comes in. San Antonio uses its bench more, and therefore, the production is that much more important. But, the bench is not nearly the factor some people think it is, UNLESS foul trouble or injury come into play.


ANYWAY, those are just a couple of points. Some of you Spurs fans may have watched a lot of Pistons games. But, perhaps some of you haven't and have this misconception about the Pistons from what the media and especially what ESPN and TNT analysts seem to say. There is some merit to what they say. But, don't believe everything you've heard.

The Spurs are the best team in the league. But, the Pistons will give them all they have and I think it will be an exciting series. Of course, I think the Pistons will win, and I hope the Pistons win, but we'll just have to wait to see.

I couldn't disrespect the Spurs like some Spurs fans do the Pistons. Just making it to the NBA Finals says a lot about both teams.

You are only one of the 2 detroit pistons so far that hasn't gone balls to the walls saying

" THE DETROIT PISTONS ARE GONNA BEAT THE SPURS AND WE WILL REPEAT"...


This forum has always predicted series... I really don't know what you expect the spurs fans to say about the pistons... most of us do think they are the toughest team in the NBA, but tell your "detroit pistons fans" that trolling won't help.

Obviously when you come to this forum most of us expect to talk solely about the Spurs, because we are spurs fans..but to think that most of you guys think you are gonna sweep is completely insane.. I know, It's what we think, but you do know why... The Spurs were favorites last year, and they were this year too.. for a reason.

The Spurs have been one of the most dangerous teams in the NBA since Tim Duncan was drafted, for you to think that the Pistons are gonna win easily with Tim in there, and in the finals is just not right. Last year, perhaps you might say that the Lakers were the better team when they beat the Spurs...but do you really think so?

I really doubt it, I'm sure all of you thought the series was over when we were up 2-0...so yeah, I'll go on and say they choked, too bad.

I just want to point out that I think that you didn't face the best team, then again they beat us...so it's time to show it this time..

I just can't wait for the series to start and you shouldn't either.. but you should remember we have the right to underestimate other teams when we've beaten them before...most people see it as a rivalry, personally I don't.


I couldn't Imagine a better team to play in the finals..and I wanted that last year aswell.

Why don't we just keep the " OMG WE ARE GONNA BEAT YOUR TEAM" comments to a minimum... while the series are in play.

[cqsallie]

Honestly - does it really get any dumber than this?

Ya know what? I'm thinking that you may be one of the Piston fans I blogged with last year. I know how you feel. You beat the WC Lakers! With Shaq, Kobe and Phil still speaking to one another and playing as a team...
This time around you beat the Miami Heat, with Shaq claiming a deep-thigh injury and Dwayne Wade talking about a stabbing pain in his rib-section. This is one reason I wanted the Pistons to beat the Heat. If you had lost the series and the Spurs had been forced to play this sorry, hurting team, we would have forever had to hear about how the Heat would have won if both Shaq and Dwayne had been playing at 100%. You guys took the whine on this one.
So, here you come, facing a totally healthy Spurs team of 12 players who could be starters on any team in the NBA. I'm really sorry, but as much as I admire your team, I don't think the Wallaces, Hamilton, Prince, etc. are gonna get it done.
Once again, Spurs in 6!

[whottt]

Our "imitation" of your defense stopped the Lakers dead in their tracks last year. Funny how the Spurs obviously superior D couldn't do the same...

Our "original" defense won an NBA championshiop 2 years ago...you remember 2 years ago...that's when you guys got swept by the team we beat in the finals.

And you guys didn't stop LA...Kobe did. Ben Wallace didn't come ing close to stopping Shaq....Kobe did.

BTW our offense was why we lost that series....and Kobe's D on Shaq wasn't near as good.



I was as happy to see you guys win as anyone...it's sad that it's totally gone to your head to the point that you didn't notice the Lakers not having any semblance of a PF when Malone wasn't playing, that their two stars were ripping each other all season, and that one of them was holding the franchise hostage.

I'll spell it out for the less observant among us...that team was highly combustible and had tremendous chemistry issues...take note what happened to them this past offseason. And no, it wasn't because you guys beat them, it was going to happen anyway.

Also, it is amusing how the Spurs get 3 teams that play no defense in the first 3 rounds, and all of a sudden you guys think that you are an offensive juggernaut. News flash: Over the 82-game season the Spurs averaged 96 PPG and the Pistons averaged 93.

Um...the Spurs scored the most points in a game this season in the entire NBA..and they did it with Duncan and Manu both not playing.

Um...you guys haven't exactly been playing defensive juggernauts...the ing Sixers give up more points than they score. Indy was not the same team defensively as they were last year...not having the reigning DPOY might have had something to do with it.

And the fact that you guys keep saying the Heat play great D makes me question your basketball a en. Their D consists of them shooting 50% from the field nearly every game limiting o boards and turnovers that benefit their opponents.

Couple that with the fact that we played in the lower scoring East

Let me fix that for you...you played in the tier East...that's where you played. 54 wins gets you the second best record in East. Last year 49 wins got you the second best record..that was the Nuggets record this season....it doesn't even gurantee you HCA in the first round in the West. 45 wins gurantees you HCA in the East...

You play in the tier East...say it like it is...having two good teams does not carry over to the entire conference.

and I would say there is no advantage either way as far as offense is concerned.

And you would be wrong about that...Let's just say for the sake of argument that Billups and Hamilton are better than Manu and Tony...They are still close....Parker got the votes of more than one coach to be the in the All Star Game..Manu made the All Star Game because of the coaches...they both scored 16 PPG...just slightly less than your Champion guard combo...with Duncan getting the most shots on this team...and the did it shooting at a higher PCT.

OTOH...You guys got absolutely squat that can score on the block like Duncan...

Just remember, we played the last 10-15 games of the season without Tim Duncan, without Rasho...and still finished with the second best record in the entire NBA, still outscored you guys on the season...still put up the most points scored in an NBA game this season.

And in fact...we still went into Detroit and dropped a 100 points on you guys during your hottest stretch of the season...

[leemajors]

nice post jamstone, can't wait for this series to actually start. i wish the gap between games for us was a little less, long waits make any team's fans antsy as !

[Ball Don't Lie]

Our "original" defense won an NBA championshiop 2 years ago...you remember 2 years ago...that's when you guys got swept by the team we beat in the finals.

And you guys didn't stop LA...Kobe did. Ben Wallace didn't come ing close to stopping Shaq....Kobe did.

BTW our offense was why we lost that series....and Kobe's D on Shaq wasn't near as good.

This is actually the first time I've seen this excuse. Very creative! I guess I never considered the idea that Kobe threw the series. Silly me.

And in fact...we still went into Detroit and dropped a 100 points on you guys during your hottest stretch of the season...

.....And we scored 110. I thought our offense was mediocre and your defense was invincible?

[whottt]

You live in some sort of alternate universe. Please tell me which of your bench players starts on a good playoff team. Name the player and the team he would start for.

That should be good/playoff team...

Rasho has started for a playoff team every year since about 1999...he started for us last year.

Nazr started for a playoff team last year. Come to think of it...he's starting for a playoff team this year.

Barry started for a playoff team 3 years ago...and the record of his team last season when he was a starter, would have made them an elite playoff team in the "lower scoring" East .

On top of that he started quite a few games of for us in the playoff and this season..and we are nearly undefeated when he does so.

To keep driving this point home...because I can...

Robert Horry has been a defacto starter on 5 NBA champions, and is a defacto starter on this years team...

And then there's Glenn Robinson...you guys can say he's done all you want but his deline had nothing to do with his shooting and everything to do with personal problems...He was an All Star just 3 years ago and he could start for us right now if he were more familiar with the team.

PS - you won't be able to do this because your claim is full of .

Apologize for saying I am full of ...at the very least Rasho and Nazr prove my point....and I gave you 4 guys that could do it.

There is no disparity in talent. You guys definately have the best player. But any objective person would take anyone in our starting five over Bowen or Mohammed.

I pretty much agree with that, in fact I said I would...Well Bruce is different and it's not the cut and dried case you make it out to be...that's like saying it's a no brainer to take Yao over Ben Wallace because he's a better scorer...I don't know about you...but I wouldn't do that...don't be so quick to cast Bruce aside...there are guys on this team that have better stats than Bruce does...they aint starting ahead of him though...and there is a reason for it.

So you guys are top heavy, and we are balanced. If you really believe that there is unquestionably a talent difference, you are delusional. But this might just be the case considering the fact that you think Robert Horry could be a starter on a playoff team.

Robert Horry is the starter on THIS TEAM...he just doesn't start.

You know why Robert Horry didn't start during the Lakers 3 peat? He didn't want to. He doesn't want to start on this team.

But go ahead and under-rate Horry, all you show is your inexperience as a basketball fan...if LA had him last year you guys wouldn't have beaten them because he'd have stuck his foot up Shaq and Kobe's ass for being concerned with other than winning, and he's not a perennial choker like Malone.

[cqsallie]

Just remember, we played the last 10-15 games of the season without Tim Duncan, without Rasho...and still finished with the second best record in the entire NBA, still outscored you guys on the season...still put up the most points scored in an NBA game this season.

And in fact...we still went into Detroit and dropped a 100 points on you guys during your hottest stretch of the season...

Ooohh! I'm thinking, "Amen," or "Love It," or "Wish I'd Said It," or "Dammit, Whott - you absolutely rule! And I mean it!"

[T Park]

keep underrating Robert Horry.

I hope he comes out like 01 like gangbusters and blows away the Pistons with the 3s.


Go ahead and stay at home with him too.


Duncan will eat up "Big Ben".

[leemajors]

Ball Don't Lie, he obviously meant we scored 100 without duncan. that in itself is pretty impressive. we were right in the game till the end without our best player. i think he could have helped us out on the defensive end, don't you?

[whottt]

This is actually the first time I've seen this excuse. Very creative! I guess I never considered the idea that Kobe threw the series. Silly me.

It's called myopia...

.....And we scored 110. I thought our offense was mediocre and your defense was invincible?

Pistons fans must think they have a divine right to the other teams best player being injured...and that it has something to do with the greatness of their team...

[whottt]

Pistons fans...the funniest thing about this argument is that you guys are getting your ass kicked by a Spursfan who picked the Pistons to win this series...Your arguments suck...because you are trying to portray your team as the greatest ever built..it isn't.

The best argument you guys have in your favor is that you are the champs and we haven't proven ...instead you try to argue against cold hard reality...the Spurs are undeniably the more talented and deeper team...and you embarrass yourself by arguing against that point. The Spurs being more talented in no way gurantess victory...

The Suns have the most talent in the entire NBA, just on the basis of their starters...it didn't do them any good...stop being insecure about your team...it's a great ing team...but it's not the most talented team in this series. What it is is the defending champ...and that's the absolute best ing edge to have.

[cqsallie]

It's called myopia...
Myopia being the medical term for short-sigtedness...


Pistons fans must think they have a divine right to the other teams best player being injured...and that it has something to do with the greatness of their team...

What's gonna happen when a very healthy Spurs team takes the floor?

[mavsfan1000]

I really like both teams so it is hard to pick between Detroit and San Antonio. I like Billups and Hamilton on Detroit and Ginobili and Duncan on San Antonio. Whoever wins this series gets my respect. I doubt Terry Porter knows who is going to win so San Antonio is still the favorite.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

It's called myopia...






Pistons fans must think they have a divine right to the other teams best player being injured...and that it has something to do with the greatness of their team...

Dirk Nowitzki anyone? My how soon we forget...

The real gist of my post is above where you said Indy and Miami were not strong defensive teams. PPG, FG% allowed, def rebounding % are all categories that good defensive teams rank highly in, which these two teams did. So I ask you, what else would you use to quantify how good a team is defensively?

Don't good defensive teams rebound well and limit their TOs, which leads to less fast break opportunities?

[mavsfan1000]

Dirk Nowitzki anyone? My how soon we forget...

The real gist of my post is above where you said Indy and Miami were not strong defensive teams. PPG, FG% allowed, def rebounding % are all categories that good defensive teams rank highly in, which these two teams did. So I ask you, what else would you use to quantify how good a team is defensively?

Don't good defensive teams rebound well and limit their TOs, which leads to less fast break opportunities?

I saw some weaknesses in Detroit on transition defense. San Antonio's guards are quicker. Duncan is their man but Detroit has 2 defensive players in the Wallaces. Bruce Bowen will have trouble with Hamilton but it will save Ginobili and Parker's energy on the offensive end not to guard Rip.

[whottt]

Dirk Nowitzki anyone? My how soon we forget...

What's your point?

The real gist of my post is above where you said Indy and Miami were not strong defensive teams. PPG, FG% allowed, def rebounding % are all categories that good defensive teams rank highly in, which these two teams did.

Indy is a good defensive team...but they weren't as good this year as they were last year...note the fact that they won 25 or so fewer games than they did last year..


Miami is not a good defensive team...they are the most effiicient offense in the NBA but Shaq is a defensive liability...why do you think the Heat signed Mourning to close out games?

So I ask you, what else would you use to quantify how good a team is defensively?

The same things you would more or less...

But I don't really see where this argument became an argument about how good of defensive teams the Heat and Pacers are...

I don't think either one of them was a good as Denver...I don't think either one of them are as physical as Seattle was...and I damn sure don't think either one of them deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the Spurs or Pistons based on anything they did this season...

Don't good defensive teams rebound well and limit their TOs, which leads to less fast break opportunities?

That also describes the Dallas Mavericks of the last 3 years...

You tell me if that's all there is to it.

[cqsallie]

And still, it comes down to the fact that the Pistons probably would NOT have beaten Miami if the Heat had been playing with a healthy Wade and O'Neal. As good as the Pistons are defensively, it really came down to the 4th quarter - with Wade being totally ineffective.
Much can be argued about the Eastern Conference Championship - and you can bet your boots that much will be argued about that series. It just didn't sear the victory in anyone's mind as one based on the superior play of the Pistons vis-a-vis the Heat. It's almost an astericks series, with a whole lot of "what ifs."
A totally healthy team playing a totally healthy team is really the test. That's why I'm cautioning Detroit fans against presuming brilliance, when the win came against a foe that was pretty much vanquished before it started.
I'm looking forward to a healthy Pistons team going up against a healthy Spurs team. I think you might be very much surprised...

[Ball Don't Lie]

You are only one of the 2 detroit pistons so far that hasn't gone balls to the walls saying

" THE DETROIT PISTONS ARE GONNA BEAT THE SPURS AND WE WILL REPEAT"...


This forum has always predicted series... I really don't know what you expect the spurs fans to say about the pistons... most of us do think they are the toughest team in the NBA, but tell your "detroit pistons fans" that trolling won't help.

Obviously when you come to this forum most of us expect to talk solely about the Spurs, because we are spurs fans..but to think that most of you guys think you are gonna sweep is completely insane.. I know, It's what we think, but you do know why... The Spurs were favorites last year, and they were this year too.. for a reason.

The Spurs have been one of the most dangerous teams in the NBA since Tim Duncan was drafted, for you to think that the Pistons are gonna win easily with Tim in there, and in the finals is just not right. Last year, perhaps you might say that the Lakers were the better team when they beat the Spurs...but do you really think so?

I really doubt it, I'm sure all of you thought the series was over when we were up 2-0...so yeah, I'll go on and say they choked, too bad.

I just want to point out that I think that you didn't face the best team, then again they beat us...so it's time to show it this time..

I just can't wait for the series to start and you shouldn't either.. but you should remember we have the right to underestimate other teams when we've beaten them before...most people see it as a rivalry, personally I don't.


I couldn't Imagine a better team to play in the finals..and I wanted that last year aswell.

Why don't we just keep the " OMG WE ARE GONNA BEAT YOUR TEAM" comments to a minimum... while the series are in play.

I don't know what board you are talking about, but most of the Pistons fans (including myself) are just looking for your fans to admit that the Pistons are a worthy foe and will present a challenge to the almighty Spurs. If you go over to the Detroit board you see very few posts about how the Spurs don't deserve to be here, their championship is a fluke, this finals berth is a fluke, etc. Posts saying these things about Detroit are very common here. The last two teams SA beat in the playoffs were hurt very badly by injuries, but not once have I seen a post by a Detroit fan saying that SA's Finals berth is a fluke. And I think Detroit fans have a much more valid argument then you guys do in that department because of the fact that the Spurs choked in the second round last year when challenged by a strong, healthy team.

Anyway, I checked out this board to see what you guys had to say about our team. To tell you the truth, I have NEVER made an account on an opponent's message board. I usually just lurk a bit and read the comments. But you guys were showing us so little respect that I felt the need to sign up for this board. In all honesty, the fans on this board are the biggest bunch of arrogant pricks I have seen - which is amazing considering that SA has spent the better part of the last 5 years being LA's , and we wiped the floor with the Lakers.

Personally, I think the Pistons will win in 6. But I can see if you think otherwise - most people do. I just wish that your fans could be classy enough to admit that their opponent is indeed a worthy one. I, and most Piston fans, are very willing to admit that SA is a worthy challenger to our crown. I think it will be a great series, and I wish you guys luck. But I can honestly say that from this point on I will always root against San Antonio - and we haven't played Game 1 yet.

[Sense]

I don't know what board you are talking about, but most of the Pistons fans (including myself) are just looking for your fans to admit that the Pistons are a worthy foe and will present a challenge to the almighty Spurs. If you go over to the Detroit board you see very few posts about how the Spurs don't deserve to be here, their championship is a fluke, this finals berth is a fluke, etc. The last two teams you beat in the playoffs were hurt very badly by injuries, but not once have I seen a post by a Detroit fan saying that SA's Finals berth is a fluke. And I think Detroit fans have a much more valid argument then you guys do in that department because of the fact that the Spurs choked in the second round last year when challenged by a strong, healthy team.

Anyway, I checked out this board to see what you guys had to say about our team. To tell you the truth, I have NEVER made an account on an opponent's message board. I usually just lurk a bit and read the comments. But you guys were showing us so little respect that I felt the need to sign up for this board. If that makes me a troll, then I guess I'm a troll.

Personally, I think the Pistons will win in 6. But I can see if you think otherwise - most people do. I just wish that your fans could be classy enough to admit that their opponent is indeed a worthy one. I, and most Piston fans, are very willing to admit that SA is a worthy challenger to our crown.

You know you are gonna find bandwagon fans in here...those people think the Pistons don't deserve to be in the finals... as for me? Well I predicted the Pistons being there...most of the Spurs fans predicted the same last year.

I don't doubt I will hear anyone in the detroit forums saying the Spurs don't deserve to be there...the only reason it's posted in here, is because you guys came here trying to say that we were gonna lose..plain and simple, normally when we don't have trolls, we just make smart predicaments about the other teams.. now since you guys are talking about the .4 shot, and the dirk injury n ...that's when people get pissed about it and decide to go for a shot at you.

I also doubt that many people think the Spurs finals berth is a fluke, because the spurs have always deserved to be there, since duncan came in the league..they have always been a championship contender... there have just been some problems that I just don't want to discuss.

When you come to another teams forum, EXPECT THE WORST REMARKS FROM UR TEAM... someone should get that stuck in their head. Don't expect all the Spurs fans to think the pistons are gonna beat the Spurs.. because I surely don't believe this.

Mostly because of the Spurs big man, the homecourt advantage (which btw we have been very good with), and the fans.


Saying more predictions at this point will get more people onto you, and that's what got the pistons fans mad, so they decided to troll..

Ignore predictions, remember that these are opinions..and mostly these opinions are wished to come true.

Don't get offended by predictions and your team will get more respect... they have just not when you are here.

[Ball Don't Lie]

You know you are gonna find bandwagon fans in here...those people think the Pistons don't deserve to be in the finals... as for me? Well I predicted the Pistons being there...most of the Spurs fans predicted the same last year.

I don't doubt I will hear anyone in the detroit forums saying the Spurs don't deserve to be there...the only reason it's posted in here, is because you guys came here trying to say that we were gonna lose..plain and simple, normally when we don't have trolls, we just make smart predicaments about the other teams.. now since you guys are talking about the .4 shot, and the dirk injury n ...that's when people get pissed about it and decide to go for a shot at you.

I also doubt that many people think the Spurs finals berth is a fluke, because the spurs have always deserved to be there, since duncan came in the league..they have always been a championship contender... there have just been some problems that I just don't want to discuss.

When you come to another teams forum, EXPECT THE WORST REMARKS FROM UR TEAM... someone should get that stuck in their head. Don't expect all the Spurs fans to think the pistons are gonna beat the Spurs.. because I surely don't believe this.

Mostly because of the Spurs big man, the homecourt advantage (which btw we have been very good with), and the fans.


Saying more predictions at this point will get more people onto you, and that's what got the pistons fans mad, so they decided to troll..

Ignore predictions, remember that these are opinions..and mostly these opinions are wished to come true.

Don't get offended by predictions and your team will get more respect... they have just not when you are here.

I'm not re ed. I know that when I come on a Spurs board I will see a bunch of pro-spurs opinions. That's why I check out these boards. But instead of "Its going to be a great series, I think the Spurs will win in 6, and here's why..." this board has FAR more comments running with the idea that the Spurs are OBVIOUSLY the better team and can only possibly lose if the team plane crashes and they have to suit up the waterboy and 4 random fans. It's obnoxious and way off the mark. I would bet any amount of money that this series will go 6 games, as would any somewhat intelligent fan. For all the action on this board, it is amazing how many completely moronic people root for your team.

As a Pistons fan, I just wonder how many "more talented" teams we have to beat before people realize their analysis is way off?