Five RJ's trade ideas

[20beastie45]

Mixed feelings about this 1

[20beastie45]

What do you think about this?

[mountainballer]

4) RJ to nets for Outlaw ($28M/ 4 years) and Petro ($6.8M/2 years).
Outlaw has a less worst contract than RJ so Spurs had also to take Petro.

like some other poster I as well like this scenario and I think the Nets might in fact be a realistic trade partner. maybe some other packages are worth a thought either. I try to add some points.
first off, the Nets priority will be to dump salary to get more cap space. different to 2010 they now do have a star player in Williams, who will help to attract premium FA, but they are likely no longer able to offer max money (whatever number this will finally be). so Dice will need to be a part of one scenario.
another important point for the Nets will be their rebounding. Lopez needs a rebounder playing alongside him to compensate for his sub par production. they might try to bring back Chris Humphries, but this would cost them cap space again. Blair might be highly intriguing for them, he can rebound AND he is cheap.
so what about RJ+Dice for Outlaw+Petro+Farmar?
(I just focus on RJ getting traded at any costs). Nets gain some more cap space. (+2.5 million?)

the other trade:
RC+Blair for Outlaw+James
(Nets lose some cap space, but get a cost saving replacement for Humphries in Blair. Spurs get back a young player in James. Nets might trow in their #35 pick)

[PDXSpursFan]

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4) RJ to nets for Outlaw ($28M/ 4 years) and Petro ($6.8M/2 years).
Outlaw has a less worst contract than RJ so Spurs had also to take Petro.
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Only realistic trade because both players (RJ and Outlaw) suck. But RJ was a good player on NJ before so their front office may like this trade. Having said that I'm not sure that this is a good trade for the Spurs. I don't see Outlaw being any better than RJ on Spurs uniform.

[hater]

any trade that accomplishes RJ leaving SA is a good trade.

[hater]

Here's my trade:

RJ and Bonner for Antoine Jamison

we have our ppls in Cleveland. DO IT!!!

[hater]

^ Hollingers analysis of my trade:
Spurs: improve projected wins by 1
Cleveland: You have not affected the winning percentage with this trade

[hater]

a small adjustment to my trade and it's probably the best trade in NBA history:
Blair, Bonner, Jefferson + Dyess for Jamison + Varejao

"the brazilian twin towers"

Parker
Manu
Jamison
Varejao
Splitter

Hill
Neal
Anderson
Duncan
Bouroussis
De Colo
Quinn/Novak

[SpurOutofTownFan]

People who are calling RJ names are mistaken and wrong.

First please stop insulting Spurs players - it doesn't make any sense and it's not right

Second, RJ clearly didn't work with the Spurs but that doesn't mean he can't be a great player somewhere else - I'm sure other teams are waiting for the Spurs to sweeten the deal thinking the guy is worthless and they would be ready to jump all over the trade. Reason is I think RJ still has it but not within the Spurs' system.

The Spurs thought he was going to contribute the way he can by being a "slasher" and prolific scorer and being able with his frame to be a force on D but it just didn't work. RJ used to be the primary scorer on all the teams he played with and the style he was used to was totally different. With the Spurs, even Hill had more plays called for him than for RJ and RJ was at best a 4th scoring opportunity behind the big 3.

I would tell you right now some teams are salivating at the prospect of having him for cheap, and I don't mean what they would have to pay in salary but what they would have to give up in order to get him from the Spurs.

I might be totally wrong with the assessment RJ can be a great player somewhere else but I believe I could be right.

[JR3]

any trade that accomplishes RJ leaving SA is a good trade.

I agree. I'm not even okay with RJ coming off the bench. I'd rather have a less talented player with balls.

[JR3]

People who are calling RJ names are mistaken and wrong.

First please stop insulting Spurs players - it doesn't make any sense and it's not right

Second, RJ clearly didn't work with the Spurs but that doesn't mean he can't be a great player somewhere else - I'm sure other teams are waiting for the Spurs to sweeten the deal thinking the guy is worthless and they would be ready to jump all over the trade. Reason is I think RJ still has it but not within the Spurs' system.

The Spurs thought he was going to contribute the way he can by being a "slasher" and prolific scorer and being able with his frame to be a force on D but it just didn't work. RJ used to be the primary scorer on all the teams he played with and the style he was used to was totally different. With the Spurs, even Hill had more plays called for him than for RJ and RJ was at best a 4th scoring opportunity behind the big 3.

I would tell you right now some teams are salivating at the prospect of having him for cheap, and I don't mean what they would have to pay in salary but what they would have to give up in order to get him from the Spurs.

I might be totally wrong with the assessment RJ can be a great player somewhere else but I believe I could be right.

RJ can be a good player with another team. I agree not many plays were called for RJ but when they were, he played scared and was not agressive. I bet another team would love to have him and if they get him, they will get 15 -(stretchin it) 20 points a night during the regular season. IF the team makes the playoffs , RJ will leave em hanging. Spurs need players that are playoff compe ors. RJ just isn't that. He is not in new jersey anymore. I think he lead the spurs in missed dunks this season. That was what he was supposed to be good at. Some may not like what I'm about to say but i think Bogans might have been more productive this season than RJ.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

RJ can be a good player with another team. I agree not many plays were called for RJ but when they were, he played scared and was not agressive. I bet another team would love to have him and if they get him, they will get 15 -(stretchin it) 20 points a night during the regular season. IF the team makes the playoffs , RJ will leave em hanging. Spurs need players that are playoff compe ors. RJ just isn't that. He is not in new jersey anymore. I think he lead the spurs in missed dunks this season. That was what he was supposed to be good at. Some may not like what I'm about to say but i think Bogans might have been more productive this season than RJ.

This is good. Also you aren't insulting him.

[cheney212]

just get him out of here he didnt do during the memphis series and i hate seeing bonner play unless hes shooting well which is only the regular season so they both have had enough time to prove they suck...

[Master splitter]

Lol RJ for Allen iverson

[outmap]

People who are calling RJ names are mistaken and wrong.

First please stop insulting Spurs players - it doesn't make any sense and it's not right

Second, RJ clearly didn't work with the Spurs but that doesn't mean he can't be a great player somewhere else - I'm sure other teams are waiting for the Spurs to sweeten the deal thinking the guy is worthless and they would be ready to jump all over the trade. Reason is I think RJ still has it but not within the Spurs' system.

The Spurs thought he was going to contribute the way he can by being a "slasher" and prolific scorer and being able with his frame to be a force on D but it just didn't work. RJ used to be the primary scorer on all the teams he played with and the style he was used to was totally different. With the Spurs, even Hill had more plays called for him than for RJ and RJ was at best a 4th scoring opportunity behind the big 3.

I would tell you right now some teams are salivating at the prospect of having him for cheap, and I don't mean what they would have to pay in salary but what they would have to give up in order to get him from the Spurs.

I might be totally wrong with the assessment RJ can be a great player somewhere else but I believe I could be right.

I agree.
RJ is no. 1 in 3 point field goals and 6th in FG% among small forwards and he was averaging 11 a game in the regular season as the fourth/fifth option.
Stat wise, he's top 10-15 player among small forwards. RJ's just a bad mix in the Spurs system.

[Doctor J]

Whether Dice is retiring or not...

He clearly said that he wouldn't play for another team.

[pancakechef]

Well lets hope he retires then cause he sucks. You people on here have ZERO basketball sense.

McDyess cant defend a jumper, and isnt very effective in the post. SEE RANDOLPH ABUSING HIM EVERY GAME LAST SERIES. He cant close out, and has limited instincts on defense.

He does body up nice, but hes too slow so It really doesnt matter. Any legit Big can create space between Antonio every time.

NEXT: HE IS A LIABILITY ON OFFENSE. HE IS A BIG WITH NO HANDS OR POST MOVES WTF? He shoots an elbow j at 40% and 6ppg. WOW. We really need him for 20 minutes a game.

He is the inverse of Bonner. Two players WE DONT NEED

[Spurtacus]

I'd trade RJ just to move up 10 spots in the draft. Easier said then done.

[Man In Black]

I agree.
RJ is no. 1 in 3 point field goals and 6th in FG% among small forwards and he was averaging 11 a game in the regular season as the fourth/fifth option.
Stat wise, he's top 10-15 player among small forwards. RJ's just a bad mix in the Spurs system.

Technically, there was a time where he displayed the skills needed to fit into the Spurs system, conversely, RJ lacks the balls to play that way. Both him and Bonner, and to a lesser extent, George Hill, are flaccid, shrinking penises.

Hill is young enough to learn from the experience, but RJ and Matt...not so sure. They've had ample time to show results, but the objectives have not been met.

[kaji157]

Technically, there was a time where he displayed the skills needed to fit into the Spurs system, conversely, RJ lacks the balls to play that way. Both him and Bonner, and to a lesser extent, George Hill, are flaccid, shrinking penises.

Hill is young enough to learn from the experience, but RJ and Matt...not so sure. They've had ample time to show results, but the objectives have not been met.

I agree, i think we need proven PO players.

If we can get Tyshaun Prince i would be fine if we can get a backup C and a Backup PPG for Jefferson.

And i don't even care if he gets back to his level, if he does, good for him, enough tryouts here. Would love to send Bonner with him, but Pop won't allow it.

[jjktkk]

I've always thought Pietrus was better than Rj

A better defender. I wouldn't mind at all for that swap.

[spurspokesman]

I like all those options

RJ needs to GTFO

This

[spurspokesman]

A better defender. I wouldn't mind at all for that swap.

I have always respected pietrus and thought he defended lebron well the year orl took out cleveland.

[spurspokesman]

Well lets hope he retires then cause he sucks. You people on here have ZERO basketball sense.

McDyess cant defend a jumper, and isnt very effective in the post. SEE RANDOLPH ABUSING HIM EVERY GAME LAST SERIES. He cant close out, and has limited instincts on defense.

He does body up nice, but hes too slow so It really doesnt matter. Any legit Big can create space between Antonio every time.

NEXT: HE IS A LIABILITY ON OFFENSE. HE IS A BIG WITH NO HANDS OR POST MOVES WTF? He shoots an elbow j at 40% and 6ppg. WOW. We really need him for 20 minutes a game.

He is the inverse of Bonner. Two players WE DONT NEED

He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn against memphis.

[spurspokesman]

Only realistic trade because both players (RJ and Outlaw) suck. But RJ was a good player on NJ before so their front office may like this trade. Having said that I'm not sure that this is a good trade for the Spurs. I don't see Outlaw being any better than RJ on Spurs uniform.

He has more heart and can defend a lick. Oh he rebounds also