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  1. #76
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    well everyone in the league gets skunked....and 29 other teams dont win a championship in a given year. To be great, you have to have longevity so you can get those les. If you fail, you fail...but if you achieve, thats saying alot.

    ie, Duncan cant go down just cuz he didnt win the past 4 years, he already did his part when he got his rings. You're right, maybe if your in a stacked team you wont get much credit, but it sure wont make you go down.
    I agree, I just don't think you move after a certain point unless you are continually in the top 10 in the league in those twilight years. He won't be and is already starting to slip.

    I agree the skunker doesn't move him down, that was my point. I just don't think you can move up after a certain point. He's def not moving down unless Lebron forces his way in an bumps him.

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    Robert Horry mode ohmwrecker's Avatar
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    Watch out, Jam. When Chico fails in an argument he apparently adds your name to his sig.

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    Watch out, Jam. When Chico fails in an argument he apparently adds your name to his sig.
    So it's kinda like an honor, like a SpursTalk medal?

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    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    So it's kinda like an honor, like a SpursTalk medal?

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    Robert Horry mode ohmwrecker's Avatar
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    So it's kinda like an honor, like a SpursTalk medal?
    It's more like when your cat leaves a dead bird carcass on the porch. You are kind of disgusted, but you accept that is just the cat's way of saying he loves you.

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    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    It's more like when your cat leaves a dead bird carcass on the porch. You are kind of disgusted, but you accept that is just the cat's way of saying he loves you.
    I do accept that, then I silently hunt down and kill the cat, and I hang it's corpse for the other cats to see, and they see it and they do not bring dead birds to my door.

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    I agree, I just don't think you move after a certain point unless you are continually in the top 10 in the league in those twilight years. He won't be and is already starting to slip.

    I agree the skunker doesn't move him down, that was my point. I just don't think you can move up after a certain point. He's def not moving down unless Lebron forces his way in an bumps him.
    Yah maybe a certain point if its obvious you are chasing..ie. Shaq in Boston and Cleveland...not so much in Pheonix.

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    Of course he is

    If there is an all time starting 5 he is at the PF..

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    Scottie Pippen has no business being anywhere near a top 10 players of all-time..he was clearly inferior to Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley, Malone and Ewing, in his own era..winning rings as a sidekick, as great as he was, doesn't elevate him ahead of those players..

    I agree with DOK about Bird..his peak matches up with almost anybody..looking back at it now, a lot of people look at him and can't picture his dominance, but his accolades and clutch play speak for themselves IMO..

    Wilt and Russell are obviously difficult to judge..Wilt has to be on every list, just for his sheer dominance, but Russell would strictly make a list for his hardware, since his stats and overall talent seem to be underwhelming..

    Kareem is the most underrated of the consensus all-timers IMO..

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    My personal list:

    1. Jordan
    2. Magic
    3. Kareem
    4-10 (in no order):
    Wilt Chamberlain
    Hakeem Olajuwon
    Shaquille O'Neal
    Tim Duncan
    Larry Bird
    Oscar Robertson (can't ignore Big O)
    Bill Russel (only up here because he has 11 rings)

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    Scottie Pippen has no business being anywhere near a top 10 players of all-time..he was clearly inferior to Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley, Malone and Ewing, in his own era..winning rings as a sidekick, as great as he was, doesn't elevate him ahead of those players..

    I agree with DOK about Bird..his peak matches up with almost anybody..looking back at it now, a lot of people look at him and can't picture his dominance, but his accolades and clutch play speak for themselves IMO..

    Wilt and Russell are obviously difficult to judge..Wilt has to be on every list, just for his sheer dominance, but Russell would strictly make a list for his hardware, since his stats and overall talent seem to be underwhelming..

    Kareem is the most underrated of the consensus all-timers IMO..
    It's funny because IMO Kareem is the only player besides MJ that can make the argument for GOAT.

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    Agreed, IMO, MJ is on his own level as GOAT, and Kareem is on his own level as 2nd best of all time. I think if Magic Johnson's career wasn't cut short he woulda been #2 all time, potentially GOAT.

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    Instead he decided to have sex with men.

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    Abe Lincoln, NlGGA Kyle Orton's Avatar
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    Goes great with the new avatar tbh

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    As for my list...

    1. MJ
    2. Kareem
    3. Magic
    4. Bird
    5. Shaq
    6. Duncan
    7. Dream
    8. Wilt
    9. Big O
    10. Moses Malone
    Lol moses Malone
    Lol big o
    Lol Duncan

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    Instead he decided to have sex with men.
    Hey-O!

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    I don't know if Moses Malone is a top-10 player but he's probably the most underrated great player of all time. He was absolutely dominant in his prime and whipped Kareem on more than one occasion in the postseason. Yet for some reason he isn't all that remembered.

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    last player to win MVP on a sub-50 win team tbh....for some reason I'm impressed by little like that

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    I don't know if Moses Malone is a top-10 player but he's probably the most underrated great player of all time. He was absolutely dominant in his prime and whipped Kareem on more than one occasion in the postseason. Yet for some reason he isn't all that remembered.
    Probably because he makes Tim Duncan look like Barkley in the charisma department.

  21. #96
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    I don't know if Moses Malone is a top-10 player but he's probably the most underrated great player of all time. He was absolutely dominant in his prime and whipped Kareem on more than one occasion in the postseason. Yet for some reason he isn't all that remembered.
    Only won 1 le. He's a 3-time MVP though so it's kind of strange you don't hear more about him.

  22. #97
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    Easy top ten:
    1. Kobe
    2. MJ
    3.Shaq
    4.Kareem
    5.Wilt
    6.Bird
    7.Aids
    8.Hakeem
    9.Bill Russell
    10. Shawn Kemp

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    ^

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    #41's schtick doesn't have an ounce of funny in it. It's pretty sad that his best schtick so far was when he followed everyone around catching in his mouth.

  25. #100
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    scoffing anyone else's list when you have Shawn in Kemp in your top 10.

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