These kids held back by bad teachers and unions?

[ElNono]

Racial prejudice makes you stupider, new research finds / Encounters with another race made whites perform worse on cognitive test

November 17, 2003|By Gareth Cook, Boston Globe

To the litany of arguments against prejudice, scientists are now adding a new one: Racism can make you stupid.

That is the message of an unusual and striking new series of experiments conducted at Dartmouth College, with the help of brain-imaging equipment and a crew of undergraduate volunteers.

According to the findings, the more biased people are, the more their brain power is taxed by contact with someone of another race, as they struggle not to say or do anything offensive. The effect is so strong, the team found, that even a five-minute conversation with a black person left some of the white subjects unable to perform well on a test of cognitive ability.

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[ElNono]

That explains it, imo...

[LnGrrrR]

Even with Pell grants?

Huh? Obviously when you look at it on an "individual" basis, it's unfair. It's only "fair" when extrapolated outwards to groups of people as a whole.

[LnGrrrR]

Statistically, blacks are disadvantaged. Maybe if they would stop blaming "the man" they could do some self reflection, and improve their communities rom within.

Maybe not every poor black person blames "the man".

[Wild Cobra]

Could you prove that statement?



Really? You don't think that WHERE a black person lives might not be due to wealth? Chris Rock has a great skit that you should listen to regarding where black people live:





You missed my point entirely. Whites with wealth have, in many cases, already been spotted the 50 yards. Overall, whites have a disporportionate amount of wealth related to overall popuation. Of course if you compare individual runners, then you can have similar situations.



I don't necessarily "want" to spot someone, I just recognize the validity of it.

Would you agree or disagree that wealth can be an important factor in "getting ahead"?

Would you agree or disagree that wealth is disproportionately found in the majority (white) as opposed to minorities?

Would you agree or disagree that wealth possessed by the majority may have been collected through unfair practices against minorities?

Yes, wealth is a factor. Are you purposely ignoring my statements? I am not attempting to cover all possibilities. Quota systems are simply wrong. They improperly prejudice against others to put less qualified in their place.

Life is hard. It's not the responsibility of us all to step aside for the less advantages just to be PC.

[Wild Cobra]

So, everybody that lives in such communities blame "the man"... and kids born in such communities are obviously guilty of being born there.

Only statistically.

Also, if you agree that statistically black are disadvantaged, then you agree that the non-blacks have an inherent advantage.

Yes.

[Wild Cobra]

Maybe not every poor black person blames "the man".

True, and if they are in a bad school system, it's still hard for them to compete. That doesn't make it right to put them ahead of others more qualified though, which a quota system does.

[ElNono]

lol admitting that the minorities are at a disadvantage but that providing equal opportunity is racist...
lol reverse racism...
lol step aside...

[ElNono]

Only statistically.

They're statistically guilty of being born on certain communities?

Yes.

So, if it's not the capability of the individual that's the problem, it seems only logical to provide equal opportunity regardless of the color of the skin...

[LnGrrrR]

Yes, wealth is a factor. Are you purposely ignoring my statements? I am not attempting to cover all possibilities. Quota systems are simply wrong. They improperly prejudice against others to put less qualified in their place.

Yes, in a vacuum, they are wrong. However, isn't it just as wrong to enslave a group of people for hundreds of years, ac ulate wealth unfairly, and then try to wash your hands of any burdens a few generations later?

Neither answer is "correct".

Life is hard. It's not the responsibility of us all to step aside for the less advantages just to be PC.

It's not about being PC at all. And how come you didn't answer my questions? Tsk tsk.

I don't think it's fair to complain about me ignoring your statements when you willfully don't even answer agree or disagree to rather plain questions.

[LnGrrrR]

So, if it's not the capability of the individual that's the problem, it seems only logical to provide equal opportunity regardless of the color of the skin...

Which brings up an interesting question:

WC, would you be against an affirmative action-type of system that was based off wealth/poverty levels rather than race?

What about if said wealth-based quota system hypothetically produced the same levels of racial diversity that a race-based quota system would?

[ElNono]

would you be against an affirmative action-type of system that was based off wealth/poverty levels rather than race?

Class warfare!!!!!! Why can't we just go back to 1826 when everything was peachy?

[MannyIsGod]

lol admitting that the minorities are at a disadvantage but that providing equal opportunity is racist...
lol reverse racism...
lol step aside...