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    Well if it wasn't the mancrush that made him give the ginger 20 a game, what was it?

    I kind of thought the mancrush angle at least gave him a modi of respect, as opposed to your alternative (which I'm not ruling out, mind you)... that he's just plain dumb as a brick.
    Perhaps Pop has lost a step mentally, but I don't think guys who are as dumb as a brick win 4 NBA championships in 8 years.

    The Spurs model was considerably more uptempo last year - esp when Blair was in the game. It had to be since he didn't have his typical defensive players. So, they lived and died by the 3 pt line and led the league in attempts. Bonner was part of that as he for much of the early and mid season was shooting well. Now, I agree w/ you in that he's a one trick pony - no defense, low post offense or rebounding. But, he does have a place on the team. And if that's what gets you to the dance, then you stay with it.

    Pop realized early on that the only way the team had a chance to go deep in the playoffs was to shoot well from 3. So, he put his 3 pt shooters in positions to make shots. They didn't and the team lost. Gamble, yes. Was it their only hope, esp. w/ Manu injured, yes. It didn't work but it doesn't mean Pop is stupid.
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    Perhaps Pop has lost a step mentally, but I don't think guys who are as dumb as a brick win 4 NBA championships in 8 years.
    The last was in 2007 though. Times change. Those 4 championships are ancient history.

    4 years is plenty of time for someone to get the early stages of dementia or some other related issue. In just 4 years the great tim duncan has gone from being the best player in the world to where he's at now. A lot changes in 4 years.

    Maybe Pop's mind is ed from sipping wine non stop for 100 years. So maybe he wasn't dumb as a brick when winning those 4 championships. Just maybe he's dumb as a brick now though. His brain cells are dieing with every sip he takes

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    Perhaps - but the Spurs had the best record in the West THIS year.

    It wasn't Pops fault that his best player got hurt the last game of the season (some say he shouldn't have been in the game - I say if you're playing for the best record in the NBA, you play your best players but that's another thread entirely).

    It also wasn't Pops fault that Bonner and RJ both disappeared after having career bests in 3 pt % earlier in the year. You can't coach guys making 3 pters in the game. They either make or miss them and the 3 pt shots got them to where they were.

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    kaman=incredible mo williams={fart noises}

    spurs trading for incredible fart noises?

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    Perhaps - but the Spurs had the best record in the West THIS year.

    It wasn't Pops fault that his best player got hurt the last game of the season (some say he shouldn't have been in the game - I say if you're playing for the best record in the NBA, you play your best players but that's another thread entirely).

    It also wasn't Pops fault that Bonner and RJ both disappeared after having career bests in 3 pt % earlier in the year. You can't coach guys making 3 pters in the game. They either make or miss them and the 3 pt shots got them to where they were.
    So was Pop playing for the best record the game before the last one?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310412013

    Chris Quinn, Steve Novak, Danny Green, & James Anderson a combined 87 minutes... wtf?

    What was that all about?

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    NTY, I will pass on this awful trade. If we trade Tony it better be for a young big man, not and old injured big man, and someone else's table scraps of a PG. As far as keep the "Big 3" together, what the for? Parker is 29, can't play a lick of D, and has a streaky jump shot at best. He does his real damage in the paint, and he is undersized. More often than not it doesn't work in the playoffs. Usually playoff teams have size to shut him down so he is rendered useless. God knows he is a mediocre passer. Why not trade him while he has value? The Spurs have done a good job of getting younger and more athletic. Getting rid of Parker for more youth is a only a step in the right direction. He made it clear he is not interested in being in San Antonio.

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    trade his ass to NJ for deron williams

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    I agree. Parker is a score-first point guard who can't shoot. He's 29 and has a lot of miles, so the amount of paint points he'll be able to get will decrease over the next few years as his wheels slow down. We know he's already lost at least a half step.

    And judging from his performance against Memphis last year, maybe a full step.

    I say trade him now while he has value. Granted, we don't have George Hill to step in now, but then again, did we really think George was going to be our starting PG for the next few years? George was a nice player, but he wasn't a PG.

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    Pop would have Mo in the doghouse half way through the pre-season! And Kaman is fragile and slow. No thanks.

    Now, DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, Al Aminu (and filler) and you've got a deal!

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    I agree. Parker is a score-first point guard who can't shoot. He's 29 and has a lot of miles, so the amount of paint points he'll be able to get will decrease over the next few years as his wheels slow down. We know he's already lost at least a half step.

    And judging from his performance against Memphis last year, maybe a full step.

    I say trade him now while he has value. Granted, we don't have George Hill to step in now, but then again, did we really think George was going to be our starting PG for the next few years? George was a nice player, but he wasn't a PG.
    Agree.

    I've mentioned this several times before - PGs are a dime a dozen. Just about all of the Spurs good guards (point and shooting) were LATE 1st round draft picks. The same things we're saying about Cory Joseph now (too immature/raw to back up TP, not strong enough, might not have been the starting PG for his college team next year, blah blah blah) are some of the same things we said about TP when he was drafted.

    Trading TP is no big deal actually. Another good PG (maybe even one who's just as capable offensively but plays better D and can hit the 3) will be along shortly...

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