Truth be told, more than one self-proclaimed conservative poster here has advocated RG's point. I wouldn't use that to color the entire conservative spectrum though.Seriously, RG. You are going to offer up, as proof, Google hits?
You are ascerting that conservatives take the position that welfare should be abolished and picked up by private charities. I think you used the qualifier "alot". Of course, you have done nothing to quantify what "alot" means, and it therefore sits as an open qualifier. It's up to you to actually apply some critical thought to an otherwise, untenable position.
lol @ ing. I'm pointing them out. Don't be so defensive.
I agree. That's why I don't let boutons color the entire progressive spectrum.
The number of hits as an absolute means jack . Again with the strawman.Seriously, RG. You are going to offer up, as proof, Google hits?
The fact that I got quite a few directly applicable quotes from the first few pages though, does imply that if I sifted through the large number of hits with any larger chunk of time, I could probably fill this thread with such quotes.
n'est-ce pas?
Fancy clothes, fancy car fancy house. People who make a lot also spend a lot. Poor rich folks.
You most certainly could. It would mean, of course, jack .
I agree. I would add access to education and baseline healthcare to the basic needs. You want them to eventually be productive members of society.
Right. I'm sure it buys a lot more than those making 60K after taxes...
Directly applicable to what?
That's the kicker.
How many would I have to post before it becomes apparent to anybody who is being fair that it is a commonly held belief?
100?
1,000?
10,000?
100,000?
What level of proof would you require to prove it is a commonly held belief?
(edit) with the implication that the government should simply stop doing any social safety net programs at all.
I think this is a much more mainstream sentiment than Tenysha does.
Anyhoo, gotta get going.
Let me get this straight. Earlier you said that google hits, as an absolute, mean jack . Yet here you are, asking, how many hits would equate to an, um, absolute.
I don't think it's a matter of volume. I think you're going about this the wrong way. Finding quotes from a few conservative icon figures (Reagan and the like) will probably give you an easier time making the point you're trying to make.
(I have no idea if any of those figures are on the record on that)
@ RG. I must be misunderstanding you. , I hope so.
Dammit EN!
I'm Teysha. Tenysha is my poodle.
How many people would I have to quote from before it becomes "common"?
It was a bit rhetorical. argh.. really have to get going.
That's a good question. That you don't have an answer is telling.
5,998 posts to go
TB, you do this all the time because you so adamantly refer to yourself as conservative but the fact of the matter is you're not a conservative at all in the way that word is used today. I understand your frustration with having that word pulled from you but the fact of the matter is that YOU are not the run of the mill conservative today and the run of the mill conservative isn't very conservative at all.
Sad to watch someone fall into the Alan Grayson rabbit hole.
Not familiar with Alan Grayson's rabbit hole, tbh.
Having grownup in poverty is probably why I find it hard to understand why many think you have to make big bucks to be happy or to raise a family. Also why I'm so frugal, a cheap ass some may say. I want my kids to be happy with their lives and it isn't all about the money. Yes, I want them to have the things they want but I also don't want them to concentrate on the material things in life. While we may have been poor in my early days..we were happy.
Shrillness and bloviation. You can take Darrin's word for it, he's an expert.
Nothing wrong with being frugal. I'm quite a cheap ass myself. I agree that you don't have to have a lot of material possessions to be happy. We live in a consumer culture that makes you feel somehow inferior if you don't own the latest Apple gizmo. My family was quite poor when I was young, but my mom worked hard enough to get us a slightly better life in SA. Moving to the west side of SA in the late 70's was a step up for us. It's good to teach your kids that material things aren't what matters. It's equally important to teach them to work hard and try their best at school, sports, work, etc.
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