The waitress "black code" rant

[Wild Cobra]

They must not be waiting many tables. The estimates of 16 people per hour and average tabs of $15 to $20 per person are pretty conservative. You can do that at any Red Lobster, Olive Garden, or Salt Grass. That $27K may also be what they declare, which can be much different from what they make. I can tell you if it's cash, it isn't declared.

I regularly go places like Red Lobster, Olive Garden, The Outback, etc. Sure, these people make good money when it's busy, but it's not busy all day. Especially in this economy. I'll agree they probably make $40+/hr when it's busy, but that's only a few hours a day.

[CubanSucks]

mother er. I don't get on for 9 hours and there's a racial thread that's too long to jump in on?

could I please get a recap? Preferably DoK, BSM, or 4>0rings

[Wild Cobra]

mother er. I don't get on for 9 hours and there's a racial thread that's too long to jump in on?

could I please get a recap? Preferably DoK, BSM, or 4>0rings

Prejudice waitress doesn't keep black family's water glass filled.

News at 11.

[Dex]

mother er. I don't get on for 9 hours and there's a racial thread that's too long to jump in on?

could I please get a recap? Preferably DoK, BSM, or 4>0rings

It's gone from an argument that black people are cheap....to an argument that 15% is too low.....to an argument that Persians are cheap....to an argument that waiters are over/underpaid.

[BRHornet45]

sons this is what I hate about my black side and I get stereotyped because of it and well unfortunately .... rightfully so. I saw it for myself when I was in college working as a waiter that when black people walk into the restaurant they demand the ing moon, then walk out leaving next to nothing (if anything) for a tip.

sons I have been preaching against this type of for years now. I have been called a traitor, a uncle Tom, you name it... but that has not stopped me from speaking truth! you want equal rights you black people!? well guess what you have long had them in this country and if anything you have "special rights" and if you had enough sense to poke piss out of a boot then you should realize that by now! stop ing and moaning and take some responsibility for your own actions! start tipping at least 15% and stop acting like the world owes you something because they don't!

[CubanSucks]

if I had a nickel for every time a black person in the service industry was rude to me I'd probably have around a couple bucks

[Wild Cobra]

sons this is what I hate about my black side and I get stereotyped because of it and well unfortunately .... rightfully so. I saw it for myself when I was in college working as a waiter that when black people walk into the restaurant they demand the ing moon, then walk out leaving next to nothing (if anything) for a tip.

sons I have been preaching against this type of for years now. I have been called a traitor, a uncle Tom, you name it... but that has not stopped me from speaking truth! you want equal rights you black people!? well guess what you have long had them in this country and if anything you have "special rights" and if you had enough sense to poke piss out of a boot then you should realize that by now! stop ing and moaning and take some responsibility for your own actions! start tipping at least 15% and stop acting like the world owes you something because they don't!

I'm trying to remember who I know who worked for tips that told me, and then I saw it firsthand myself between jobs delivering pizzas... but it appears black people are very poor tippers, as a group. When the odds are maybe 90% that you will get a pathetic tip, why waste your time?

Pretty hard for the 10% who do tip properly.

I know you guys will rag on me for this, and why I didn't say it earlier.

[Vici]

Have you ever worked food service? I have, and a lot of the waitstaff works both lunch and dinner. 11-2, and say, 5-10...hmmm. that's EIGHT hours in ONE day. Wow.

Let's knock of a generous 25% from my estimate for shifts they can't pick up, putting them at a pedestrian 30 hours a week waiting tables for only 16 people per hour who only order food that costs between $15 and $20 and receiving tips of only 15%. That's still $63,000 a year for a job that you can do with a HS diploma.

Do you seriously believe waiters make anywhere near that much?

Honestly, I want you to to type "I believe waiter make 60k+ a year."

FFS GMs and Head Chefs rarely make 60k. Most managers make half that.

[Vici]

I regularly go places like Red Lobster, Olive Garden, The Outback, etc. Sure, these people make good money when it's busy, but it's not busy all day. Especially in this economy. I'll agree they probably make $40+/hr when it's busy, but that's only a few hours a day.

LOL! A server at a good restaurant will make on average $12. I worked at a high end in Austin and I made just above that. It's a of a lot better than $8 but $40 an hour? Seriously? If servers made half that consistently I'd pick it back up to make extra cash.

[Wild Cobra]

LOL! A server at a good restaurant will make on average $12. I worked at a high end in Austin and I made just above that. It's a of a lot better than $8 but $40 an hour? Seriously? If servers made half that consistently I'd pick it back up to make extra cash.

I said when it's busy for a few hours, and it's not busy every day.

[Grey Spurfan]

I honestly did not know 15% was a ty tip. ! lmao We've been unknowingly enforcing the stereotype! Nobody ever said a thing. I've always heard that 15% is a decent tip and when we dine out with white friends, they tip 15% too.

Dammit I feel really ty now. How was I supposed to know this?

This is what happens when you don't have a father figure to teach you things like this tbh.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the waitress job hospitality

why not just increase ur food prices and pay them a hr wage then some stupid low wage bull and expect tips...

tipping is not accustomed down here...cause waiters earn 15-20 bucks and hour + superannuation 9%...if they get tips they dont usually disclose it on tax return cause its mainly cash in hand, but the tax office usually knows how much these ppl earn avg and usually get audited...

[Alice]

, I've seen bad tipping from all types of people and rudeness and Uncle Tomness and my don't stink at udes.

[The Reckoning]

middle aged white guys, church groups and the "dons" (usually the grandfather) of mexican families always tip the best

ranchers, super old people, women and black ppl tip

[Kai]

Waiters hate getting black people. That's just how the restaurant industry is.

[Nathan89]

lol 20% is average. Justify being a cheap anyway you want but you're still cheap. Guess when the last time the hourly rate for a server went up? Here is a hint, not in the last two decades.

And if you tip $4.5 on a $30 steak? Wow. Servers remember that. Fair warning.

http://honeymoons.about.com/cs/trave...ppingGuide.htm

Waiter
Tip 15 percent based on the pre-tax total, more if the service has been good in a low-priced restaurant. Tip 20-25 percent in a fine restaurant. If a service charge is already included, only add a tip for superior service.

Like I said 15-20% is fine. I doubt 20% is average.

Oh yeah someone mentioned a family member tipping based off the pre-tax total. I never thought or heard anything about that before but apparently that is the way to go.

My tip is decreasing

[Nathan89]

My parents are bad tippers. Sad but true. First, they insist that the tip should be taken from the subtotal. "I'm tipping the service, not the goverment!" They'll take 15% of that, and if it ends up being like 10-20 cents over a dollar, they'll round that down.

Myself, I'm usually a 20-30% tipper unless the service is just terrible, then I'll go down to 10-15%. Even 10% feels sheisty to me, but if you pay 15%, they don't get the point that you're tipping according to their bad service...they just think you're a bad tipper. And I always round up to the nearest dollar....none of that $X.39 crap.

Waiter
Tip 15 percent based on the pre-tax total, more if the service has been good in a low-priced restaurant. Tip 20-25 percent in a fine restaurant. If a service charge is already included, only add a tip for superior service.

Smart parents, IMHO. I bet you gave them about this before... they were in the right. At the very least you should recognize it's not a unreasonable thing to do.

[Vici]

http://honeymoons.about.com/cs/trave...ppingGuide.htm



Like I said 15-20% is fine. I doubt 20% is average.

Oh yeah someone mentioned a family member tipping based off the pre-tax total. I never thought or heard anything about that before but apparently that is the way to go.

Oprah said to not tip an anyalcoholic beverages. You may as well start doing that since it saves you money.

Doubt it all you want but it won't fix being wrong.

My tip is decreasing

Justify being a cheap anyway you want but you're still cheap.

[baseline bum]

http://honeymoons.about.com/cs/trave...ppingGuide.htm



Like I said 15-20% is fine. I doubt 20% is average.

Oh yeah someone mentioned a family member tipping based off the pre-tax total. I never thought or heard anything about that before but apparently that is the way to go.

My tip is decreasing

That link is ridiculous. You tip a higher percentage in an expensive restaurant than in a cheap one? What kind of garbage is that? In a little neighborhood joint the waiters don't make off $5-$10 plates + $2 tea, so why would one ever tip his waiter a lower percentage there than at a place with where he buys a $50 steak and $20 worth of booze?

[Dex]

Smart parents, IMHO. I bet you gave them about this before... they were in the right. At the very least you should recognize it's not a unreasonable thing to do.

I have, like two weeks ago in fact. Apparently it's a "going rule", but I don't necessarily think they just pulled the rule out of nowhere. I still think it's the cheap way to go, though.

[Creepn]

This is what happens when you don't have a father figure to teach you things like this tbh.

Shut it Persian!



You of all people could learn from this thread.

[AmericanPsycho]

I use my tip calculator and leave the correct 15% to the penny.

[spursncowboys]

Can we please stop calling them black people. The new term is negros. and did you pull a wad a money out and ask how much it would take to turn one of those white pies into a negro pie?

[Creepn]

I use my tip calculator and leave the correct 15% to the penny.

Apparently, you are still a ty tipper.

[Leetonidas]

I don't tip much because I'm a poor college student. You wanna make more money, get a better ing job that doesn't have you working off tips (unless you're a hot big- ted )