Another reason why religion is complete BS (Jehovah's Witness edition)

[redzero]

The belligerent athiests in this forum are delusional, beyond reprehension...

All the "anti-religious sentiment" expressed by the athiests in this forum is a religion in and of itself... They worship knowledge and wealth above all else, with "reason and logic" as their banner... Natural laws define and explain absolutely everything in our universe and are the catch-all, end-all, be-all of everything..! If an opposing view point doesn't jive with their world view, they simply attribute such 'dogma' as the product of inferior, weaker minds... but be careful to point out said dismissiveness as acts of arrogance because they will turn right around and call you a hypocrite...

They go further by attempting to tell us how unlogical, and crazy our GOD is by throwing HIS word in our faces WHEN THEY DON'T even understand the scriptures, their historical context, the implications of GOD's covenants and most of all, HIS character... but that doesn't stop them from drawing completely erroneous conclusions about GOD's nature, because after all, as erudite, ''learned'' men, they understand EVERYTHING they read, and cannot possibly err against their own beliefs... I doubt very seriously that any of the forum's athiests have actually read the Bible from cover to cover... preferring instead to dissect it and nit pick at their convenience (or lazily look up a website that has already done this for them)... AND YET, here they are, constantly cursing GOD's name, mocking His very existence, hurling insults at believers, constantly justifying their disbelief by branding together in their spiteful rhetoric (I believe this is why they originate such threads almost every week... they need constant subconcious reassurance that their rejection of GOD is validated)... I guess some of them simply like 'getting a rise' out of their trolling...

Note: the emphasis above was for belligerent athiests...

Off of the top of my head if I had to rank the "beligerence" of athiests/agnostics I have had the opportunity of engaging 'here' over the course of the years... the list would probably look something like this:

(Most belligerent)
DoK
.
Blake
redzero
.
.
boutons_deux
clambake
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
baseline bum
.
.
Can't_be_faded
.
(CD is in his own 'middle-of-the-pack' category)
ChumpDumper
.
.
(near bottom of list - sarcastic snippets, here and there - not outright hate)
ALVAREZ6
.
.
.
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
RuffnReadyOzStyle
.
MannyIsGod
.
ElNono
.
.
DarkReign
.
AdmiralSnackbar
.
RandomGuy
LnGrrrR
.
Mr. Peabody
scott
.
Drachen
.
.
CuckingFunt
.
.

The funny thing, despite what you all may think you all know about me, is that the guys (and gal) in the third segment of the list would probably be close friends of mine were we to be acquainted outside of this forum... Obviously, this is mere speculation, but they do mirror the type of people I have actually befriended over the years...

For example, my shared passion for soccer would be enough to befriend me with MannyIsGod, scott and ElNono... despite whatever differences they may percieve in our world / political views...

As for the assertion that Christians not be allowed to shape the laws of our land... What fascist doctrine would you all have to be upholding to deny that basic democratic right against the citizens of this nation...? Anyone can lobby to shape the government as they see fit... even the Ku Klux Klan has that right (even if we don't agree with their beliefs)... ultimately however, the prevalent view is the one that wins out. That's how democracy works... In the athiest world-view however, [based on the comments in this thread - or the countless other religion-bashing threads in this forum] opposing views should "shut up" and stay out of the way! That 'suppression of voice' is laughable to the point of absurdness... "Do as I say, not as I do!" That said, the deliberate pandering of "Christian" politicians (such as Palin, Bush etc...) is absolutely reprehensible...

lol creationist re

[101A]

I have no problem if brother and sister want to get married. It doesn't harm me and they have every right to do so if they want to.

Might want to take a genetics course before you set that belief in stone.

Just sayin.

[Blake]

Might want to take a genetics course before you set that belief in stone.

Just sayin.

Is it possible for genetic problems to arise in biologically unrelated parents?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Might want to take a genetics course before you set that belief in stone.

Just sayin.

Excuse me while I choke to death on the irony of a Christian pretending to give a about babies being born without birth defects.

[Leetonidas]

The belligerent athiests in this forum are delusional, beyond reprehension...

All the "anti-religious sentiment" expressed by the athiests in this forum is a religion in and of itself... They worship knowledge and wealth above all else, with "reason and logic" as their banner... Natural laws define and explain absolutely everything in our universe and are the catch-all, end-all, be-all of everything..! If an opposing view point doesn't jive with their world view, they simply attribute such 'dogma' as the product of inferior, weaker minds... but be careful to point out said dismissiveness as acts of arrogance because they will turn right around and call you a hypocrite...

They go further by attempting to tell us how unlogical, and crazy our GOD is by throwing HIS word in our faces WHEN THEY DON'T even understand the scriptures, their historical context, the implications of GOD's covenants and most of all, HIS character... but that doesn't stop them from drawing completely erroneous conclusions about GOD's nature, because after all, as erudite, ''learned'' men, they understand EVERYTHING they read, and cannot possibly err against their own beliefs... I doubt very seriously that any of the forum's athiests have actually read the Bible from cover to cover... preferring instead to dissect it and nit pick at their convenience (or lazily look up a website that has already done this for them)... AND YET, here they are, constantly cursing GOD's name, mocking His very existence, hurling insults at believers, constantly justifying their disbelief by branding together in their spiteful rhetoric (I believe this is why they originate such threads almost every week... they need constant subconcious reassurance that their rejection of GOD is validated)... I guess some of them simply like 'getting a rise' out of their trolling...

Note: the emphasis above was for belligerent athiests...

Off of the top of my head if I had to rank the "beligerence" of athiests/agnostics I have had the opportunity of engaging 'here' over the course of the years... the list would probably look something like this:

(Most belligerent)
DoK
.
Blake
redzero
.
.
boutons_deux
clambake
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
baseline bum
.
.
Can't_be_faded
.
(CD is in his own 'middle-of-the-pack' category)
ChumpDumper
.
.
(near bottom of list - sarcastic snippets, here and there - not outright hate)
ALVAREZ6
.
.
.
Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
RuffnReadyOzStyle
.
MannyIsGod
.
ElNono
.
.
DarkReign
.
AdmiralSnackbar
.
RandomGuy
LnGrrrR
.
Mr. Peabody
scott
.
Drachen
.
.
CuckingFunt
.
.

The funny thing, despite what you all may think you all know about me, is that the guys (and gal) in the third segment of the list would probably be close friends of mine were we to be acquainted outside of this forum... Obviously, this is mere speculation, but they do mirror the type of people I have actually befriended over the years...

For example, my shared passion for soccer would be enough to befriend me with MannyIsGod, scott and ElNono... despite whatever differences they may percieve in our world / political views...

As for the assertion that Christians not be allowed to shape the laws of our land... What fascist doctrine would you all have to be upholding to deny that basic democratic right against the citizens of this nation...? Anyone can lobby to shape the government as they see fit... even the Ku Klux Klan has that right (even if we don't agree with their beliefs)... ultimately however, the prevalent view is the one that wins out. That's how democracy works... In the athiest world-view however, [based on the comments in this thread - or the countless other religion-bashing threads in this forum] opposing views should "shut up" and stay out of the way! That 'suppression of voice' is laughable to the point of absurdness... "Do as I say, not as I do!" That said, the deliberate pandering of "Christian" politicians (such as Palin, Bush etc...) is absolutely reprehensible...

You forgot about this guy you religite

[mingus]

I admitted to no such thing. I noted the 10:48pm time stamp on your post and forged a conclusion as to what you were thinking about right before you went to bed.

I then simply said one was better than the other.

IDGAF. I don't even hate Athiests. I have Athiest and Agnostic friends. 11 bed time? I wish.

[bag of spinach]

Lettuce pray.

[mingus]

This is my biggest issue. Why do people care so much about two gay people they'll never meet getting married? It has no impact on their lives and does them no harm.

It's not that I think it hurts me in any way. Calling something marriage has nothing to do with whether it hurts me or not. It's just a belief that union between man and women is what makes a marriage.

[Leetonidas]

And other people believe otherwise. Why do you care?

[mingus]

Why do you care that I care?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Because you want to make laws prohibiting the rights of some people who don't share your beliefs. Why is it you continue to dance around that minor detail refusing to address it?

[Koolaid_Man]

Because you want to make laws prohibiting the rights of some people who don't share your beliefs. Why is it you continue to dance around that minor detail refusing to address it?

Hey Doki my man...I got over slavery so you need to get over the Holocaust and stop hating

[JoeChalupa]

When it comes to religion I believe and let it go at that. What others believe or dont believe is on them. Of course I get the "but you are supposed to "save" others" speech but I don't push my beliefs on anyone else.
Mouse bashes me all the time for being Catholic but it goes in one ear and out the other.

[Koolaid_Man]

[Leetonidas]

Why do you care that I care?

I don't care I just find your hypocrisy and stupidity amusing you disgusting hate monger

[redzero]

Hey Doki my man...I got over slavery so you need to get over the Holocaust and stop hating

Why would you need to get over slavery? It's okay in God's book.

[Blake]

IDGAF. I don't even hate Athiests. I have Athiest and Agnostic friends. 11 bed time? I wish.

Who said you hate Athiests or anyone else?

[Axe Murderer]

Hey Doki my man...I got over slavery so you need to get over the Holocaust and stop hating

But yet to get over 122-86

tee, hee

[Blake]

Of course I get the "but you are supposed to "save" others" speech but I don't push my beliefs on anyone else.

what if you don't "save" others? will that affect your free pass to heaven?

[JoeChalupa]

what if you don't "save" others? will that affect your free pass to heaven?

I have no free pass and only God knows.

[Blake]

I have no free pass and only God knows.

the Bible says you have a free gift. No work involved.

seems to me you are proving baseline bum's point.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Hey Doki my man...I got over slavery so you need to get over the Holocaust and stop hating

The Holocaust got us Jews our own country smack in the center of the middle east to bully arabs. Best thing that ever happened to us tbh, no reason to be butthurt.

[The Reckoning]

damn sand wiggers

[diego]

I'll stick the OP's point...

My stepfather's place has Jehovah's crawling around damn near every weekend.

He likes to with them. According to him, a pair of Witnesses were at his door trying to spread the word, so he invited them in. They were going on with their business and my stepfather is acting all interested and asks "Yeah man, totally. I think Jimi Hendrix is frickin awesome too! By far my favorite artist."

*confused stare*

Maybe they might have "got it" if he had cited Dylan instead.

I may be way off on this, since I'm basing my knowledge of Witnesses on a novel (White Teeth, excellent book that has a Witness character in it)

As far as coercive myths go, the Witnesses story is just bizarre. AFAIK, they believe a definite number (144.000 or something like that) of people have been pre-selected by God to join him in heaven. So, even if you become a Witness and do everything a good witness should do, but you aren't on the list, tough luck no heaven for you. And even if you are an asshole but through "mysterious ways" God selected you to be saved, into heaven you go even if you never even heard of Jehovah's Witness. There is no incentive to join their church, beyond getting them to stop knocking your door at 10 am in the morning.

At least Christians/Muslims understand how to motivate people!

[JoeChalupa]

the Bible says you have a free gift. No work involved.

seems to me you are proving baseline bum's point.

If that is what you believe then so be it. I'm not trying to prove any point. I'm Catholic, I believe and that is all.