if the increased revenue sharing is 3 times what it used to be like its been purported then the Spurs might not be as cheap as they have been framing the pay schedule whatever way notwithstanding.
Interesting, but I think either of the two emboldened bits below are more likely...
The RJ contract is the worst handed out by the Spurs FO in my memory. It's become a ing albatross around our necks, just like I said it was the day it was announced. I really hope they find some miraculous way to move him, or to get him to play with some heart.
I'm curious given the Spurs have practically given up on RJ , and assuming they still keep him at least for the season. How will they use him? seriously is he going to be playing less than 20 min a game or even less? I can't see how a guy who is paid 5 x more than his teamates (Anderson and Neal) ends up playing less minutes. If RJ has any pride left in him, he should ask to be traded
yes, he will play less than less than 20min
this.
no GM in the world could survive a 39 million gift for a 12.4 PER, plus an epic PO fail. they will try to controle the damage at any cost. maybe use the AC on RJ in 2012, when it still looks bad, but not that bad.
I see a good chance they trade him for another very bad AC candidate contract and at least get the chance that the other player fits better. the money is gone anyway. (Haywood? Harrington? Hamilton? Biedrins? Outlaw? Villanueva?)
I can see several teams try this strategy, befor they finally use the AC.
I don't see how AC-ing RJ now will help the Spurs. It's not like they'd have more money to spend on FAs. He's not very good and does not justify his salary, however, he's not the reason why the Spurs can't contend anymore. That reason is Tim Duncan.
How it would help the Spurs:
If the Spurs buyout McDyess on his partial guarantee, their total salaries plus capholds would be about 72 million per Bruno. That puts them over the tax, and unless I'm mistaken, limits their MLE options.
According to SI:
Instead, the Spurs being over that amount would only have the 'mini-MLE', a three year deal starting at $3 million, instead of being able to offer a 4 year deal starting at $5 million.• Every team can use the full mid-level exception, provided doing so does not take the team more than $4 million over the tax line.
Only having 3 million to spend on replacements for McDyess, or to sign more washed up has-beens like Vince Carter, Caron Butler, or Josh Howard is limiting for the Spurs, as they would already be paying tax dollars and then taxed on the new deals. That could cost them a player they want who could get the full 5 million MLE from another team, like Caron Butler.
So if they signed Scrubs McGoo at 3 million, they would then pay about 5 million in tax this year plus have Jefferson's terrible play sucking up minutes and ruining the development of players who could contribute.
BUT, if McDyess is brought back for some reason they're even more screwed, and their total is about 74.5 (remember, they could have cut him before the lockout, but made an agreement with him to delay his fate until the new season, maybe for trade purposes, but also maybe to wait for him to change his mind). Then, they'd be paying an extra about 7.5 million in tax this year if they used the tax mini-MLE.
So what could they get by junking Jefferson?
First and foremost, they get out from under the luxury tax. If McDyess is bought out, that takes their total number down to about 63 million. That saves the Spurs $2 million in tax plus gives them a tax payout, though only half of what it would have been under the old deal.
Then, by being at 63 million, they have full use of the MLE starting at $5 million. And they can use it and still not be in the luxury tax. That could be a big deal.
If McDyess comes back and they amnesty RJ, then their salary is about 65.5 million. They could spend up the full $5 million a year, though it would likely take them into the tax, albeit barely. But they could also pay about 4-4.5 a year if they wanted, and barely be under the tax.
AND if they amnesty RJ and some other team puts in a waiver bid on him, that saves the Spurs even more money.
So if some team bids $9 million for the remaining 3 years of his deal and wins (3 per year), that saves the Spurs a lot more money. Without Dyess and with an MLE, they'd save $5 million in taxes, 9 million in waiver payments, and get whatever their share of tax payout is. That's taking RJ's $30 million remaining down to about 15-16 million. RJ obligations get cut almost in half.
That's a good reason to do it. Even if RJ clears waivers with no bids, the Spurs save 5 million in tax money plus payout. If McDyess comes back, they still would save about 7.5 million in tax money plus possible payout.
That's free money.
AND it preserves the ability for the Spurs to sign the giant mistake of their choice, like Caron Butler.
I see your point and agree with most of it, objective, however I don't think Holt will eat RJ's remaining 30mil ( or a bit less if another team claims him off waivers ), so that he could be able to spend even more money using the whole MLE. Not after crying poverty all summer long.
I think they'll try to shop him around all season long, if they fail, they could eventually think about cutting him next summer, but the way to get under the tax threshold for this season, would be by trading away Danny Green/ Da'Sean Butler/ James Anderson ( depending on the lux tax threshold, as far as I know it hasn't been determined yet ).
Of course trading RJ and getting a bit less salary back would also help in this regard. They could also trade Dice's contract with a 2nd round pick and cash to a team under the cap for a TE or something like that.
All much cheaper moves than AC-ing RJ. All IMO, of course.
I'm not guaranteeing that RJ gets amnestied. For a long time I thought it preposterous that he would get cut, thinking like many that Holt wouldn't eat his deal. The waiver bid process changed my mind and made me consider it a real possibility after the realistic benefits of it.
But I would say in regards to Holt spending the whole MLE . . .
It looks like from afar that it is going to happen anyway, be it the full MLE or the limited taxpayer MLE.
These players they're alleged to be after in media reports: Caron Butler, Shane Battier, Grant Hill . . . they're not signing for the veteran's minimum. Maybe Josh Howard or Mo Evans would. Maybe Vince Carter would.
So regardless of whether RJ is amnestied, it sure looks like Holt will be spending money on RJ's replacement anyway. Even if not an outright replacement if RJ is still on the roster, at the very least, a displacement that would take minutes away.
this.
the Spurs situation is different to 2009 (when they traded for RJ) and so will be their policy. the question is not, how to create as much exception money as possible to somehow improve the team by FA signings. I also can't see Holt eat 30 million $ just to produce 2 more million for spending on FAs. I can't see him do this, if they truly believe they are just one piece away from another championship. and for sure I can't see him do this, when Spurs are lightyears away from contending.
as you say, the best chance might be that we see a trade for a bad contract of an underachiebver from an other team, that pays less per season.
RJ for Josh Childress (plus filler) for example.
I was thinking along the lines of RJ + Dice for Biedrins + Amundson, throw picks, cash etc.
some more details on amnesty: http://t.co/CFUZMv68
Thanks for the link. There goes all the "trade RJ and the team that gets him can amnesty him" ideas. Any team trading for RJ is going to have to want him, or be sending the Spurs back an even worse contract.
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Parker, on potential amnesty for Jefferson: 'I love RJ but that’s a question to ask Pop. Whatever Pop decides, that’s fine with me”
according to Marc Stein:
So if things do work out as Stein's "most likely scenario", the Spurs can't wait until the season starts to see how terrible RJ is and then amnesty him. They can't pitter-patter and wait too long for trades hoping some team fails it's way out of free agency and for some reason would want RJ.The most likely scenario, sources say, is that teams will have a seven-day window to use the amnesty clause this season before opening night and before it goes away until the 2012 offseason. But the specific dates for that seven-day window, sources say, have not yet been finalized.
It's either do the right thing and amnesty him within 7 days or watch him fail and take minutes away from more deserving players only to finally get benched in the final playoff game until next year.
Do the right thing, RC. Do the right thing, Pop. Get this guy out of here and give Leonard and Anderson their rightful opportunities.
Awesome.
This day might be the highlight of the season. And it was worth it.
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