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    And I believe the Maloofs will fire Westphal before they trade Cousins.

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    No way the Spurs go after Cousins.
    If somehow the Spurs did get him, can you imagine what would happen the first time Pop pulled him from the line up in favor of Bonner?

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    By all accounts, Kings want to keep him and will get rid of Westphal.

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    Kings say they won’t trade Cousins

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_yl...s_kings_010112

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    ^ To maintain any value that's what they have to say.

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    ^ To maintain any value that's what they have to say.
    It also makes perfect sense. They've got a young player with tremendous talent with three years remaining on a cheap rookie contract. On the other side, they have a coach in the last year of his contract who has won less than one third of his games in Sacramento.

    They're also in a rather unique position where they don't have to care very much about winning this season. Sacramento has to come up with a new arena or the Kings are going to move to Anaheim.

    The Maloofs will discard Westphal and try a different approach with Cousins before they seriously contemplate a trade.

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    I believe they'll definitely get rid of Westphal before Cousins. There will eventually be a breaking point for the team when he won't be worth the trouble -- it's probably not yet though. By all accounts, no one has been able to deal with Cousins at all so far. He's fought with a variety of players, Westphal over and and over, and even with Mario Elie. I don't know if it would be different with any coach. It seems like he just needs to grow up -- no one can force that.

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    It also makes perfect sense. They've got a young player with tremendous talent with three years remaining on a cheap rookie contract. On the other side, they have a coach in the last year of his contract who has won less than one third of his games in Sacramento.

    They're also in a rather unique position where they don't have to care very much about winning this season. Sacramento has to come up with a new arena or the Kings are going to move to Anaheim.

    The Maloofs will discard Westphal and try a different approach with Cousins before they seriously contemplate a trade.
    Probably what they'll do, and it will not work in the long run. DC will just think he can get rid of coaches at will.

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    Probably what they'll do, and it will not work in the long run. DC will just think he can get rid of coaches at will.
    Probably so.

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    Sprewell would have kept Manu in Italy.
    How do you figure? Manu's first season with the Spurs was 2002-2003.

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    How do you figure? Manu's first season with the Spurs was 2002-2003.
    You are aware of the deal the Knicks gave him after the 99 Finals? If you're going to live in a fantasy where he would have helped the Spurs prevent the Laker threepeat, you also have to assume that the Spurs would have paid the price to keep him.

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    I believe they'll definitely get rid of Westphal before Cousins. There will eventually be a breaking point for the team when he won't be worth the trouble -- it's probably not yet though. By all accounts, no one has been able to deal with Cousins at all so far. He's fought with a variety of players, Westphal over and and over, and even with Mario Elie. I don't know if it would be different with any coach. It seems like he just needs to grow up -- no one can force that.
    IMHO this dude will never grow up and act like a pro. To grow up you need to have some fundamentals, he has no.

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    No way the Spurs go after Cousins.
    If somehow the Spurs did get him, can you imagine what would happen the first time Pop pulled him from the line up in favor of Bonner?
    They'd make Horry do Pop's dirty work like against the Suns that time?

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    You are aware of the deal the Knicks gave him after the 99 Finals? If you're going to live in a fantasy where he would have helped the Spurs prevent the Laker threepeat, you also have to assume that the Spurs would have paid the price to keep him.
    You pay that price to add him to the frontline of Robinson/Duncan.
    The spurs had considered Sprewell then were scared off.

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    The Spurs were interested in a fat and done Rasheed Wallace before they had to settle on Antonio McDyess (thank the basketball gods for that btw), so I think the Spurs would take Cousins in, if the price was right. Then again, Cousins is a much bigger headcase than Sheed ever was. It also means less touches for Blair and Splitter, Blair's game just didn't seem the same after he got benched and had fewer opportunities last season

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    You pay that price to add him to the frontline of Robinson/Duncan.
    The spurs had considered Sprewell then were scared off.
    i believe they wanted sprewell, but the problem was we had PJ Carlesimo on coachin bench...

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    Neal & that guy who drove face ass down drunk withstanding.
    They were mistakes().... like you, tbh

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    You pay that price to add him to the frontline of Robinson/Duncan.
    The spurs had considered Sprewell then were scared off.
    Not trading for Sprewell was an excellent decision in both basketball and financial terms.

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    i believe they wanted sprewell, but the problem was we had PJ Carlesimo on coachin bench...
    PJ didn't join the Spurs until 2002.

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    Cousins for Bonner works straight up. If only...

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    They were mistakes()
    My ass.

    Cry me a river.

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    They'd make Horry do Pop's dirty work like against the Suns that time?
    Money. The Spurs need a bad boy to do the enforcer job for them in the playoffs...

    Who did that in 03 and 05? I wonder...

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    I believe they'll definitely get rid of Westphal before Cousins. There will eventually be a breaking point for the team when he won't be worth the trouble -- it's probably not yet though. By all accounts, no one has been able to deal with Cousins at all so far. He's fought with a variety of players, Westphal over and and over, and even with Mario Elie. I don't know if it would be different with any coach. It seems like he just needs to grow up -- no one can force that.
    I agree, but it won't be because of Cousins. Westphal's just not that good of a coach. I think for Cousins to be successful, he probably needs to be with a respected coach, like Pop, Phil Jackson and/or with a team with a core of veterans like the Spurs or the Celtics.

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    See Eddie Curry.

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    tbh, I have a feeling Kings are going to want to package him with "The Microwave" Thornton, who's due $32 million for the next 4 seasons and a blackhole.

    I just don't think they're going to let him walk for the equivalent of $4.5m...
    I heard that they were trying to package him with John Salmons.

    With that being said, I would love to have his talent on the team, depending upon the price. This is basically a "best offer" situation - Sacramento will trade Cousins to the team that offers them the best deal (no matter how piss poor that offer is). I know that Houston is interested in Cousins, as are several other teams, so we'll just have to see.

    That being said, I haven't heard any rumors that the Spurs are interested, so it's all just probably conjecture anyway.

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