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    Difference of opinion. That damned belly-bump thing he does out above the 3P line has cause our guards (and a lot of others) a world of trouble. He's disruptive as . I know he's lost a step, but I still think he's a better defender than he gets credit for. But I know that going against conventional wisdom is going to draw a lot of fire.

    Still, I'd rather have a smart, experienced backup PG than one who belongs in the D-League.
    Fisher's get out of jail free card just expired. His bag of tricks won't fly as a spur. If he flops he'll be whistled for blocking fouls, if he slaps at the ball he'll be whistled for fouls. If he shoves Brent Barry out on the 3 point line he'll be whistled for a foul. Starting to see a pattern here?

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    Unless your a brand new fan of the Spurs, I don't understand how you can be shaking your head at the reason why the Lakers have more assets to make player personnel moves than the Spurs. smh.
    @ calling Fisher "an asset"

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    Don't you guys realize just how bad Turiaf is??? He is awful. I get you guys want height, but we need contributors, not liabilities. He would easily be the second to last worst player on our team. Right there in front of Joseph. And that is the honest truth. If we could get Diaw, Diaw could actually contribute. I hear Diaw is in bad shape? Well, maybe he would be motivated to try and win a le with the Spurs. Diaw in shape is a very solid player! He could really help us if he got into shape and came hungry. No pun intended.

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    Is it just me or are people overrating the Lakers trade deadline moves?

    I mean, they upgraded the PG position, but it's just Ramon Sessions who doesn't shoot well anyway. Jordan Hill is a nice prospect, but I can't see either of those players making the Lakers "significantly" better like a lot of the press is stating. Better yes, but nothing major.

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    Diaw > Turiaf. Don't know why we can't have both? Turiaf is 6 fouls and adds some height to team. I wouldn't expect him to contribute unless needed.

    Also read Turiaf may be injured too?

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    Fish wouldn't be my first choice for a starting point guard, but it's tough to make a case against him as a backup, and you know he's going to be able to hold the fort if Parker gets banged up. Clutch gene would also be nice.

    For those of you whining about his three point percentage, it's quite a bit different when Shaq's the focal point of the offense from when Kobe's the focal point of the offense. At least we know he's used to not getting many shots. He might just be happy to touch the ball when he's on the floor for a change.

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    Don't you guys realize just how bad Turiaf is??? He is awful. I get you guys want height, but we need contributors, not liabilities. He would easily be the second to last worst player on our team. Right there in front of Joseph. And that is the honest truth. If we could get Diaw, Diaw could actually contribute. I hear Diaw is in bad shape? Well, maybe he would be motivated to try and win a le with the Spurs. Diaw in shape is a very solid player! He could really help us if he got into shape and came hungry. No pun intended.
    Spurs should hire Jenny Craig with some of the savings from the RJ/SJax swap.

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    Is it just me or are people overrating the Lakers trade deadline moves?

    I mean, they upgraded the PG position, but it's just Ramon Sessions who doesn't shoot well anyway. Jordan Hill is a nice prospect, but I can't see either of those players making the Lakers "significantly" better like a lot of the press is stating. Better yes, but nothing major.
    Fans rarely make good objective reporters, and most of the reporters are Laker fans.

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    Diaw is not only out of shape, he's really really dumb. But he is tall...

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    @ calling Fisher "an asset"
    Huh? Where in my post did I mention Fisher? I replied to this particular moronic take of yours:

    Lakers just majorly bolstered their team with Sessions and Jordan Hill while spurs discuss Justin Dentmon and a fat french blob.

    smh

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    Fish wouldn't be my first choice for a starting point guard, but it's tough to make a case against him as a backup, and you know he's going to be able to hold the fort if Parker gets banged up. Clutch gene would also be nice.

    For those of you whining about his three point percentage, it's quite a bit different when Shaq's the focal point of the offense from when Kobe's the focal point of the offense. At least we know he's used to not getting many shots. He might just be happy to touch the ball when he's on the floor for a change.
    Spurs don't need Fisher, they have Gary Neal for that clutch shooting already. What they could use is another small quick guard who can defend small quick guards (esp in P&R) for when Parker is resting. This is probably Fisher's worst attribute.

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    I don't know how anyone could give a thumbs down to acquiring Fish, especially given the cir stances.

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    the guy that couldn't even break into Wizards rotation?

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    Lakers just majorly bolstered their team with Sessions and Jordan Hill while spurs discuss Justin Dentmon and a fat french blob.

    smh
    Do you even watch basketball

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    I don't know how anyone could give a thumbs down to acquiring Fish, especially given the cir stances.
    Because he's washed up and can't defend worth a salt anymore. Now take away his special bag of tricks that only works in a purple and gold uniform and this guy's defense really gets ugly.

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    Because he's washed up and can't defend worth a salt anymore. Now take away his special bag of tricks that only works in a purple and gold uniform and this guy's defense really gets ugly.

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    Because he's washed up and can't defend worth a salt anymore. Now take away his special bag of tricks that only works in a purple and gold uniform and this guy's defense really gets ugly.
    Yeah yeah, I'll give you this. The alternative is Neal running point for stretches. Is Fishs D uglier than that?

    I think the Spurs need to quit playing people out of position and get bodies in their customary positions.

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    Do you even watch basketball

    I've been limited to what games TNT and NBATV have shown.
    I've read every single Timvp grade thread, and I feel that's almost as good as watching a game tbh.

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    I agree with Amused. Lakers moves were solid but not spectacular at all. They got better basketball-wise and shed some salary which makes them good moves, but they surrendered both their draft picks for pretty low value (not with regards to their savings, but what teams paid to get them).

    Sessions is definitely an upgrade over Fisher physically and skill wise at this point, but he's still an unknown with regards to how he will play under the pressure of LA. Not to mention and PG in LA's system is going to be somewhat muted since Kobe takes more shots than any player in the NBA and requires the ball in his hands a lot. Sessions should help them defensively however.

    Jordan Hill is arguably better than Murphy/McRoberts & even if not he adds some big man depth, but it's not some game changer (at least on paper at this point).

    I get they were able to turn one rotational player into potentially 2 and save some money, but it came at a cost (2 first rounders) and it wasn't a huge jump basketball wise.

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    I agree with Amused. Lakers moves were solid but not spectacular at all. They got better basketball-wise and shed some salary which makes them good moves, but they surrendered both their draft picks for pretty low value (not with regards to their savings, but what teams paid to get them).

    Sessions is definitely an upgrade over Fisher physically and skill wise at this point, but he's still an unknown with regards to how he will play under the pressure of LA. Not to mention and PG in LA's system is going to be somewhat muted since Kobe takes more shots than any player in the NBA and requires the ball in his hands a lot. Sessions should help them defensively however.

    Jordan Hill is arguably better than Murphy/McRoberts & even if not he adds some big man depth, but it's not some game changer (at least on paper at this point).

    I get they were able to turn one rotational player into potentially 2 and save some money, but it came at a cost (2 first rounders) and it wasn't a huge jump basketball wise.
    I see it as a significant upgrade.

    Sessions has been averaging 11 and 5 in 24 minutes, and more importantly he's more than a decade younger than Fisher. Trying to argue that he somehow will be intimidated by the lights and pressure reeks of butthurt. You know damn well you wish the spurs had acquired him.

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    I agree with Amused. Lakers moves were solid but not spectacular at all. They got better basketball-wise and shed some salary which makes them good moves, but they surrendered both their draft picks for pretty low value (not with regards to their savings, but what teams paid to get them).

    Sessions is definitely an upgrade over Fisher physically and skill wise at this point, but he's still an unknown with regards to how he will play under the pressure of LA. Not to mention and PG in LA's system is going to be somewhat muted since Kobe takes more shots than any player in the NBA and requires the ball in his hands a lot. Sessions should help them defensively however.

    Jordan Hill is arguably better than Murphy/McRoberts & even if not he adds some big man depth, but it's not some game changer (at least on paper at this point).

    I get they were able to turn one rotational player into potentially 2 and save some money, but it came at a cost (2 first rounders) and it wasn't a huge jump basketball wise.
    The Lakers improved with their trades, but one aspect no one has mentioned, is who fills the learship void left by Fisher?

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    I see it as a significant upgrade.

    Sessions has been averaging 11 and 5 in 24 minutes, and more importantly he's more than a decade younger than Fisher. Trying to argue that he somehow will be intimidated by the lights and pressure reeks of butthurt. You know damn well you wish the spurs had acquired him.
    Not really, but then again we're not in the dire PG situation Lakers were in. Sessions will be an upgrade over Fisher, but that's not saying anything. And you think Jordan Hill is significant piece shows you don't know what you're talking about

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    I see it as a significant upgrade.

    Sessions has been averaging 11 and 5 in 24 minutes, and more importantly he's more than a decade younger than Fisher. Trying to argue that he somehow will be intimidated by the lights and pressure reeks of butthurt. You know damn well you wish the spurs had acquired him.
    Sessions is a PG who needs the ball in his hands to thrive. He will do well when Bryant is on the bench, but when the Colorado creep is back on the court, he will struggle.

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    The Lakers improved with their trades, but one aspect no one has mentioned, is who fills the learship void left by Fisher?
    Bynum and Gasol most likely. Just a guess.

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    I see it as a significant upgrade.

    Sessions has been averaging 11 and 5 in 24 minutes, and more importantly he's more than a decade younger than Fisher. Trying to argue that he somehow will be intimidated by the lights and pressure reeks of butthurt. You know damn well you wish the spurs had acquired him.
    This is a silly post. You are a silly poster.

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