I never argue with rest.
Never understood the wanting to run guys into the ground like some do here, and some here are also the same to complain "Duncan and Parker look tired out there"
RJ continuing to play and start virtually led to him being able to be shipped out. If Pop would have benched his ass like most on here have called for the last 2 years he would still be here collecting a paycheck. The fact that teams looked down here and saw Pop playing him so much made them believe he actually had a lot left.
Of course they could have amnestied him but Holt didn't want to write a 30mil dollar check. Don't blame him.
You say that like he's not a major reason why the pickn'roll is successful when he runs it. Why doesn't Blair just do the same thing? It's because he can't. Blair isn't as smart and he doesn't move as well as Splitter. So yes Splitter creates shots for himself by running the pickn'roll well. Is he the best post up player? No, but Blair sucks at that as well. The biggest difference though is the fact that Splitter is a really good defensive player and Blair isn't.
agreed, I like the fact that Pop give rest to the players. Really no one should have a problem with it because we still win in the regular season. I do however disagree with Pop resting Manu against the Thunder. If he was healthy he needed to play. He needs to get back in game shape, integrate with the team, and it's important see how we matchup against Thunder.
This. The lead was down to 5, then it was promptly doubled when those two came out. Smh over that move.
Actually Dallas went on their last rundue to Parker going in rather than manu coming out
Still no takers on a better coach...
And its very clear why. Its easier to criticize than to find strong points in coaching. Its almost like politics. Smearing is easy. Admiration for good moves absent.
There are numerous times I watch and wonder why that move or this move was made. But I dont know the team as individuals except what I see on the tube. Apparently people have inside info on medical, personal, practices, that I dont have. There is no one that I can name in the NBA or otherwise that I would rather have coaching the Spurs. No one. This does not mean Pop is the best coach. He is the best coach for this team. Its his team. Get over it. Being critical is fine, but when one mentions fire... thats knee jerk no thinking, change without a plan.
Who is ready to start over with this current team? Blow it up? I got some questions.
I'm sticking with my re ed monkey suggestion. At least with a re ed monkey there's theoreticallly a 50/50 chance Splitter might get more minutes than Bonner. At this point, I'd call that improvement.
Doc Rivers. Now tell me why Pop is so much better.
I'd prefer someone who prepared his team for the playoffs.
Possibly, but it's the fact that he messed with it when it was working. No coach calls more timeouts that derail the Spurs' momentum more than Pop does.
Really? Doc Rivers? Guy who has 4 all stars and 1 ring? Seriously?
You tell me why Doc is better than Pop. His record doesn't reflect it despite the talent on his team.
Are you serious? This is the old Mavs reincarnated, only now they're elite defensively and sub par offensively. But it's the same old thing, in terms of being a video game roster. Player stacked on top of player, no real role definition and a clear lack of chemistry. The reason they won last season is because, in addition to catching lightning in a bottle and having things break just right (Lakers out of gas, Heat needing more time, Thunder a year away, Spurs out of the way), they had all of those things going for them.
I'll have to see the playoff match-ups and injury situations at the time, but I'd be very surprised if this team made the Conference Finals.
And if Kidd could play like that on a consistent basis, he would. That's a ridiculous statement though, because it can apply to any outlier. But that's why they're called outliers, because they're beyond highly unlikely to be done on anything close to a consistent basis.
And how many rings does Pop have since '08? How many playoff series has he won since '08?
They both won the same amount of rings, none. doc has won 5 series to Pops 1, although the Celtics played against some teams in the East.
1ring, KG got hurt, finals game 7 and starting C got hurt, old and had to play against miami
I find nothing wrong with what he did with those players.
So?
Look at his coaching record and look at Pops. How can you even compare the two?
Coaches have to be judged by their results, just like teams. You cannot say a team with less talent is better than a team with more talent when the team with more talent has a better winning record. You're grading on a curve.
Of course a great coach can have a ty record if they go to a team with a ty ownership. Decision making in their career is one of the factors that makes a coach a great one, which is why Phil Jackson is considered a great coach even though he had overwhelming odds in his favor most of the time.
It's not about Kidd playing consistently. It's about someone stepping up for someone else when they don't play consistent. Last year Dirk covered a lot of bases, but there were others who stepped up, especially on defense against Lebron.
So, Doc came within one quarter/1 perkins injury from winning the absolute most he could since 2008.
Pop didn't play Splitter much last year and then replace Blair with him in the playoffs. That led to TD and Splitter starting lineup. Now this year he doesn't prepare the lineup he went to in last year's playoffs. It just doesn't make sense too me. This decision is so bad too me that I believe that there are many coaches that can do a better job for the Spurs. Can I name them all? No, because I don't focus on every decision of every coach. I brought up Doc because I think he is a good coach that has met expectations since 2008 given certain cir stances.
To me, Pop deserves a big fat "F" for a grade.
Seriously, Pop tried to go through Timmy like it was 2005, and the ball didn't move, Tim was slow to make passes, and the entire offense looked s shocked by the offensive sets.
The team played better when Timmy was out because the ball moved. I'm not blaming TD on this, I blame Pop. You simply can't regress and play a style that you haven't played all year and expect to do well.
I realize that the defense was packing it in to stop Tony, but if that is the case, set some picks to allow TP to get to the rim...I was shocked by how few picks were set for TP.
On a positive note, the Spurs played horrible, got some very questionable calls against them, and still had a chance late in the game, and I feel confident Kidd won't shot that well from three again all season.
Who is talking about Blair? I said Splitter needs more time then with Duncan then Blair, all I'm saying is he needs to at least be somewhat of a factor on the offensive side of the ball against the bigger teams like the Lakers. Trust me I'm not criticizing his defense.
No doubt, but moving forward if he does get more time, he needs to improve that aspect of his game.He finishes better than Blair, is a much smarter player, and actually has enough size to block/defend in the post. As long as Blair is on this team, Splitter should be free from criticism.
Just a quick note. George Hill used to do a pretty good job on Jason Terry the last couple of seasons. Hill got burned a lot by some PGs, but I thought Terry was one smallish SG/PG he could defend quite well.
Ploto, I'm just thinking of that Rasho trade right now and in hindsight would not have done it if I knew Bonner was going to be getting these minutes years later. He was supposed to be a throw in and Pop is running this clown in crunch time on a regular basis.
I thought at the time Rasho was a little soft, but he was a lot tougher Bonner.
This is a great point and I have thought about it since the trade. I may have been wrong to ask for RJ getting benched earlier like I wanted, and we might not have been able to trade him if Pop did that.
The question is would Pop have benched RJ after the trade deadline if they were unable to trade him?
I actually made a thread about who won the Rasho/Bonner trade. Granted, it worked out well as a salary dump, the black cloud that is Bonner has derailed the franchise in recent years.
Now, Rasho is a retired, well-respected elder statesman of European basketball, and Bonner is playing in crunch time!
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