Prove that Kobe is not Top 10 Player of all-time

**Spursfan092120** · 03-30-2012

We already did...you aren't listening. He's not a team player. He's 25% in clutch situations. That's why I'm done with this thread. We beat the out of you with a stick why he's not Top 10..you just don't want to hear it.

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by ElNono

Already debunked. Multiple times.

With facts.

Not top 10

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Spursfan092120

We already did...you aren't listening. He's not a team player. He's 25% in clutch situations. That's why I'm done with this thread. We beat the out of you with a stick why he's not Top 10..you just don't want to hear it.

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

So he isn't a "team player" ive heard from you
so he won those championships by himself?

**ElNono** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by ElNono

Already debunked. Multiple times.

With facts.

Not top 10

**MR.SILVER&BLack** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

So he isn't a "team player" ive heard from you
so he won those championships by himself?

Hes cost the Lakers championships by himself.

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

The only facts here ElNoBrain is this

Kobe Bryant's ranking compared to the top 25 players of all-time

Championships (5) - 3rd, tied with Johnson
Finals MVPs (2) - 5th, tied with Abdul-Jabbar, Bird, Olajuwon, Reed
MVPs (1) - 11th, tied with O'Neal, Robertson, Olajuwon, Erving, Barkley, Robinson, Cousy
All-NBA Teams (13) - 4th, tied with Duncan
All-Defensive Teams (11) - 2nd tied with Abdul-Jabbar, Garnett
All-Star Teams (13) - 3rd, tied with Jordan, Garnett, Malone, West
All-NBA First Teams (9) - 8th, tied with Duncan
Scoring les (2) - 3rd, tied with Abdul-Jabbar, O'Neal
Points (29,306) - 5th
Playoff Points (5,280) - 3rd

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by MR.SILVER&BLack

Hes cost the Lakers championships by himself.

So when he wins he was carried
and win he loses he costed it, it was all his fault

hmmm..

**BRHornet45** · 03-30-2012

Kobe isn't even top 50

he is top 75 at best to those who actually understand the game of basketball. its the ignorant, bandwagon jumping, kool-aid drinking fools who think otherwise.

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by BRHornet45

Kobe isn't even top 50

he is top 75 at best to those who actually understand the game of basketball. its the ignorant, bandwagon jumping, kool-aid drinking fools who think otherwise.

Yeah, yeah, cool story

**ElNono** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

The only facts here ElNoBrain is this

Kobe Bryant's ranking compared to the top 25 players of all-time

Championships (5) - 3rd, tied with Johnson
Finals MVPs (2) - 5th, tied with Abdul-Jabbar, Bird, Olajuwon, Reed
MVPs (1) - 11th, tied with O'Neal, Robertson, Olajuwon, Erving, Barkley, Robinson, Cousy
All-NBA Teams (13) - 4th, tied with Duncan
All-Defensive Teams (11) - 2nd tied with Abdul-Jabbar, Garnett
All-Star Teams (13) - 3rd, tied with Jordan, Garnett, Malone, West
All-NBA First Teams (9) - 8th, tied with Duncan
Scoring les (2) - 3rd, tied with Abdul-Jabbar, O'Neal
Points (29,306) - 5th
Playoff Points (5,280) - 3rd

Nope. Already a stretch to say he has 2 ships, never mind 5.
Couldn't carry a team on his own.
Doesn't make teammates better.
Perennial chucker
Top 5 in most missed shots in NBA history
Member of the team that set a new record for worst NBA Finals score
Cost his team at least 1 le
Perennially bailed out by teammates

All facts too

**MR.SILVER&BLack** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

So when he wins he was carried
and win he loses he costed it, it was all his fault

hmmm..

2004. even when upgrading the PF & PG with malone & gary, the lakers still lose because kobe tried to take the le as the man from Shaq and got curbstomped by the pistons.

same goes as when the lakers win its because of kobe but when they lose its on everyone else when hes the one going 8/26 from the field.

**ElNono** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

So when he wins he was carried
and win he loses he costed it, it was all his fault

hmmm..

Shaq was shooting 55+% that series. Numbers don't lie.

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by ElNono

Nope. Already a stretch to say he has 2 ships, never mind 5.
Couldn't carry a team on his own.
Doesn't make teammates better.
Perennial chucker
Top 5 in most missed shots in NBA history
Member of the team that set a new record for worst NBA Finals score
Cost his team at least 1 le
Perennially bailed out by teammates

All facts too

you're sad you know that. real sad

**Giuseppe** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by ElNono

Shaq was shooting 55+% that series. Numbers don't lie.

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

**ElNono** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

you're sad you know that. real sad

Originally Posted by ElNono

You want to do this again? It always ends bad for you...

How many posts until you give up on the facts and you start with the insults?

90 posts, give or take a couple posts?

**Giuseppe** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by ElNono

Nope. Already a stretch to say he has 2 ships, never mind 5.
Couldn't carry a team on his own.
Doesn't make teammates better.
Perennial chucker
Top 5 in most missed shots in NBA history
Member of the team that set a new record for worst NBA Finals score
Cost his team at least 1 le
Perennially bailed out by teammates

All facts too

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old bag Duncan: 4

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by MR.SILVER&BLack

2004. even when upgrading the PF & PG with malone & gary, the lakers still lose because kobe tried to take the le as the man from Shaq and got curbstomped by the pistons.

same goes as when the lakers win its because of kobe but when they lose its on everyone else when hes the one going 8/26 from the field.

Kobe led the team in scoring and assists in every series except that one. Without him they wouldn't even be there.

Also in game 3, Kobe - 13 shots. Lakers lose by 20(biggest loss)

It wasn't just Kobe shooting, Pistons were clearly better and locked everyone else down, well except Shaq, but that's one guy

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by ElNono

90 posts, give or take a couple posts?

I'm asking for facts and you keep posting garbage. Bring some facts to the table then we can discuss

**Deuce Bigalow** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Heinrich Himmler

ah let's ask bill simmons

http://nbalegacy.blogspot.com/2010/1...amid-2010.html

wow, Shaq got robbed

**ElNono** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

I'm asking for facts and you keep posting garbage. Bring some facts to the table then we can discuss

Originally Posted by ElNono

Nope. Already a stretch to say he has 2 ships, never mind 5.
Couldn't carry a team on his own.
Doesn't make teammates better.
Perennial chucker
Top 5 in most missed shots in NBA history
Member of the team that set a new record for worst NBA Finals score
Cost his team at least 1 le
Perennially bailed out by teammates

All facts

You keep not wanting to hear it. That's your problem, not mine.

Not top 10

**MR.SILVER&BLack** · 03-30-2012

Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow

Kobe led the team in scoring and assists in every series except that one. Without him they wouldn't even be there.

Also in game 3, Kobe - 13 shots. Lakers lose by 20(biggest loss)

It wasn't just Kobe shooting, Pistons were clearly better and locked everyone else down, well except Shaq, but that's one guy

thank you for proving me right that kobe was the main factor for losing the 04 le.

8 seasons later and hes still hasnt learned his lesson. Bynum is clearly the best player on the lakers right now & kobe is chucking a chance at a 6th ring down the ter.