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Yea right
Yea but it's not like there is no contact and NBA guys flopping.
But I hear you.
All in all it's bad for the sports
Yea right
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Bottom line - OKC has won the last 3 games because they were flat out the better team. Period. End of Story. Whine about the Spurs kicking the ball around like middle schoolers if you want, but don't whine about the refs. I hate whiners. I never whine. About anything. Ever. It's lame. If I do happen to see it against OKC at some point, I will not whine. It's against who I am. It's a waste of my time and effort. If you're the better team, you'll win. If the refs are calling something a foul you feel isn't a foul, you'll find a different way to win. If you don't, that's on you.
Can't go back. I'm already here. Appreciate the advice.
Moral wrongness.
When the Thunder play the Heat, you'll be able to see how officiating dictates the way defenses are allowed to guard perimeter players.
Oh, and you need to get use to dodging my takes with a little more stealth.
I hope most spur fans are on that last step. An Internet psychologist could bank on the suicide vibes a lot of newbie posters give on here.
I don't understanding what I'm dodging. We'll see how it plays out when and if we face the Heat. Apparently, they aren't getting enough love from the refs with how Indiana and Boston have given them trouble.
When the Thunder play the Heat, you'll be able to see how officiating dictates the way defenses are allowed to guard perimeter players.
Oh, and you need to get use to dodging my takes with a little more stealth.
You're dodging the examples I gave you that clearly demonstrate the message the OP initially tried to give (OP is a little slow, give him a break).
Miami has generally received good officiating. Against Boston, that's not exactly the case. In fact, the officiating has been downright horrible in that series for both teams, it makes the WCF series look like a 1980's matchup between the Lakers and Celtics.
OP doesnt really care, give me a break
no doubt thunder have been playing better. spurs have been trown out of any kind of rhytm as the result of the officiating. but still, thunder are playing beeter - officiating-assisted.
oh you'll whine when it happens to the thunder, you'll whine
I can recall the foul called on Manu. That was not a good call. I can go back and find several similar calls against OKC. SA got to the foul line 8 more times. Serge Ibaka got a completely bogus foul called on him (maybe 2) in the first 45 seconds that sent him to the bench. I mean really, let's just pick it to death. I'm not denying bad calls. They exist, more so in some games than others. What also kills a teams' momentum and desire to play sound defense is opponents flopping all over the floor and acting. When refs bite on that, it makes it difficult to play proper defense. Why don't you sit there and tell me the refs didn't bite on the ridiculous act put on by some of the Spurs players? So if we want to sit here and pick 2 or 3 "momentum killers" - at least one of which was actually a legit foul on SA, then lets go back and pick the rest of the BS foul calls that SA conned the refs into calling. Or let's not and just say that the best team won, which they did in this particular game. How'd SA win all those les? were they deserving of any of them or did the refs have it all planned out?
spurs were allowed to play it out, unimpeded in all their le runs. certain years when there was a clear cut superstar team in the east, the outcome ofthe western conference was dictated by the league.
the legit foul youre talking about was the most egregious bs call of the series so far, imo
2 or 3 "momentum killers" can decide a game, easily, and thats what the league is banking on.
who gives a about bunk calls in the beginning of the game, those are completely inconsquential, i dont think ibaka fouled parker on that first play of the game. it all comes down to pivotal calls when the game is on the line, and those are the calls that went against the spurs and killed them. Spurs didn't play great the whole game, but they played well enough to win if it werent for the bs calls meant to keep them from victory.
The Thunder drew the most FTs in the League and also nailed the highest percentage of them. The refs calling lots of fouls for the Thunder is nothing new; neither are fouls and FTAs being momentum shifters.
You're not getting it head. I'm not saying the Thunder aren't the better team. They've wanted it more, they're younger, they're hungry, and they're poised.
In reference to the BS calls the Spurs got, that's homecooking. It's a sad fact, but that tends to happen a lot. The only difference with this known fact is te Thunder get homecooking calls in away games too.
Referring to the free throw count can be indicative of officiating, but I think it's better to view the quality of those calls in terms of timing. The Spurs were in the end of various calls in that third quarter when they had momentum. Momentum changing calls* that's the keyword. Bad officiating in potential momentum changing junctures of the game are what will royally up a team's chances to win the game in the short term. Basketball is about a game of runs in the short term, it adds up at the end.
you get it, but you don't
Ok, so a "bad" charging call in the 4Q has an impact on the end of the game, but a "bad" call on an OKC player resulting in that guy (a huge defensive presence) riding the bench most of the first half didnt have any impact on the scoreboard. Makes perfect sense. Also shocking for you to reveal that SA was not assisted in anyway by the refs during their le run - given the fact that the refs are so hugely impactful on the outcomes of games and championships.
Enjoy Game 6.
They were assisted head. Have you seen and evaluated the questionable officiating during the 2007 WCSF matchup between the Spurs and Suns? Many spur fans here will admit to being on the positive receiving end of poor officiating.
Admitting to being on the receiving end of poor officiating is something you're gonna have to come terms with when Miami is plowing that virgin ass.
The Spurs are getting thumped by a better team. Parker playing like garbage is why we are losing. Manu exploded into old Manu form while Parker looks like he wishes he was in Europe for the summer already. Really frustrating actually.
you get it, but you don't
Put the blame where its due, the Spurs who aren't playing anything like Game 2, and give the entire Thunder rotation props for adjusting their game considerably to play a more team ball oriented style, playing hard nosed defense, rebounding, and never quitting. And Scott Brooks, for realizing that confusing Parker was all you had to do to throw this team an amazing curveball.
bro, you are cherrypicking my comments. the only reason the spurs were unimpeded on most of their le runs is because there was no superstar teams in each conference that would have brought huge ratings. Also, stern can't pull this bull every year or it would become transparent.
and as i stated earlier, bull calls are called on both teams to create the illusion of proportionality. the calls that make the big difference are the ones that come in the last 1/3 of the game. momentum killers man, c'mon. no team has momentum in the first 2 minutes of the game. what little effect that has can be made up by the refs through the course of the rest of them game.
all of the factors mentioned in this thread contribute to the thunder advancing. league wanting the thunder advance and refs following suit included
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