1983 vs. 2004 NFL QB class

[symple19]

Did anyone here say he was the GOAT?

EDIT: I just saw clipper nations reply. But disregard him. He is a got.

indeed, he is

[Avante]

Rodgers top 10 and brees not top 25

How in the do you forget Drew Brees....EL DUHO!!!!!

Put him at 10 and move everyone else down.

[symple19]

How in the do you forget Drew Brees....EL DUHO!!!!!

Put him at 10 and move everyone else down.

I think both of those guys, especially Rogers, will end up in the top 10 easily. Still some very good years ahead of both

[gaKNOW!blee]

How in the do you forget Drew Brees....EL DUHO!!!!!

Put him at 10 and move everyone else down.

You can't put a guy who has played four seasons as a top 11 Qb of all time.

Yet.

[DontStopBelieving]

Lol @ everyone here that doesn't think Marino is a top 5 QB.

I understand using the rings argument in the NBA, but the NFL?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Is there even a quintessential Marino playoff moment that you can think of?

[Avante]

You can't put a guy who has played four seasons as a top 11 Qb of all time.

Yet.

He's playing against the greatest defenders ever right now. He's already won a SB and setting records. Yep, top 10!

[DeadlyDynasty]

He's playing against the greatest defenders ever right now. He's already won a SB and setting records. Yep, top 10!

I think Brees will end up being top 10, but there's a flipside to your argument. Back then the DL could headswipe the OL to get to the QB, and CBs like Mel Blount were allowed to murder receivers downfield before they touched the ball. The league has never been more catered to passing offenses than it is now.

[DontStopBelieving]

Miami has been a black hole for QBs for a long, long time

Probably because they hadn't drafted a QB in the first round ( where 99% of franchise qbs are) since Marino. The Brees-Culpepper decision sill haunts me though.. Take Brees and you possibly have a superbowl or two, instead of being the NFL's laughingstock for the last 7 years.

[DontStopBelieving]

62-7

Edit: meant to quote DD. ST mobile sucks

[DeadlyDynasty]

62-7

props

[gaKNOW!blee]

He's playing against the greatest defenders ever right now. He's already won a SB and setting records. Yep, top 10!

Yeah those lion and Vikings secondaries are something to behold...

You're projecting that he's going to continue that success which you can't do when coming up with the greatest quarterbacks ever.

You're saying he'd have a more successful career than Jim Kelly if he retired right now just because of that one superbowl?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I remember that jags game vividly...Marino threw the lone Dolphins TD (to Oronde Gadsden) at the end of the half to cut the deficit to 41-7, afterwhich Gadsden celebrates by doing his "O-G" arm gesture. That was a quintessential "african" move, and Marino had the "Really, dude?" look on his face after that

[Avante]

I think Brees will end up being top 10, but there's a flipside to your argument. Back then the DL could headswipe the OL to get to the QB, and CBs like Mel Blount were allowed to murder receivers downfield before they touched the ball. The league has never been more catered to passing offenses than it is now.

Well aware of all that but the players are so much faster today, things are happening so much quicker.

But...

There is something about.. dominance of era.. and that really is how these..The Greatest...type lists should be done. Obviosly all these guys today are bigger, stronger, faster. So if we do go with...dominance of era...then no Brees isn't on a par with a lot of those old timers. , nobody dominated an era like Otto Graham.

[JoeTait75]

1985 against Cleveland (18-point third-quarter deficit overcome) and 1990 against Kansas City (13-point fourth-quarter deficit overcome.) *

*- Opponents both coached by Marty Schottenheimer

[symple19]

Lol @ everyone here that doesn't think Marino is a top 5 QB.

I understand using the rings argument in the NBA, but the NFL?

bring an argument and not just

And while you're coming up with something intelligent to say, why don't you answer DD's question about Marino in the playoffs?

Why are there so many dip homers?!?!?!?!!??!?!!?!?!?!!?!?

[DontStopBelieving]

bring an argument and not just

And while you're coming up with something intelligent to say, why don't you answer DD's question about Marino in the playoffs?

Why are there so many dip homers?!?!?!?!!??!?!!?!?!?!!?!?

I'd rather not waste my time with someone who thinks bradshaw>marino.

[symple19]

I'd rather not waste my time with someone who thinks bradshaw>marino.

probably because you don't have a coherent argument and fall back on emoticons

solid

[Blake]

Doesn't matter. The 2002 draft class of top pick David Carr, 3rd pick Joey Harrington, and 32nd pick Patrick Ramsey trumps all.

I dare you to find 3 worse qb's drafted in the first round of the same draft.

Hard to find 3 QBs drafted in the first round.

1990 with Jeff George and Andre Ware was close.....

[Clipper Nation]

Lol @ everyone here that doesn't think Marino is a top 5 QB.

I understand using the rings argument in the NBA, but the NFL?

It's not even understandable in the NBA, tbh...

[Clipper Nation]

probably because you don't have a coherent argument and fall back on emoticons

solid

You think Fouts and Bradshaw > Marino the GOAT, so you're in no position to be criticizing others' takes on the matter, tbh....