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    same as ploto in the Romney thread

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    same as ploto in the Romney thread
    Boy your reading comprehension DOES really suck.

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    dood, you're blind to yourself.

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    Trust me. I'm a doctor.


    Fair enough.

    I would simply point to a great deal of what Cosmic Cowboy, and many other conservatives say about things like welfare reform.

    Almost invariably, some anecdote gets trotted out and shown around.

    This is the visual/emotional side of the decision center in full play. The anecdote is meant to invoke this mental picture, and the moral judgement that goes with it.

    I have, more than once, asked for actual data to judge the costs and benefits of en lement programs or similar, and gotten no real response. This is the non-visual dispassionate calculus.

    Go back and re-read the NPR piece. Tell me I am wrong on this.

    The way conservatives almost universally talk about welfare and en lements is all visual/emotionally based, with very little cost/benefit calculus.

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    Fair enough.

    I would simply point to a great deal of what Cosmic Cowboy, and many other conservatives say about things like welfare reform.

    Almost invariably, some anecdote gets trotted out and shown around.

    This is the visual/emotional side of the decision center in full play. The anecdote is meant to invoke this mental picture, and the moral judgement that goes with it.

    I have, more than once, asked for actual data to judge the costs and benefits of en lement programs or similar, and gotten no real response. This is the non-visual dispassionate calculus.

    Go back and re-read the NPR piece. Tell me I am wrong on this.

    The way conservatives almost universally talk about welfare and en lements is all visual/emotionally based, with very little cost/benefit calculus.
    Are you saying that not all people on welfare are blood sucking leaches?

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    Are you saying that not all people on welfare are blood sucking leaches?
    No, just 47% of them.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    No, just 47% of them.
    I'm voting for Romney

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    For the record, I never claimed that. I suspect it's closer to 10%

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    For the record, I never claimed that. I suspect it's closer to 10%
    I agree that Romney was wrong about that 47%.

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    I agree that Romney was wrong about that 47%.
    I will agree that the 47% that don't pay federal income taxes are not all deadbeats, but I can also understand where he was coming from. From and election/vote gathering standpoint, a pledge to lower taxes is pretty irrelevant to someone that already doesn't pay taxes. Couple that with the democratic lies that Romney/Ryan will cut seniors medicare and it even plays as a negative.

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    Fair enough.

    I would simply point to a great deal of what Cosmic Cowboy, and many other conservatives say about things like welfare reform.

    Almost invariably, some anecdote gets trotted out and shown around.

    This is the visual/emotional side of the decision center in full play. The anecdote is meant to invoke this mental picture, and the moral judgement that goes with it.

    I have, more than once, asked for actual data to judge the costs and benefits of en lement programs or similar, and gotten no real response. This is the non-visual dispassionate calculus.

    Go back and re-read the NPR piece. Tell me I am wrong on this.

    The way conservatives almost universally talk about welfare and en lements is all visual/emotionally based, with very little cost/benefit calculus.
    In the absence of hard data, and be fair, the administration is doing a horrible job on the cost/benefit front, anecdotes gain credibility.

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    like that guy has no ass to cover

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    like that guy has no ass to cover

    The only ass that's being covered is Obama's by Ann Curry.


    ANN CURRY:
    Would you call the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi an act of terrorism?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    I have no doubt about that. And-- it's a preplanned act of terrorism directed against American citizens//

    ANN CURRY:
    What is your evidence that it was a preplanned act of terrorism?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    Number one is choosing the date, 11th of September, has all the significance. // If we take the facts about-- the way it was executed, we can see-- that there is enough proof that it is a preplanned act of terrorism.

    ANN CURRY:
    President Obama, is not calling it a terrorist attack. He stopped short of calling it a terrorist attack.


    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    This is how I am calling it as a Libyan, responsible, or a Libyan official. But it is for President Obama, Secretary Clinton to describe the way they-- they-- they like and they feel right. I mean, you have your terminology. And we have our terminology. It's an act of terror.

    ANN CURRY:
    Describe the attack, based on your investigation?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    It's too early for me to give the details, my new details about this. But //it was launched in-- with a high degree of accuracy, which means that the perpetrators must have //some kind of exercise //on how to hit and how to launch-- these-- acts.

    ANN CURRY:
    You're confirming that RPGs were used in the initial attack?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    Attack. And // mortars--

    ANN CURRY:
    Mortars were used in the subsequent attack--

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    --safe house, yes.

    ANN CURRY:
    And do you know now many mortars were used?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    About five I think.

    ANN CURRY:
    And you're saying that these were fired with such accuracy that this could not have been done by someone who did not have experience?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    Experience and knew what he was doing.

    ANN CURRY:
    And this is what is helping convince you that this was a preplanned attack not--

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    Not doubt--

    ANN CURRY:
    --a reaction to a controversial movie?

    LIBYAN PRESIDENT MOHAMED MAGARIAF:
    Yes. I have no doubt about this.


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    no . this should have been a slam dunk for Repub party. Obama and even Hilary ed this one up bigtime.

    but luckily for Hussein, Romney saved the Democratic presidency once again

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    I will agree that the 47% that don't pay federal income taxes are not all deadbeats, but I can also understand where he was coming from. From and election/vote gathering standpoint, a pledge to lower taxes is pretty irrelevant to someone that already doesn't pay taxes.
    Maybe, but a pledge to not increase taxes or remove loopholes is very relevant to a not-insignificant portion of that 47%.

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    The only ass that's being covered is Obama's by Ann Curry.
    Please explain how she was covering Obama's ass with that comment. Or feel free to copy from whatever blog convinced you this was something to be outraged over.

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    Has Obama or anyone from the various departments made a statement as to responsibility?

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    Has Obama or anyone from the various departments made a statement as to responsibility?
    He don't need to. He just lets his best PR Representative do the job. Mitt Romney

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    Please explain how she was covering Obama's ass with that comment. Or feel free to copy from whatever blog convinced you this was something to be outraged over.

    His admin has been pushing the narrative that the attack was because of the movie. He even said it again in his UN speech.

    She seems to be pushing that narrative as well.

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    His admin has been pushing the narrative that the attack was because of the movie. He even said it again in his UN speech.

    She seems to be pushing that narrative as well.
    How is she "pushing" it by attributing that narrative to the Obama Administration?

    "President Obama is not calling it a terrorist attack" is factual statement, is it not? She's basically setting him up to explain, in this interview, why he disagrees. That's how interviews work.

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    How is she "pushing" it by attributing that narrative to the Obama Administration?

    "President Obama is not calling it a terrorist attack" is factual statement, is it not? She's basically setting him up to explain, in this interview, why he disagrees. That's how interviews work.

    Perhaps "pushing" is the wrong word, but she seems very skeptical during the interview and seems baffled that this man would disagree with Obama. The tone of the interview doesn't come across by reading only the transcript. Anyway, it's pretty obvious that this was a terrorist attack on the US. Or, as Obama likes to call it, a bump in the road.

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    Oops...Hillary is going off the Obama script again...

    Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton indicated for the first time on Wednesday that there was an explicit link between the Qaeda franchise in North Africa and the attack at the American diplomatic mission in Libya that killed four Americans, including the ambassador, J. Christopher Stevens.

    She also said American intelligence and law enforcement agencies were working not only with Libya but also with other nations in the region to investigate the attack in Benghazi on Sept. 11. That indicated that the attack’s planning and execution might not have been the local, spontaneous eruption of violence that the administration had initially described.

    Mrs. Clinton made her remarks at a special United Nations meeting on the political and security crisis in the swath of North Africa known as the Maghreb and the Sahel, a crisis that is particularly affecting northern Mali, which has been overrun by Islamic extremists since a military coup divided that country earlier this year.
    full story:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/wo...a.html?_r=1&hp

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