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    So now not liking people when there black or thinking most black people are inarticulate lowlife thugs or that you cannot trust their educational merits is not racist all because you are misunderstood and that you don't like white people.

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    liberals have forced wc to hate blacks, lol

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    I was only responding in kind to the term "crazy white people."

    What about the riots after the Rodney King incident? Do whites ever do such things?

    Are you saying a large population of blacks don't get scare when someone talks about reducing social benefits?

    Talking about more taxes on the productive is scary. Why should those who are productive subsidize those who aren't?

    For me, it's not a black vs. white issue. It's a culture issue for me. The hard facts are simply that more black people fall into that social class that wants the government handouts.
    Hispanics tend to accel rather well in this nation after a generation or two. They have work ethics. Blacks tend not to. Hatred of what happened in times of slavery seems to be the key reason they don't accel. The ones that get past the past, and actually use work ethics to build a better future, without letting their prejudices hold them back, do in fact accel.

    The people to blame for holding blacks back are the likes of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc. They maintain the hatred. The make people believe it is the white man's fault instead of telling people to stand on their own two feet, and ignore what others say about limitation. Limitations are primarily in one's own mind. Sure, there are still some racists out there, but not enough to hold a good man down. Problem is, there are very good black men. Too many are petty and full of hatred, without having the capacity to strive past their own racial bias.
    I'm not sure 70% is the right number, but I agree it's more than half the crimes, and what are they? something like 12% the population? Then they wonder why people are cautious around them.

    Message to all the black leaders.

    Lead your own people into being good citizens before complaining about us white people.
    I say racism will always exist as long as the members of a particular race don't police their own actions.

    The Jacksons and Sharptons of this world need to stop blaming the white man, and blame their own people for presenting themselves so poorly to the rest of us.
    Very true. It's sad that so many black people want to rely on government instead of standing on their own two feet.
    I understand. Since you haven't experienced it, it doesn't exist.

    OK...
    I wont argue with that, but do two wrongs make a right? That's often what affirmative action has done. To meet a quota system, higher qualified candidates would be bumped out of a slot to make racial quotas. I think that's been done away with, but it used to be the commonplace.
    Well, in my experience, far more blacks speak poorly than white. Being in the Army for 11 years, I saw a good mix of people from all over. I say there's a significant difference.

    How can you say someone should get preferred treatment based on race? Would it be right just to higher a black woman to fill a slot just to make a quota? If she's the best applicant, then yes. If she's not the best, it's a disservice to the person who is the best for the slot.
    Here's something you can have fun with.

    I don't like most black people. There are very few who I have met that grew up in a cultural setting I have any respect for. Most I have met are out right thugs, and lack integrity. I could say I don't like black people, but there are some exceptions. If I based all my decisions on statistics, I would stay clear of blacks.

    Now if we go farther...

    I don't like most police, lawyers, and liberals I meet. Several other classes of people I can add if I take a few moments to think about it.

    Why is it I am called a racist when it deals with color, but normal dislikes when with other classifications of people?

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    So now not liking people when there black or thinking most black people are inarticulate lowlife thugs or that you cannot trust their educational merits is not racist all because you are misunderstood and that you don't like white people.

    gmafb
    It's simply amazing how stupid your assumptions can be.

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    liberals have forced wc to hate blacks, lol
    It's simply amazing how stupid your assumptions can be.

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    LOL...

    Does anyone reading post #78 not think that Fuzzy obsesses over me?

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    LOL...

    Does anyone reading post #78 not think that Fuzzy obsesses over me?
    At least he quoted me fairly though. Didn't give full context as to what i was replying to, but there is nothing racist in those words I said.

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    I have a memory. All I did was pull up that post i made the last time you pulled this 'I am not a racist' bull .

    So you said:

    If you like, revise those threads. I will be glad to take you step by step of what I mean. I will be glad to shatter your bigoted assumption of me.
    Go for it, dimwit.

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    I have a memory. All I did was pull up that post i made the last time you pulled this 'I am not a racist' bull .

    So you said:

    If you like, revive those threads. I will be glad to take you step by step of what I mean. I will be glad to shatter your bigoted assumption of me.
    Go for it, dimwit.
    You are the one obsessed. You quoted me correctly. What do you see that others don't?

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    You are the one obsessed. You quoted me correctly. What do you see that others don't?
    Um... no it does sound like WC is making a blanket statement that blacks are lazy and lack integrity without the need of context.
    Yes I believe that's what you believe. After seeing the quotes BY YOU that Fuzzy posted just reinforces that belief.

    You shouldn't even be posting in this thread as racist as you are. Contrary to your belief, I'm a recent college grad with a well paying job. I have NEVER been fired from a job in my life and I started working at a young age.

    And to that dumb ass quote about not seeing white people do things some impoverished black people do, when white people are being oppressed and profiled at the levels of blacks and hispanics, then you have an argument. until then shut up and thank your God that you where born white.

    he can't own up to it. we can't provide him with courage like we did welfare.

    It's more amazing that you are trying to justify and spin those racist quotes.
    That was within a few hours the last time I posted it. I know people ranging from bb to cf all have recognized it as well. You are the only one that is denying it. Even CC laughed at me when I suggested he was defending you. Now why don't you make some racist claims about trill and creepn because they agree with the assessment?

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    And that doesn't prove , especially since it is with people who are all combative with me.

    Show me any factual reference you can say I made that is a racist statement.

    Not racial, but racist.

    Again... Do you have an understanding of the difference between racial and racist? I think you don't.

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    You are the one obsessed. You quoted me correctly. What do you see that others don't?
    So they are not 'others?' They don't count? They are combative with you because they see the same about you as I do. I presented some 'others.' Can you quote one other person that agrees with your assessment that you are not racist? Just one?

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    So they are not 'others?' They don't count? They are combative with you because they see the same about you as I do. I presented some 'others.' Can you quote one other person that agrees with your assessment that you are not racist? Just one?
    I will admit to asking a bad question. Will you admit that all those who respond as you do, dislike me like in a similar manner as you do?

    Could you, and their responses be bias... bigotry... hypocrisy... or something similar that requires substandard ethics?

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    I will admit to asking a bad question. Will you admit that all those who respond as you do, dislike me like in a similar manner as you do?

    Could you, and their responses be bias... bigotry... hypocrisy... or something similar that requires substandard ethics?
    I don't speak for others. I quote what they say. They all said they think you are racist. You're known for it.

    Could you be racist?

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    I don't speak for others. I quote what they say. They all said they think you are racist. You're known for it.

    Could you be racist?
    Well, once again, it is the PC induced misconception of what racism is. Not my fault you all fall for the leftist agenda.

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    And that doesn't prove , especially since it is with people who are all combative with me.

    Show me any factual reference you can say I made that is a racist statement.

    Not racial, but racist.

    Again... Do you have an understanding of the difference between racial and racist? I think you don't.
    if you dislike Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton you must absolutely loathe Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh

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    can't wait to hear your description of a moderate republican. you know....a moderate republican thats running for president with the courage to say anything that might disturb his base.
    For the purpose of this argument, I don't have to give you a description beyond "not the current president." Is that something you're going to try to refute? The rest of your strawman isn't compelling enough to answer.

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    Why would anyone be surprised that Powell endorsed Obama, AGAIN! He goes with flow always has, always will. He claimed he was a Republican because Republicans were in power.
    Now it's the Democrats and he is trying to pick what he hopes to be the winner.

    His endorsement means squat anyhow, to most people. Black or White.

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    Why would anyone be surprised that Powell endorsed Obama, AGAIN! He goes with flow always has, always will. He claimed he was a Republican because Republicans were in power.
    Now it's the Democrats and he is trying to pick what he hopes to be the winner.

    His endorsement means squat anyhow, to most people. Black or White.
    You could have been more succinct if you had the words "political expediency" in your vocabulary

    For your information sir...General Powell is a four-star Army General and the former Joint Chief of Staff of the United States Army. Please don't try (even if in vain) to malign his integrity. Bush lied to him as well as to us so he gave the ill fated UN speech. He knows the kind of leadership the country NEEDS in this hour. He has spoken: OBAMA/BIDEN is good for America – the country is in the right direction.

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    It wasn't the alternative. Do you think Powell's vote made that much of a difference? He came out after the election and endorsed Obama.
    Black Vote Break Down:

    Obama - 95%
    John Kerry - 90%
    Clinton - 88 %

    Obama's historical candidacy notwithstanding this seems pretty consistent to me as long as you're a Dem...

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    Al Gore - 90%

    "It's because he's black " is a pretty idiotic argument considering blacks overwhelmingly have supported Dems over the decades. It's even dumber considering 100% of whites from 1776 to 2008 voted for the white candidate and 100% of blacks voted for the white candidate from whenever-they-got-basic-human-rights-in-the-US to 2008.

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    Al Gore - 90%

    "It's because he's black " is a pretty idiotic argument considering blacks overwhelmingly have supported Dems over the decades. It's even dumber considering 100% of whites from 1776 to 2008 voted for the white candidate and 100% of blacks voted for the white candidate from whenever-they-got-basic-human-rights-in-the-US to 2008.

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    AP-GFK poll shows US racism is alive and increasing.

    http://surveys.ap.org/data/GfK/AP_Ra...e_09182012.pdf


    Then Fox Repug network, always denying Fox and Repugs are dog-whistling racists, eg Sununu this weeks and his entire career, who love to deNIGRAte Barry headlines AP:


    AP Uses Online Poll To Claim Increased Racism In U.S.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/racism-pol...#ixzz2Ab3UZuls



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    Black Vote Break Down:

    Obama - 95%
    John Kerry - 90%
    Clinton - 88 %

    Obama's historical candidacy notwithstanding this seems pretty consistent to me as long as you're a Dem...
    If we were talking about the black vote, you might have a point. We are talking about a life long Republican who served as SoS under one of the most far right conservatives of the past 50 years CRYING TEARS OF JOY over the election of the opposition. If you think that's just a black/DEM connection, you're not nearly as bright as Timvp made you out to be, ES.

    So, like most of your watered down trolls, this one is a huge red herring.

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    "We are talking about a life long Republican who served as SoS under one of the most far right conservatives of the past 50 years"

    and they betrayed and embarrassed him with faulty intelligence, which his team knew was bad but, good soldier, he went with it anyway.

    Powell owes the Repug party not one nanogram of party fidelity, to say nothing of the 100Ks of US military and Iraqi deaths his UN presentation enabled.



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